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#21 ONLINE   ptjones

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Posted 23 October 2015 - 02:37 PM

I couldn't find any 230v/240v Heaters on KAT's or eBay, but they had 12v.  KAT's Catalog is lacking for info. ;) 

 

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Posted 24 October 2015 - 12:05 PM

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Is my diagram correct ??

 

I want to add this heater (230V 1500W) with brushless engine

 

http://www.sklep.ele...1500w-p-45.html

 

 



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Posted 24 October 2015 - 12:44 PM

1500W/230V is a lot of wattage, wouldn't think you would need to run it more than an half an hour. :)

 

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Posted 24 October 2015 - 12:50 PM

1500W will by ok. From -4F to 131F - in 90 minutes (in 2.0 engine). At 131F the heater will off and on at 122F. 



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Posted 24 October 2015 - 02:37 PM

1500W will by ok. From -4F to 131F - in 90 minutes (in 2.0 engine). At 131F the heater will off and on at 122F. 

Sounds good, let us know how it works. :)

 

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Posted 24 October 2015 - 02:39 PM

Of course but tell me what is the direction of fluid flow :)



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Posted 24 October 2015 - 03:07 PM

Of course but tell me what is the direction of fluid flow :)

Here is the info I have.

CMAXcooling system2
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Posted 24 October 2015 - 03:32 PM

You saved my life!!!!

Now I must check how to connect it and do some tests. I hope that this two pumps allows the flow of fluid. 

 

Thanks a lot !!!!



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Posted 26 October 2015 - 09:28 AM

Let's be clear. This 1500W pump is a circulating immersion pump. It goes in heater hoses, and has in internal pump to circulate water through the engine, with no need for special placement to insure convection. Assuming thermostats on the elements, this unit should be as good as the OEM.

 

Let us know how things go!

 

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Posted 28 November 2015 - 12:13 PM

https://goo.gl/photo...8NbSKi1UHNJVvE8

https://goo.gl/photo...mpGxgxycVGoS4N9
https://goo.gl/photo...5gpRfRApa41VKdA

 

Now I must to check how does it work. 

 

I mean I know how but I need to check in very low temperatures. Today is only 32F - to 122F in 15-20 minutes (at heater). 

 

Where is the engine block temperature sensor?? - temperature display did not show high temperature. 


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Posted 28 November 2015 - 07:27 PM

I think the sensor is in the top of cylinder head.  That is impressive temperature gain in such a short period time. :) 

 

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Posted 30 November 2015 - 02:45 PM

With 1500W, it ought to!!!

 

Nice job, Tomasz!

 

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Posted 30 November 2015 - 03:04 PM

Today. 

 

Outside temp - 32F, Engine temp - 32F, time - 50 min, left side of engine - 135F, Right side of engine - 120F. My view - coolant temp - did not show anything - I do not know why. I can't find temperature sensor. 

 

but to improve EPG  you  need to raise temperature of inverter to :) 

 

But this is not my priority :)



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Posted 30 November 2015 - 03:50 PM

I think the sensor is in the top of cylinder head.  That is impressive temperature gain in such a short period time. :)

 

Paul 

CWT is the only guage I'm aware of. The water temperature is inferred from CWT.


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Posted 30 November 2015 - 05:00 PM

CWT is the only guage I'm aware of. The water temperature is inferred from CWT.

The ScanGauge II screen reads out WT and probably most ICE's are measured at the cylinder head where it is the hottest.  :)

 

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 03:37 PM

The ScanGauge II screen reads out WT and probably most ICE's are measured at the cylinder head where it is the hottest.  :)

 

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The scanguage II reads out what the CPU is reporting as WT, which is caluclated by the computer based on CWT.

 

EDIT: There is no sensor to measure water temperature.


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Posted 01 December 2015 - 05:46 PM

The scanguage II reads out what the CPU is reporting as WT, which is caluclated by the computer based on CWT.

 

EDIT: There is no sensor to measure water temperature.

Here is the part# for the sensor:

12A648
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Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor
2.0 4V Dual Over Head Cam PFI Gas/Electric ; Plug-In Gas/Electric Hybrid

$39.20    

I was unable to copy the diagram, but the sensor does measure the water temp of water coming from the exhaust side of the cylinder head.

Here's a Link: http://www.fordparts...perature sensor.

 

Learned something new everyday. :)

 

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Edited by ptjones, 01 December 2015 - 05:47 PM.


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Posted 01 December 2015 - 06:47 PM

There is a Cylinder Head Temperature(CHT)sensor. It looks as if Fordparts labels it as a Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) sensor (DY-1269). The CHT does not measure coolant temperature. It appears there is a second ECT in the cooling circuit (DY-1187).

"The CHT sensor is installed in the cylinder head and measures the metal temperature. The CHT sensor provides complete engine temperature information and is used to infer coolant temperature."

The CHT is used by the PCM to move the coolant temperature gauge into the "red" and initiate fail-safe cooling.

Edited by Plus 3 Golfer, 01 December 2015 - 07:15 PM.


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Posted 01 December 2015 - 07:08 PM

There is a Cylinder Head Temperature(CHT)sensor. It looks as if Fordparts labels it as a Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) sensor. The CHT does not measure WT.

"The CHT sensor is installed in the cylinder head and measures the metal temperature. The CHT sensor provides complete engine temperature information and is used to infer coolant temperature."

I couldn't find a CHT sensor at FORDPARTS, but I found:

6G004
 
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Posted 01 December 2015 - 09:10 PM

I couldn't find a CHT sensor at FORDPARTS, but I found:
6G004
 
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Intake Manifold Temperature Sensor
2.0 4V Dual Over Head Cam PFI Gas/Electric
$27.25

 


http://www.fordparts...f=3&n=DS7Z6049A
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After looking in the Service Manual, the ECT looks like it might be the CHT. Here's a snip from the Service Manual of the CHT. In the second pic the top of the CHT looks like the top of the ECT. But who knows.
 

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Edited by Plus 3 Golfer, 02 December 2015 - 07:48 AM.







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