wb8nbs Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 This just reported by BBC. Keyless entry vehicles easily stolen. http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-29786320 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiling Jack Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) The C-max is a bit hard to steal. The thieves often need to bring a tow truck in case the 12-v battery is dead. And to make the thieves lives even more difficult, the keylesss entry won't work with a dead 12-volt battery; so they need to pick the mechanical door lock just to open up the car. Edited October 28, 2014 by Smiling Jack vmmvmmm and Louder North 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomerGer Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 And how would the 12 volt battery be dead? Did they kill it? DELIBERATLY? What is to stop them from picking the mechanical door lock? Would THAT cause the 12 volt battery to go dead? This answer does not make sense, Smiling Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiling Jack Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) No one seems to know why the 12-volt batteries go dead. They just do. Was not trying to make sense. Was just going for some comic relief. Too many things to worry about at once. Anyone only needs to worry about one thing at a time. If your 12-volt battery is dead, you probably do not need to worry about the auto thieves unless they brought a tow truck as back-up. Or, on the other hand, if the car gets stolen, you did not need to worry about whether it had a dead 12-volt battery. Edited October 28, 2014 by Smiling Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Smith Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) Smiling Jack...too funny... WB if a thief has a choice between a ford cmax and a range rover... I'm pretty sure your cmax is safe.. typical "the sky is falling" type of reporting... "According to the UK Office for National Statistics, car theft has fallen from 318,000 in 2002 to 77,500 last year." So over the last 12 years car theft has dropped 75% If someone wants something they will get it. Locks/chains/security systems keep honest people honest and help eliminate the easy snatch/grab Edited October 28, 2014 by Marc Smith Smiling Jack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottwood2 Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Not all of us have this concern. I guess one more plus for the SE version. :>) But I would not be too concerned if I had the keyless system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kostby Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Apparently the environmentally-friendly, energy-conscious, hypermiling car thieves haven't discovered the C-MAX Hybrid and C-MAX Energi yet. ;) C-MaxSea and TJBrennan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPL Tech Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 It's called insurance. Dont worry about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian_L Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) And how would the 12 volt battery be dead? Did they kill it? DELIBERATLY? What is to stop them from picking the mechanical door lock? Would THAT cause the 12 volt battery to go dead? This answer does not make sense, Smiling Jack. Easy on the ganja, buddy. Smiling Jack was making a joke. I doubt there's that much of a market in chopped up C-maxes. I'd be more worried with a Toyota Camry or Honda Civic. Edited November 28, 2014 by Adrian_L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Smith Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 It's called insurance. Dont worry about it.problem with that is our cars are not holding their value very well, which means if you car is totaled or unrecovered, you are going to take a big hit in the wallet, especially if you purchased the car new... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian_L Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 When I bought insurance there was a "replace with new" option. It costs a bit more but worth it for those who stress about these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelleytoons Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Right -- you can choose to be "insurance poor" with incredible peace of mind, or be realistic. Although... nowadays if you file a major claim, either car or home, your company will most likely cancel you (or make you so high risk it ain't worth pursuing). So you need to balance that as well. Personally I carry what I need (am required) to carry on home and auto and take the same chances the insurance companies do (namely, they bet you will not lose, and you bet you will. Kind of like betting your life insurance company that you will die -- when you win you lose). In half a century I had my car (a fairly hot sports car model) stolen once -- and after a month or so it was recovered (which often happens). It needed repairs, but was completely covered by my insurance (they hassled with me so long that I wasn't going to get anything until they were sure it wasn't going to be recovered). If I lived/worked in a major crime city I *might* be worried, but the C-Max is got to be the LAST car any thief wants (can you imagine how they'd deal with having to go to the dealer three or four times a year? <g>). (Oh and a year or so later they cancelled my home owner policy -- which was what I filed the losses from the stuff inside the car -- despite me being a customer without a claim for 30 years. It was a small company you might have heard of, called Allstate. The "good hands" people (I just didn't realize where their fingers in that hand were sitting). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Smith Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Kelly, I have USAA, and if you have the ability to get USAA get them... in the past 10 years. I have hit them up for close to 40K. Home (new roof, gutters and siding) real bad( golf ball size and larger) hail stormCar Paintless dent removal and glass ($8K) on my wife saturn (same storm)19,200 for a tree falling and totaling my prius 6 months ago... Now I have also used them for two other totaled vehicle claims (where they subrogated for me) IE I was not at fault.... Rates have not crept up except to account for a newer car, and larger newer home I figure between property and car insurance for the last twenty years we have "broken even" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPL Tech Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) problem with that is our cars are not holding their value very well, which means if you car is totaled or unrecovered, you are going to take a big hit in the wallet, especially if you purchased the car new...But it also means you can replace it with a similar CMAX at little cost since they are going for cheap. Edited November 28, 2014 by SPL Tech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Smith Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 But it also means you can replace it with a similar CMAX at little cost since they are going for cheap. in theory yes... but if you owe money on your cmax, and you don't have gap insurance. Bend over... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPL Tech Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 in theory yes... but if you owe money on your cmax, and you don't have gap insurance. Bend over...Yep, well that's a risk you take when you choose not to buy gap insurance. Same as if you choose not to buy insurance at all. You have to weigh the cost against the benefit. That's how the game is played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Smith Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 Its a shame that you even need to consider having gap insurance... and yes it is a game... and we are on the team thats short handed... Smiling Jack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPL Tech Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 Its a shame that you even need to consider having gap insurance... and yes it is a game... and we are on the team thats short handed...Soon they are going to offer insurance for when your insurance company does not pay. ScubaDadMiami 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelleytoons Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 Soon they are going to offer insurance for when your insurance company does not pay. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmax-nynj Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 For some reason, My CMax SE costs more to insure than my former 2007 VW GTI, despite a lower MSRP. There are a large no. of CMax Taxis in NYC. I wonder if that makes my car vulnerable (for parts). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian_L Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Yeah. I was shocked that my C-max was the same to insure as a fully loaded 2005 Audi A6 luxo-barge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnOhio Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 A few years ago I witnessed a theft of a Corvette with keyless entry. I saw the guy get out of his car in the middle of the day. He walk passed me while I was loading my car outside of a department store. I looked back at his car as it was driving away. He hadn't made it inside of the store before it was gone. The stores cameras caught the whole thing. It took all of 20 seconds to get in and drive away. I heard that the police in Columbus Ohio chased and caught some car thieves in a C max they had stolen from a dealership. They didn't say how they managed to steal it. Couldn't have been too smart. A C max as a get away car? ha ha ha....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevedebi Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Older cars used a 40 bit encryption code on the remote. That could be broken by a laptop computer within a minute. I think the newer remotes have more security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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