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Where's the Cabin Air Filter?


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#1 OFFLINE   armoredsaint

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:40 PM

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Checked the manual and even the lack luster index and nothing, they do list a part # for it.

 

Where's it located, behind the glovebox?


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#2 OFFLINE   fotomoto

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:49 PM

The OM is vague but says this on page 152:  "Your cabin air filter is located in the passenger foot well area. "   So, yeah, I'd say the usual place behind the glove box but I haven't looked yet.



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Posted 25 April 2013 - 04:14 PM

There's a panel below the glove box held in place by two screw / push caps over two posts.  When that is removed, the filter is to the left in the center area held in place by a U - clip.  It does look rather simple to change. But from the workshop manual it looks to perhaps be a tight fit (don't know the actual depth of the filter). 



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Posted 25 April 2013 - 06:07 PM

I like that. My Pontiac had the cabin air filter under the panel under the wipers. You had to change it from the outside.



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Posted 25 April 2013 - 06:15 PM

There's a panel below the glove box held in place by two screw / push caps over two posts.  When that is removed, the filter is to the left in the center area held in place by a U - clip.  It does look rather simple to change. But from the workshop manual it looks to perhaps be a tight fit (don't know the actual depth of the filter). 

 

thanks, i checked it out earlier when i was looking for the fuse panel below the glovebox to hardwire my radar detector.



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:28 PM

That bothers me I have to push so much out of the way to get to the filter. The one video on youtube seems to show a few brakets to be removed as well.  @John those were the good days when they wanted you to find it. I replaced my 05 vibe filter many times after finding it under the box. That area in the cmax is a tight fit which might make me have to remove a chair to check clearence there or hope it can be found in a install package. I saw screws to get the box out but theres a tight knob on the right and haven't checked yet if thats the fuel reset

 or just another clip.

 

Any actual ford techs here that can say what it took for them to get into that area. I can remember when gm replaced an air actuator in a place like that they pulled the whole dash to get into it and that was a 40 dollar part and no warrenty. I just got the car recently though its one of the parts I hope to service myself once filter start showing up in Amazons distribution chain (my local walmart doesn't even have a fram replacement for either filter).



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Posted 18 May 2013 - 12:29 AM

Well if I ever have to change the cabin air filter myself it doesn't look like it will be as easy as my previous car a 2005 Saturn Vue Redline.  It was located under the hood at the base of the windshield right on the cowl, where it should be.  Why shove it under the dash where it is so hard to get to?  I'm sure there was a good reason for putting it there?  Like making sure the techs were the only ones to do it and they could charge for it.  Glad I took the extended warranty and have a second one behind the first when it runs out.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 11:48 AM

Yeah - I actually have to agree with those who say under the hood/cowl is a better place, but I suppose under the dash will work, too

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 01:01 PM

Anybody actually buy a replacement for this yet? If so where did you get it and do you have a part number?  Ford's Motorcraft web site does not list a part number for it (unless I am searching wrong).  Frams web site lists it as "NR"?

 

UPDATE:

I got online with Ford, it isn't in the Parts catalog  :drop:   But the part number is "CV6Z-19N619-A"  List Price $24.95


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 05:15 PM

Yeah - I actually have to agree with those who say under the hood/cowl is a better place, but I suppose under the dash will work, too

They moved them inside to keep them from getting wet and to reduce the attraction of rodents :)



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 11:16 PM

Found the cabin air filter while under there messing with the fuses. It's the same setup as the Focus. Here's a (ridiculously long winded) video:

 

And here's the filter on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.co...0?ie=UTF8&psc=1


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 08:12 PM

This is very helpful! Thanks. Don

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Posted 08 December 2013 - 06:25 PM

And here's the filter on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.co...0?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

 

At 18K miles, it was past time to replace the cabin filter in our CMax so I looked around locally and no auto parts stores or walmart had any in stock.  Fram/fabreeze doesn't make one ATM so right now it's motorcraft or nothing thus I went with the above amazon link.  TIP:  if you buy two, you only get charged a dollar more for shipping thus saving $5 if order separately.  Besides, you're going to need another one down the road anyways.  Me, I got two CMax'es so it was a no brainer.

