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Post Your Life Time MPG's, Total Mi., EV mi., Regen mi. and Brake Score

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#1 OFFLINE   ptjones

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 08:43 AM

Post Your Life Time MPG's, Total Miles, EV miles, Regen miles and Brake Score. Should be able to graph info and come up with some useful information.

 

Here are my two Data points:

 

Brake = Brake Score

EV = EV miles

Regen = Regen miles

Total = Total miles

 

PT Jones      LT MPG 48.8, Brake: 98%, EV: 77,881.  Regen:   8018  Total:  154,706   EV%: 50.3% , City%: 19%

Used CMAX     LT MPG 37.3, Brake: 92%, EV:   2504.7  Regen:  335.  Total:  6,782.2,  EV%: 37.0%,  City%: ??

DaveofDurham  LT MPG 43.2, Brake: 92%, EV: 12,950,   Regen: 2,356  Total: 30,952     EV%  41.8%

Plus 3 Golfer LT MPG 41.2,        92%,      9,389.6           828.5       19,264          48.7%

Marc Smith    LT MPG 44.8, Brake: 95%  EV:  11,652    Regen:  1534 Total: 24,000     EV%  48.5%     City 46%

homestead     LT MPG 45.396%           EV   5,664             582         10,584     EV%  53.5%

kostby        LT MPG 40.8         98%        752.2            87.1         1816.9         41.4%    City 43%

C-MaxSea      LT MPG 48.2  Brake: 98%  EV:   4516    Regen:   491          13,000     EV%  55.7%    City 30%

TheXym        LT MPG 40.8         93%      11,255.1  Regen: 1,518.1 Total: 22,165         50.8%

marshtex2     LT MPG 45.2         94%  EV:   6574             595          12,452    EV%  52.8%

HannahWCU     LT MPG 47           97%       19,506.7        1,831.3        43,339.1  EV%  45%      City 29%

MichaelM      LT MPG 41.4         95%       15,483.5        1,018.9         47,512.9      32.6%

cgul          LT MPG 48.9         95%        1,5014.4       1,130.2         24,828.2 EV%  60.4%

mtcmax        LT MPG 37.6         95%        2,620.5  Regen:  191.6          7,351   EV%  35%                                               Jus-A-Cmax    LT MPG 51.7         96%       25,540.9          2847          49,700        56%      City  64%

wnuk          LT MPG 49.5         97%    EV: 5850              855.5          9819.7  EV% 59.6%

SnowStrom       LT MPG  48.5             95%            50398.5                 1243               120269.5           41.9%

HPRifleman       LT MPG 46.4  BKS    99%    EV:  13,591       Regen:   580        Total: 33,440    EV% 40.6%

fbov                   LT mpg 40.7              96%           16,065.2                  512.2               38398.8           41.8%  

Tom                   LT mpg 40.8  BKS     96%    EV  8,852         Regen:    4736               16,997             52%

Recumpence     LT MPG 50.2             96%   EV   58592                       6700.6            96499.8            61%           City 80%

 Scotwood         LT MPG 48.3                                                                                       30,121.6 mi.

78Pinto              LT MPG 42.4                                                                             Total: 49,000mi.                            City 20%

I will add to my list any posted numbers :)

 

Paul


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#2 OFFLINE   DaveofDurham

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 09:59 AM

Paul -

 

Are you sure that you have included all our your regen miles?  When I had update 13B07 done in July 2013, my lifetime regen miles counter got reset from 825 regen miles back to 0. 

 

Right now I have 30952 total miles, 92% lifetime brake score and 1531 (on the counter now) + 825 (on the counter before 13B07) = 2356 lifetime regen miles.

 

You have 65,000+ total miles, 98% brake score and only 2038.1 regen miles.  You have posted about several very long highway trips, but I would expect that you would have more regen miles over 65,000+ miles than I have over 30,000+ miles.

 

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 10:28 AM

Full set of stats for my car

 

Lifetime MPG 43.2,  Brake Score 92%,  EV miles 12,950,  Regen miles 2,356  and  total miles 30,952   EV% of total mi. 41.8%

 

[Regen % of total miles 7.6% and Regen % of total EV miles 18.2%]



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Posted 17 July 2014 - 12:39 PM

Paul -

 

Are you sure that you have included all our your regen miles?  When I had update 13B07 done in July 2013, my lifetime regen miles counter got reset from 825 regen miles back to 0. 

