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#1 OFFLINE   A2gemini

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 02:44 PM

Hi all,

I am a new C-Max owner. (Platinum white)

We have the push button start.

The dealer tried to install the keypad and failed. The dealer ordered the correct version (there is one for push button start and one for key start) but was not able to program it.

I found directions for the key start programing.

Has anyone been successful programing the keyless entry and keypad.

If so, what is the trick?

Thanks

A2gemini

 

 









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#2 OFFLINE   Adrian_L

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 03:05 PM

Sorry that makes no sense.  The dealer couldn't program your FOB and handed it to you saying "Best of luck!  Google's a great resource"?  You did say, 'new car' right?

 

I think the trick is to march into the dealership manager's office.


Edited by Adrian_L, 09 September 2014 - 03:11 PM.


#3 OFFLINE   A2gemini

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 09:18 AM

Yes, it is a new car.

It is not as bad as it sounds - The dealer tried to program it and when they failed, they took the keypad back and are refunding my $$. They plan to keep looking and will contact me when they have the information and re-order the part.

 

There is a lot of chatter on not being able to program these with the push button start - but the part is available. I am just hoping someone has the answer.

I called Ford Customer Service and the representative tried to find directions and also could not find anything. He promises to find the answer and get back to me. i am confident that he will do so.

In the meantime, I am hoping someone has been successful and can enlighten me.

 

Here is the information from the Ford Accessories page

Keyless Entry Keypad

Part No: 7L2Z-14A626-BA

Conveniently unlock your vehicle without your key or keyless entry remote. No wiring necessary programmable, backlit keypad with black, textured finish tunes to the same frequency as your transmitter. No-drill installation.  " - See more at: http://accessories.f...h.hV0GHYyw.dpuf

Vehicle Notes: For vehicles equipped with factory remote keyless entry. C-MAX: For Non-PEPS vehicles only. Focus: Not for use with BEV. For Non-PEPS vehicles only. Not For Use With 2014 Focus ST. - See more at: http://accessories.f...h.hV0GHYyw.dpuf



#4 OFFLINE   fotomoto

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 10:04 AM

Just curious, why would you want or need a keypad if the car all ready has keyless entry?


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#5 OFFLINE   Adrian_L

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 12:49 PM

Sorry, I thought you were referring to the FOB by the word "keypad".   I would think that the keyless entry would render the door keypad unneccessary.

 


 



#6 OFFLINE   A2gemini

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 04:03 AM

I had this om my escape. My escape also had the push button start but the keypad was factory installed.

We are active and don't like to take the key fob when we bicycle XC ski or when I run.
Using the keypad, you can lock the key fob inside the car by pressing the last 2 buttons.
Use the 5 digit code to get into the car.

Keys have a habit of defying gravity during aerobic sports. They crawl out of pockets, wiggle out of water packs, etc.
i lost a key years ago running and had to rescue some very cold skiers in an isolated area who lost their key while skiing.

So, I want this for safety reasons.

I am hoping that someone on the forum has been successful. Otherwise, hopefully Ford customer service will come through.

Thanks!
A2gemini
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#7 OFFLINE   fotomoto

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 08:34 AM

Ahh, so the keypad will allow locking the fob in the car.  Got ya'.

 

Others have done this:  remove battery from keyfob* and leave in car, remove metal key from fob, lock car via interior door switch, and use metal key for access upon return.   Lots of active wear have solutions for securing a key and I've use a safety pin for extra insurance.   

 

Good luck!



#8 OFFLINE   A2gemini

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 07:07 PM

Thanks Fotomoto

It is not looking good. Ford Customer Service says it won't work with the C-Max push button start despite what I was told by the dealer. It doesn't make sense as they have two different models - one for a key entry and one for keyless entry....

Guess, I go back to key on a hockey skate shoe string in a neon color.... so I don't lose it on the trails.

I haven't totally given up and hope to figure it out downstream.

A2gemini



#9 OFFLINE   Adrian_L

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 11:22 PM

When we stayed at a hotel in Hawaii once there was a small metal box next to the suite door about the size of a pack of smokes.  It had a combination lock and when opened, the hotel door key was inside.  The hotel gave you the combination in an email in case you showed up when the front desk was closed.

 

I have no idea where you buy these things (ebay? Amazon?) but it could be easily mounted under the vehicle.

 

I lost a Volvo key while jogging once.  It wasn't a happy day.

 

Adrian



#10 OFFLINE   A2gemini

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 02:18 PM

Thanks for the ideas. After surfing for a long time, I was able to find embedded documentation with an itty bitty number 1/2 next to it. Says it won't work if you have push button start. Wish the dealer knew this information as it would have saved me hours of hunting. Also, the accessory website needs to have this information included in easy to read text (it is not even on the accessory page)

 

I hope Mark Fields reads the forum or has someone scanning.

 

I do consider this a safety issue for the CMax that could be easily fixed.

 

if you lose your key while swimming, running, xc skiing etc and can't get back in the car - you can become hypothermic quite easily. Let's hope Ford figures out a way to make this an option.

Adrian has lost his while running. I rescued a pair of cross country skiers who lost their key and it was very cold outside. Unless you are active, you don't realize how important this feature is on a car. 

 

I seriously might have considered a different vehicle if I had known that it was incompatible, although I love my CMax other than this issue (and no panic alarm - see other post from another CMax owner)

 

Thanks for listening to my concerns.








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