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LED brake, reverse, license plate etc... lighting upgrade?


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#1 OFFLINE   armoredsaint

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 08:30 PM

Anyone attempt at it so far?

 

Does the car give a lightbulb warning like the bulb is out because of the low voltage nature of LEDs?









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#2 OFFLINE   jmckinley

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:38 PM

Somebody on this forum tried LED tailights and they wouldn't work.  Probably need the special LEDs with built in resistors to simulate incandescent bulbs.



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Posted 27 April 2013 - 08:29 AM

thanks - i know on ebay and amazon they have the resistors with them, on other car forums i think people even had problems with it because they're cheap and over heated iirc?



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Posted 27 April 2013 - 09:28 AM

Seems to be a wide variation in quality of LED bulbs out there.  Pick any supplier and the reviews run from "Burned out in 5 minutes" to "no problems".

 

Some have had problems with polarity on trailers and motor home interior and exterior lights. Since incandescent bulbs don't care about polarity, on some fixtures both wires are the same color and the RV manufacturers don't worry about it.  Then when you put in an LED, you have a 50/50 chance of reverse polarity and the LED won't work and people think they have a bad bulb.

 

I just bought a pair of 3157's for the extra sockets I installed in my taillights for towing the C Max.  Only $8 for two bulbs.  It'll be interesting to see if and or how long they work



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Posted 27 April 2013 - 11:18 AM

Seems to be a wide variation in quality of LED bulbs out there.  Pick any supplier and the reviews run from "Burned out in 5 minutes" to "no problems".

 

Some have had problems with polarity on trailers and motor home interior and exterior lights. Since incandescent bulbs don't care about polarity, on some fixtures both wires are the same color and the RV manufacturers don't worry about it.  Then when you put in an LED, you have a 50/50 chance of reverse polarity and the LED won't work and people think they have a bad bulb.

 

I just bought a pair of 3157's for the extra sockets I installed in my taillights for towing the C Max.  Only $8 for two bulbs.  It'll be interesting to see if and or how long they work

 

I ordered these for $12.99 for 2 BUT VERY bright.

http://www.amazon.co...0_26725410_item

one worked, the other I had to put pressure on it to get to work.

 

Same problem with the sockets I installed for the motor home.

They DID snap into place in the new sockets but not the cmax???

I stuck a toothpick in the problem one, it worked.

BUT I don't think I have a good ground from the back of the cmax to the motor home battery, when using the turn signal the other tail light blinks very dimly. The MH has led's.

Till I have more time I'm using incandescent 3157's.

 

These LED's are the brightest (68 SMD) I've seen.

As opposed to the license plate lights I installed, plus they stay on, but very dim, for a long time after all the other lights go out.



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Posted 27 April 2013 - 01:07 PM

I'm pretty sure weak ground is my problem too.  Each turn signal looks ok, but if running lights are on and you hit the turn signal or brakes, everything dims some.  Ground wire is apparently adequate for one or two filaments at a time, but not three or four.  LEDs should cure the problem due to their lower current draw. 

 

Guess I should have run a bigger ground wire.  Live and learn, I guess.



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Posted 27 April 2013 - 10:44 PM

I'm pretty sure weak ground is my problem too.  Each turn signal looks ok, but if running lights are on and you hit the turn signal or brakes, everything dims some.  Ground wire is apparently adequate for one or two filaments at a time, but not three or four.  LEDs should cure the problem due to their lower current draw. 

 

Guess I should have run a bigger ground wire.  Live and learn, I guess.

 

Reading your remarks dinged my bell :worship: ding ding ding.

 

I grounded the new sockets per the etrailer.com video with a screw into the cmax fender.

THIS is not a proper ground for these leds, the cmax is a POOR ground as far as these leds are concerned.

This should be a closed circuit from the MH back to the MH and never touch the cmax ground.

The ground wire from the socket should connect to the white wire from the MH and not go to "ground" on the car... I hope... and will check ASAP

uuhh the next time we're at the MH.