 

Right now I have 30952 total miles, 92% lifetime brake score and 1531 (on the counter now) + 825 (on the counter before 13B07) = 2356 lifetime regen miles.

 

You have 65,000+ total miles, 98% brake score and only 2038.1 regen miles.  You have posted about several very long highway trips, but I would expect that you would have more regen miles over 65,000+ miles than I have over 30,000+ miles.

 

Dave

You are right, unfortunately I didn't get a LifeTime pic at that time they did the update so I guessed with my last LT pic in Feb 2013 with 525mi Regen and Sept. 1, 2013  117.6mi Regen mi. so I think I had 875mi. which added to my current rounded off to 2900mi. :)  FORD hasn't made it easy to figure out with 2014 don't even have LifeTime. :drop: At least we have a start.

 

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 01:14 PM

Paul, I recall asking you about your regen miles in another thread.  Also, if you want to do any meaningful analysis one needs to make sure the total mileage is at the mileage from the PCM update not the odometer total mileage or last manual reset of the lifetime summary whichever is later.  My lifetime summary was reset at the PCM update in July 29, 2013 with 8108 miles on the car (shown on the Dealer Service Order).  Currently, I have 27372 miles on the car.  So my data is as follows from July 29, 2013: 

 

Total Miles since PCM udpate: 19,264

EV Miles: 9,389.6

EV% of Total: 48.7%

Regen Miles: 828.5

MPG: 41.2

Brake Score: 92

 

My thoughts on trying to compare / analyze the data:

 

1) one significant piece of data not available is average speed (preferably average moving speed).

 

2) climatic conditions will affect the data, one may want to separate the data by geographic region as a start

 

3) regen miles is supposedly all regenerative energy including braking and coasting somehow converted to miles.  Brake Score supposedly is the % of actual energy captured over the available energy that could be captured presumably by braking to a complete stop.   Given the relatively small % of regen miles vs total miles and that braking regen is a part of the regen miles, I would expect a few tents of a mpg difference for brake scores between say 86 - 98 vs my actual FE with a brake score of 92. 

 

4) there are other data like driving style, mods, terrain and average distance per trip and so forth that will affect results.


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Posted 17 July 2014 - 01:35 PM

Paul, I recall asking you about your regen miles in another thread.  Also, if you want to do any meaningful analysis one needs to make sure the total mileage is at the mileage from the PCM update not the odometer total mileage.  My lifetime summary was reset at the PCM update in July 29, 2013 with 8108 miles on the car (shown on the Dealer Service Order).  Currently, I have 27372 miles on the car.  So my data is as follows from July 29, 2013: 

 

Total Miles since PCM udpate: 19,264

EV Miles: 9,389.6

EV% of Total: 48.7%

Regen Miles: 828.5

MPG: 41.2

Brake Score: 92

 

My thoughts on trying to compare / analyze the data:

 

1) one significant piece of data not available is average speed (preferably average moving speed).

 

2) climatic conditions will affect the data, one may want to separate the data by geographic region as a start

 

3) if regen miles is supposedly the percent of available energy that could be captured converted somehow to miles, 

 

4) there are other data like driving style, mods, terrain and average distance per trip and so forth that will affect results.

You have some good  information there.  I checked my numbers and the only thing reset was Regen miles. Apparently the Technician had options on what to reset.Regen only appears to have a significant effect on mileage if you are in stop and go or city driving all the time. I think there is a correlation between speed and EV miles and like you said weather can have a drastic effect on MPG's. You could look at your Mileage for each season off of Fuelly. Thanks for the help. :) 

 

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 02:43 PM

I was just thinking that your Fuelly City/Hwy percentage could also factor in the numbers. Mine are 82% HWY/18%City :)

 

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 03:01 PM

You have some good  information there.  I checked my numbers and the only thing reset was Regen miles. Apparently the Technician had options on what to reset.Regen only appears to have a significant effect on mileage if you are in stop and go or city driving all the time. I think there is a correlation between speed and EV miles and like you said weather can have a drastic effect on MPG's. You could look at your Mileage for each season off of Fuelly. Thanks for the help. :)

 

Paul 

The technician didn't choose, the software programming sent by Ford engineers chose what to reset. Because of this fact I reset my Lifetime at the time of doing the PCM update. I'm curious to see what you find out for data for this!


