valkraider Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Ford to drop Microsoft and switch to Blackberry Of course only after I suffered through the miserable Microsoft Auto version... For what it is worth - QNX in our VWAG vehicles works *flawlessly*. obob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaPieR Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Wonder what this means for current MFT/SYNC vehicles that are powered by Microsoft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obob Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) Wonder what this means for current MFT/SYNC vehicles that are powered by Microsoft. I am not getting my hope up. ( Not even a little bit. ) But since I want American auto manufactures to do well, I am glad they are doing it. Edited February 24, 2014 by obob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowStorm Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Hurray! I was rather horrified when I first heard that Ford was going to put MS Windows in cars. QNX has been around a long time and is a true "real-time" operating system. This change is a real step forward IMHO. Sure hope present systems can be upgraded. obob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdefny Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 They probably could port it to whatever they have in the field, but there is probably not sufficient reason to justify the expense. We will probably have to wait for our next Ford. The best we can reasonably hope for is another reliability update if it is even necessary. Sync is wonky, but it basically gets the job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wab Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 YEP we are now the happy owners of “Orphaned software” Maybe we’ll get another check. Jus-A-CMax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaDadMiami Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 For what it is worth - QNX in our VWAG vehicles works *flawlessly*.Does it control and do all of the things that MFT does? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkraider Posted February 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Does it control and do all of the things that MFT does?It depends on the vehicle and what it's equipped with. But MFT doesn't really do all that much... Our UConnect in our 2008 Dodge did more than our 2013 MFT and did so more reliably (albeit a little less flashily). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtnMarty Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 But...here's a big but...or maybe a big butt...They are going with Blackberry. Yes, that disappearing company, not say Apple. Oh, it could get worse... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wb8nbs Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Maybe QNX will allow a real WiFi password. jdbob and valkraider 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAcreeks Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 QNX in Volkswagen? I looked at Passat diesel before buying the C-Max and was not impressed with console look and feel. However I bet QNX can tune radio stations and display the actual frequency instead of 404, or whatever HTTP(?) error Sync displays. My greatest disappointment with C-Max infotainment is the lack of a progress bar on songs, as in iTunes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaDadMiami Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 I wonder how long all of this will take. My last car was ten years old when I bought the C-MAX, but that was a record breaker for me. I see myself holding this C-MAX for about five years, or until there is something so new and so much better that it would compel me to do the deed. So, if it actually ends out taking three to five years to see it in vehicles, I am not going to sweat it. Even if it takes almost that long, that means that there will be support for our version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdefny Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 There will be support for our version, but that doesn't mean that they will be updating it on a regular basis or at all. I wouldn't mind seeing one more major update to make things work that much more reliably, but perhaps we have already seen the pinnacle of what our Sync can do. It basically does what they said it would do without crashing every time we use it. That is all they absolutely owe us and they may feel that is enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaPieR Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 But...here's a big but...or maybe a big butt...They are going with Blackberry. Yes, that disappearing company, not say Apple. Oh, it could get worse... Blackberry is not doing well but QNX is a subsidiary under RIM. QNX is actually an industry leader in embedded operating systems. Audi, BMW, VW, Chrysler/Dodge are among the manufacturers that use QNX. This could be a good thing for Ford. I do hope that they keep ahead with other developments when they mature (Apple and Android) but right now they are looking for stability which Microsoft has struggled to provide in MFT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaPieR Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Just read this article that was posted on CR. Don't usually read often from CR but a tidbit from their article is interesting. According to the Detroit News, a Ford representative said that owners would be able to download the new operating system to their existing cars this year or next. Hopefully the change in operating systems will eliminate the system crashes we experienced in our Ford Edge and Ford Flex and wipe out the other remaining bugs. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2014/02/ford-pairs-with-blackberry/index.htm I hope that part about downloading the new OS for MFT is true and I hope it doesn't apply to just the Edge and Flex. ScubaDadMiami 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaDadMiami Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Just read this article that was posted on CR. Don't usually read often from CR but a tidbit from their article is interesting. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2014/02/ford-pairs-with-blackberry/index.htm I hope that part about downloading the new OS for MFT is true and I hope it doesn't apply to just the Edge and Flex.It sure sounds like that's what it means. The article is unclear about the context of the Edge and Flex. However, reading the entire (but short) article, I am guessing that the writer is referencing a prior test of Edge and Flex with MFT, not that the updates to the new OS will only be available on those two vehicles. The article's title and everything leading up to the Edge and Flex reference are not vehicle specific. Everything works fine in my C-MAX, but it sure would be great to be able to get all OS and other updates and upgrades possible. I'm on board! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wab Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) I'm going out on a limb and say NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, at least NOT the way the article says. "a Ford representative said that owners would be able to :lol:download the new operating system" Download a WHOLE new OS???? if it happens then MS :lol2: will REALLY look bad! Edited February 27, 2014 by wab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowStorm Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 The car world is about to change - phones in cars, as (mis)used today, will be as old-school as points and condensers - no longer needed.Have a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wY9AzUfSdKU Ford's switch to QNX is goooood news. Its not just about eliminating annoyances and "aliens"! Future automotive communications, infotainment and driver assistance technology needs the best in performance, reliability and security. Have a look at what this OS runs now: http://www.qnx.org.uk/company/30ways/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salsaguy Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Was happy to hear this the other day on the news. Audi cars have great infotainment systems. Wish I could afford an A6 or S5 ;)It would be great if current vehicles could be updated. If not it might put off the " soon to be buyers" from getting a new CMax right now (like my wife and I are waiting). Any idea when this will take effect and when is the cut-in date for the vehicles they add it to? Hope we don't have to wait for the 2015 CMax to get this. Would hate to be left hanging with no support on the ousted Sync system. It would be like "nice knowing you ...you are on your own now....good luck". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salsaguy Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) Super cool vid showing capability of Q N X software in an Audi: Edited March 1, 2014 by salsaguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaPieR Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Super cool vid showing capability of Q N X software in an Audi: That's pretty neat that they can display the navigation right into the driver information cluster. Besides the stability Ford needs to add more computing power to make the system more responsive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptjones Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 IMHO I think the MyTouch works fine for me, I guess I don't need that much, It does the job for me. :) Paul brbevil and salsaguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotPotato Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Hyundai also runs Blackberry's QNX OS. My girlfriend's Veloster's infotainment system isn't perfect, but certainly works more reliably my C-Max's Microsoft-based system does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtnMarty Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Well not so fast about BB and QNX. Now we're hearing talk of Apple CarPlay. Ford is listed as one of the auto manufacturers to be using this system. Interesting, no? Has Ford said anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaDadMiami Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 All of this back and forth about the OS sounds consistent with the article that was posted that said that Ford was checking out its future options. It sounds like no decision has been made, and the reason why everyone is suddenly hearing about all of this is because Ford is doing as it said, contacting various possible vendors for OS and apps to see what they could possibly do in MFT. So, I'd say to expect more articles like this as the various vendors report in. salsaguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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