 

THANKS



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Posted 28 April 2013 - 08:04 AM

I was afraid of weird electrical interactions between the Motorhome and the C Max so I made sure my tail light wiring was completely separate including the ground wire. Problem is the ground wire is the same size as the other three wires but has to carry three times the current so is a bit undersized when all lights are on.  Hopefully the LEDs will solve the problem without me having to string a new ground wire.

 

For the same reason, I did not run a charge wire to the C Max battery to keep it charged and suffered dead car battery every day I towed.  Thanks to another forum member, I now use the manual Shift Brake Interlock override so I can get it into neutral without leaving the car in the accessory position which leaves way too many electrical gizmos running.



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Posted 28 April 2013 - 09:52 AM

how is this related to towing a trailer? ;)



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Posted 28 April 2013 - 06:58 PM

Does the WARNING on pg 243 of the owners manual apply to the Hybrid C-Max?



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Posted 28 April 2013 - 08:10 PM

Does the WARNING on pg 243 of the owners manual apply to the Hybrid C-Max?

Absolutely.  Although I think folks are talking about towing the C-Max behind a motor home, not towing something with the C-Max.



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Posted 28 April 2013 - 08:56 PM

so it seems like there's no good solution in LEDs for us currently? 



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Posted 29 April 2013 - 11:19 PM

I installed LED license plate lights with no problems. W5W / 194 bulbs. Not canbus monitored, so any bulb will work as long as it is a "wedge style" bulb.



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Posted 29 April 2013 - 11:24 PM

so it seems like there's no good solution in LEDs for us currently? 

Put me on the list for this one.  I still can't believe that they didn't put LEDs on the first model release.



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Posted 30 April 2013 - 06:49 PM

Put me on the list for this one.  I still can't believe that they didn't put LEDs on the first model release.

 

 

would it be weird that i was willing to forego heated leather seats for LED stop/turn lights - it's just something about LEDs that I like on cars a lot, maybe it's that instant-on effect.



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Posted 09 June 2013 - 11:23 PM

Any new update on solutions to adding LEDs? Thinking of adding LEDs to all the rear lights, but have bad memories of dealing with flickering lights after car turns off on last car.

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 06:52 AM

Any new update on solutions to adding LEDs? Thinking of adding LEDs to all the rear lights, but have bad memories of dealing with flickering lights after car turns off on last car.

 

 

Unfortunately none so far, I haven't bothered with it. I did the LED upgrades to the license plate lights and puddle lights.

 

I was looking at the new fusions and they even have the projector lamps, why can't the C-Max have it originally?



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Posted 11 June 2013 - 12:30 AM

fusion is a more expensive car and higher luxury status car (or so they want you to believe) even though the cmax is a $30k+ car.

they usually put the LED front and rear lights on the top of the line car in the company.



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 10:15 AM

I put LED lights above the license plate and in the rear cargo area. I haven't any SERIOUS problems.

I did have one problem, but I don't consider it serious...

First, though, in the cargo area, to be clear, absolutely no problems at all, and the illumination back there looks fantastic now. If nothing else, I absolutely suggest you do this.

Alright, moving on, the license plate lights, they look great, and haven't produced any error message or errant behavior, BUT, it is a little weird how they remain on, even after you've turned off the car. They're suuuuper dim, but they're still on, as if there's residual electricity in the line or something, which wouldn't be enough to illuminate a traditional light bulb, but is just enough to light up an LED, albeit just barely. They will completely turn off eventually, but it takes several minutes (I don't know exactly how many). I'm not worried; they're not wasting any more electricity than was already flowing through the wires anyway; you can just see that electricity's presence now, is all. And, as I said, I really can't emphasize this point enough, just SO, SO barely.

When the car is actually on, and the license plate lights should actually be illuminated, they look beautiful. I, too, really prefer LEDs, and wish the car had been outfitted completely with them from the factory. I'm surprised it wasn't, but oh well.


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Posted 14 July 2013 - 04:48 AM

Just wondering, so the only bulbs that need to be canbus are the rear turn signal lights???






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