 

Installation was not easy and you really have to contort yourself to get it it.  You'll need a #15 torx bit or screwdriver to remove the one screw and a flash light is essential.   There isn't a ton of free space to remove or install it and I found you have to squish it a lot to make clearance; however, it did pop back into shape once in.   Overall, this is a crappy layout and I don't look forward to doing it again.   I you don't do your own oil changes then you probably won't want to tackle this.  

 

Interior side of filter at 18k miles:

 

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Exterior side:

 

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I won't wait as long next time. 


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Posted 28 January 2014 - 05:12 PM

Changed mine today at 19.5k miles (before watching the video) and it took less than 10 minutes.  My second one will take considerably less time (assuming I can still bend over and then get back up from the awkward position). :)   My CAF was not nearly as dirty as fotomoto's CAF (I'll probably wait longer next time - at least to 20k).

 

I wonder what Ford's shop time is for this? Do they charge in 15 minute TU?  Local Ford parts guy wanted to sell me a CAF for about $25 plus tax compared to less than $20 including shipping online.  When I said I can get one from a Ford dealer online shipped free priority mail for less than $20,  he said he couldn't discount his.  Ordered CAF Friday afternoon and arrived Tuesday around noon.  

 

Also, so one doesn't have to spend 25+ minutes watching the video, one can follow the steps below. You'll need a T20 bit / screwdriver (a T15 will be a loose fit but will work) and a light to see.

 

1) put passenger seat all the way back, remove passenger floor mat (if you have a mat over the carpet it might interfere with procedure) and locate fiber cover between under side of dash and floor held in place by 2 plastic caps on posts projecting down from under dash.

 

2) remove two plastic caps from posts (turn / pull caps from posts), slip post holes in fiber cover over posts, and pull fiber cover out

 

3) locate CAF cover with plastic squeeze tabs to the left near firewall under the passenger dash on the center console vertical surface.and remove screw at bottom of CAF cover with T20 bit

 

4) compress plastic tabs on CAF cover and while compressing pull cover off (pull down and out while compressing tabs)

 

5) grab CAF and pull / wiggle out of slot (note the foam seal is to the engine compartment)

 

6) squeeze new CAF on flexible pleated sides to make rigid  top and bottom come closer together as you insert top then bottom into CAF slot making sure the foam seal is towards the engine (it's not as hard as the video makes it appear) and then push / slide / wiggle remainder of CAF into slot

 

7) reverse steps 1) - 4)


Edited by Plus 3 Golfer, 28 January 2014 - 05:52 PM.

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Posted 28 January 2014 - 05:31 PM

FYI, I just ordered a cabin filter from Amazon; $19.00 with shipping.  The vendor (not Amazon) claims only a few are available.


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Posted 28 January 2014 - 06:22 PM

FYI, I just ordered a cabin filter from Amazon; $19.00 with shipping.  The vendor (not Amazon) claims only a few available.

 

Oh man after seeing this I thought I paid more than that so I went back and checked my order but I paid roughly $16 shipped by buying two ($32 total) from Car Parts Kings.

 

http://www.amazon.co...=A311393O04YIYG



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Posted 28 January 2014 - 06:50 PM

I'm going to let the dealer change this for me since it isn't much fun to get too.  That's why I paid for two extended warranty's



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Posted 28 January 2014 - 08:30 PM

I'm going to let the dealer change this for me since it isn't much fun to get too.  That's why I paid for two extended warranty's

 

Do you mean a maintenance plan?  Extended warranties typically don't cover maintenance items. 



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Posted 28 January 2014 - 08:50 PM



  My CAF was not nearly as dirty as fotomoto's CAF (I'll probably wait longer next time - at least to 20k).

 

We have a lot of plowed, black farm land around here.  On some roads I typically drive, as far as the eye can see on both sides.   Combined that with a near constant gulf breeze to stir it up and then going past the recommended time frame :waiting:  and you can understand why mine was so  :cleaning:

 

Here's a view while riding my bike showing what I mean:

 

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 02:34 PM

With the C-Max filter located under the dash, it leads me to conclude that the filter is downstream from the fan/heater core/evaporator.  On my past cars with the filter located under the hood/cowl panel, the filter was upstream/before the fan/heater core/evaporator.  I kind of like the idea of filtering the air before it get to those components, to keep them clean and dust free, but maybe filtering after those components is better for at delivering air that is dust/mildew/mold free...








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