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 05:11 PM

I was hoping there would be more participation so we good get some useful info about our CMAX's.  I guess now our cars are only EPA rated at 43city, 37Hwy and 40mpg combined and most members are doing that so MPG's aren't that important. So as long as FORD doesn't find out that I'm averaging 52mpg :shift:  I should still get my check. LOL :lol: :lol2:

 

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 05:09 PM

I will post mine after I'm in the car again, but ballpark is 40.8 mpg (winter in NE PA was not kind, my wife does NOT drive it like a hybrid when I'm not in the car). Almost 23,000 miles, of which almost 12,000 are EV. I try to hypermile when I can, but my work commute is about 2 miles one way which doesn't help.

Also, the 2nd day I got it last July, we followed an ambulance for about 130 miles at almost 85 mph due to an emergency with a family member, which I'm sure didn't help the break in. (She is fine now).

It was about 42,3 before the winter, since it started warming up in April it's come up from 37.6. My last tank was 46.7, would have been higher, but my wife took it on a trip with the kids.

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 07:30 PM

I will post mine after I'm in the car again, but ballpark is 40.8 mpg (winter in NE PA was not kind, my wife does NOT drive it like a hybrid when I'm not in the car). Almost 23,000 miles, of which almost 12,000 are EV. I try to hypermile when I can, but my work commute is about 2 miles one way which doesn't help.

Also, the 2nd day I got it last July, we followed an ambulance for about 130 miles at almost 85 mph due to an emergency with a family member, which I'm sure didn't help the break in. (She is fine now).

It was about 42,3 before the winter, since it started warming up in April it's come up from 37.6. My last tank was 46.7, would have been higher, but my wife took it on a trip with the kids.

I will add them to my when you get all the numbers, Thanks.    Did you install Grill Covers and Oil Pan heater? It's worth 4-5mpg in winter and 2mpg during the summer. :)

 

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 10:47 PM

I have not done any mods yet.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 07:37 AM

I have not done any mods yet.

Then MPG's will only get better when you do. :)

 

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:31 AM

well not that this will mena much...  I reset everything whenI bought the car @ 11,900 miles...  currently have 14467 miles.  so 2567 miles driven by me...

 

my lifetime now shows

 

1362 EV miles

238 regen

44.5 mpg

93% brake



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Posted 21 July 2014 - 10:23 AM

well not that this will mena much...  I reset everything whenI bought the car @ 11,900 miles...  currently have 14467 miles.  so 2567 miles driven by me...

 

my lifetime now shows

 

1362 EV miles

238 regen

44.5 mpg

93% brake

Thanks Marc, every Post is another Data Point. You should be ashamed of yourself for beating  EPA. CR and Fuelly averages, what were you thinking? LOL :happy feet: :lol: :lol2: :shift:  Great Job!

 

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 10:33 AM

if I remember correctly  it was showing lifetime mpg of  40 or 41....



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Posted 21 July 2014 - 12:27 PM

Here is mine.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 01:20 PM

Thanks to a horrid Michigan winter, we're at only 40.1 MPG lifetime.

 

We did just return from a 400 mile trip and ended up with 46.2 mpg. About 300 of those miles were at about 72mph on the freeway with little stop and go traffic. I thought that was pretty darn good.


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Posted 21 July 2014 - 02:57 PM

Here is mine.

attachicon.giflifetime.png

Thanks for help, Good Job!

 

Thanks to a horrid Michigan winter, we're at only 40.1 MPG lifetime.

 

We did just return from a 400 mile trip and ended up with 46.2 mpg. About 300 of those miles were at about 72mph on the freeway with little stop and go traffic. I thought that was pretty darn good.

Post a Pic of your Life Time. :)

 

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 05:27 PM

I really hesitate to post this.

Makes it seem like our C-MAX really DOES get just 40mpg average, and that's just not true.

 

Lifetime fuel use is only 40.8 mpg

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Historical note: The car showed a lifetime fuel use of 19.7 when we purchased it with 133 miles on it in late March.

The dealer is just a few blocks from the John Force drag racing teams headquarters in Brownsburg, IN.  I think ours might have been a test mule  ;)


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