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#1 OFFLINE   FreeMiles

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 11:23 AM

      I was doing some research and found that the C-Max is based on the Focus platform. In my experience just about every car that shares a platform also shares suspension components i.e. Sway bars, shocks, springs, etc... Does anyone know how our factory equipped suspension compares the the Focus' performance suspension (Not the ST but the upgraded suspension package for the non-ST Focus). I'm sure that our rear springs are much stiffer then The Focus' because of our 300lb battery in the rear. But all the other components, namely the sway bars and front suspension may be much better for handling on our NRGs. 

 

(Recently posted to Energi Forum but it seems the hybrid forum is more active.)

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#2 OFFLINE   ptjones

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 11:31 AM

In previous Post's It has been said the CMAX Hybrid and Energi are Identical for suspension components. Don't know about the Focus. :) 

 

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 04:17 PM

Interesting. I figured Ford would stiffen the 300lb heavier rear end of the Energi. Either way I'm curious to know if we could swap ours for the Focus'. Or maybe we already have the "Sportier" suspension to compensate for the added weight over the Focus.

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 08:11 PM

Ford in the UK (re)sells Eibach suspension lowering kits specifically for the gas and diesel C-MAX:

http://www.ford-acce.../GB/en/6/39/575



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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:37 AM

Does anyone have any expirence lowering the US C-Max? I'm not sure sure if the UK spec lowering springs would work. And if they did, if they're the correct spring rate for the US version.



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Posted 18 September 2014 - 10:49 AM

I like that you are thinking about trying this, I wish I could help with some information. Personally, I wish there were a set of premium coilovers for the Focus that would also fit the C-Max. I had a set of Ohlins on my previous car and they were the single best mod I've ever had on a car.



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Posted 22 September 2014 - 07:54 AM

I hadn't found the car all that bad handling, and it sits pretty low as it is.... if anything the LRR tires are really holding it back. 


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Posted 12 December 2014 - 11:06 AM

I hadn't found the car all that bad handling, and it sits pretty low as it is.... if anything the LRR tires are really holding it back. 

 

I agree with this, but now having the opportunity to drive both back to back (I now own a 2014 Ford Focus Electric), The focus handles MUCH better.  I think this is mostly due to the focus being lower overall and the driver sitting much lower.  I can comfortably take corners at a much higher speed in the focus than in the CMax.

 

Of course both cars could have the same cornering ability, but the higher stance in the CMax alerts my internal "oh CRAP" meter much sooner than in the focus. :shift:


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#9 OFFLINE   scottwood2

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Posted 12 December 2014 - 12:42 PM

I think the wheel wells are pretty tight to the tires so I am not sure how much you could drop it?  I would love to see one dropped. 



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Posted 20 December 2014 - 03:22 PM

Ford cars in general tend to have overly soft suspensions in front and insufficient wheel travel in back, and it has ever been thus. In the C-Max, it's the soft front that bugs--you really have to slow down for dips. Progressive springs and/or progressive shocks that really stiffen up as they approach full compression might help. Apparently Koni FSD shocks--the not-so-poor man's alternative to active suspension--are available for the C-Max in Europe. I'd love to try those, but they're probably tuned for different weight distribution--i.e. a heavy turbodiesel lump in the front and nothing much in back, instead of a relatively light gas engine in front and a heavy battery pack in the back.



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Posted 20 December 2014 - 04:22 PM

Ford cars in general tend to have overly soft suspensions in front and insufficient wheel travel in back, and it has ever been thus. In the C-Max, it's the soft front that bugs--you really have to slow down for dips. Progressive springs and/or progressive shocks that really stiffen up as they approach full compression might help. Apparently Koni FSD shocks--the not-so-poor man's alternative to active suspension--are available for the C-Max in Europe. I'd love to try those, but they're probably tuned for different weight distribution--i.e. a heavy turbodiesel lump in the front and nothing much in back, instead of a relatively light gas engine in front and a heavy battery pack in the back.

I'm not sure that our front end is that light with Electric Motor/Generator in the front too. :)

 

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Posted 28 December 2014 - 02:32 AM

I'm not sure that our front end is that light with Electric Motor/Generator in the front too. :)

 

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Good point!  








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