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Installing ICE Block Heater

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#41 OFFLINE   ptjones

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Posted 02 December 2015 - 09:25 AM

To me it looks like the same part they call the  Intake Manifold Temperature Sensor in FORDPARTS. ;) :headscratch: 

 

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Posted 02 December 2015 - 09:39 AM

To me it looks like the same part they call the  Intake Manifold Temperature Sensor in FORDPARTS. ;) :headscratch: 

 

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I think you are right #6G004 . http://www.ebay.com/...&chn=ps&lpid=82



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Posted 02 December 2015 - 09:49 AM

Today:

Outside temp - 35F

Time - 90 min. 

Engine temp - 35F and after 90min - display shows 1mm of white, after 60sec of engine running- 3/4 of normal temp. 

 

I'm waiting for very cold weather ( minus 5F at least). 


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Posted 13 December 2015 - 06:52 PM

If the ice has to run to heat the battery wouldn't it make more sense to heat the battery?

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Posted 13 December 2015 - 06:52 PM

Delete.

Edited by markd, 13 December 2015 - 06:58 PM.


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Posted 14 December 2015 - 09:35 AM

If the ice has to run to heat the battery wouldn't it make more sense to heat the battery?

I don't think anyone was talking about heating the HVB in this thread, but that happens automatically anytime the HVB discharges or Charging from the ICE. I have monitored HVB temps with the ScanGaugeII to see what temp the fan turns on.  HVB works better when cold than hot. :)

 

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Posted 14 December 2015 - 12:26 PM

Blue thermometer - This indicates that the hybrid system is not warm enough to allow EV operation. The gasoline engine will typically run continuously when the indicator is blue

 

To increase fuel economy I have to add one more heater - in EV coolant hose. 

 

My heater is to protect engine in cold weather :)



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Posted 14 December 2015 - 01:02 PM

Blue thermometer - This indicates that the hybrid system is not warm enough to allow EV operation. The gasoline engine will typically run continuously when the indicator is blue

 

To increase fuel economy I have to add one more heater - in EV coolant hose. 

 

My heater is to protect engine in cold weather :)

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What are you quoting? I had to refresh my memory by checking the OM - the blue thermometer is for the Water Temperature disply on MyView, correct?



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Posted 14 December 2015 - 01:17 PM

Manual:

 

• Coolant Temp – Indicates engine coolant temperature. At normal operating temperature, the level indicator will be white and will be in the normal range (between H and C). If the engine coolant temperature exceeds the normal range, the level indicator will change to red to indicate that the engine is overheating. Stop the vehicle as soon as safely possible, turn off the vehicle and let the engine cool. The thermometer indicator next to the gauge will illuminate in blue or white to indicate the following (not available for Energi vehicles): • Blue thermometer - This indicates that the hybrid system is not warm enough to allow EV operation. The gasoline engine will typically run continuously when the indicator is blue.

 

Note: During silent key start mode, the thermometer indicator will be blue, but the gasoline engine will not run. This is the result of the vehicle computer allowing the engine to be cooler during the silent key start period. This is normal operation and does not indicate a problem with your vehicle. After the first engine start the indicator will turn white when the gasoline engine is warm enough to turn off.

• White thermometer - This indicates that the hybrid system is warm enough to allow EV operation. If the vehicle operates on battery power long enough, it is possible that the gasoline engine may need to run to keep the system warm. In this case, the thermometer indicator will revert back to blue.


Edited by Tomasz Karwowski, 14 December 2015 - 01:18 PM.


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Posted 14 December 2015 - 02:40 PM

Learned something new today; thanks Tomasz!



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Posted 16 December 2015 - 10:41 PM

To my surprise it only took an half an hour to plugin my ICE Block Heater at the heater plug under the exhaust manifold, so I'm back to 575 Watts now. :) 

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Edited by ptjones, 10 April 2016 - 04:19 PM.


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Posted 18 December 2015 - 09:34 AM

Yesterday I plugged in my ICE Heaters(Block and Oil Pan) and in an hour it from WT 76 to 101*F, TFT 69 to 73*F, IT 73 to 83*F and a SOC of 33% I got 41mpg going 7mi. to work with OT64*F.   Today I had Heaters on for 1 1/2hrs and WT went from 59 to 119*F, it took 1/2mi. to get up to 128*F. SOC was 45% and OT 39*F and I got 45mpg going to work.  SOC does have significant impact mpg's along with WT. :) 

 

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Posted 10 April 2016 - 10:34 AM

The coolant temp gauge display does not show a blue thermometer on my C-max when coolant is cold, contrary to the manual and online vids.  Perhaps this went away in some module firmware update.

 

My 2013 factory block heater quit working this week.  I am hoping it is just the connector at the heater.  In any case it should be under warranty (build 7/2013). 



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Posted 10 April 2016 - 04:22 PM

The coolant temp gauge display does not show a blue thermometer on my C-max when coolant is cold, contrary to the manual and online vids.  Perhaps this went away in some module firmware update.

 

My 2013 factory block heater quit working this week.  I am hoping it is just the connector at the heater.  In any case it should be under warranty (build 7/2013). 

If it is at the block where it unplugged, that can be a challenge to get back on depending what kind of plug arrangement you have. ;)  Good Luck. :) 

 

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Posted 11 April 2016 - 07:41 AM

The coolant temp gauge display does not show a blue thermometer on my C-max when coolant is cold, contrary to the manual and online vids.  Perhaps this went away in some module firmware update.

 

My 2013 factory block heater quit working this week.  I am hoping it is just the connector at the heater.  In any case it should be under warranty (build 7/2013). 

The changing color thermometer on the dash was removed in the software update that increased the max EV speed to 85 MPH. This software update also changed the operation of the ICE when the coolant is at colder temps which would have necessitated a change in the programming of the blue thermometer.

 

My parents' C-Max Energi started showing the wrench icon recently. The wrench icon would only appear when they turned on the heat while driving in EV mode & used the electric coolant heater. I checked for codes with FORScan and didn't find anything really telling. They took their C-Max to the dealer & the dealer determined that the block heater was leaking. It was replaced under warranty and they have not had the wrench light since. I have not had the chance to see if they have confirmed that the new EBH works, though.


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Posted 11 May 2017 - 09:48 AM

 

Last week I found out my ICE block heater was leaking and I think it has been doing it for sometime. I noticed two days in a row that the WT wasn't going up very much with the block heater plugged in and assumed that the plug had come undone. I pulled the cover off to find coolant dripping from block heater plug, the plastic piece in the center had started to allow coolant to get by it. :sad:   It is such a big job to install a new one that I decided to put the old plug back in. I bought instead a 250 watt oil pan heater pad off of eBay to go with the 125 watt Model 9 Wolverine oil pan heater pad. I plugged it in this morning for an hour and a half and only saw 25*F rise in temp over OT.  My WT did go up very quickly so apparently the hot oil warmed up the ICE fast. :)  Now I only have 375 Watts vs 575 Watts before, but it still seems to be working fast. :)

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Edited by ptjones, 11 May 2017 - 09:57 AM.


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Posted 14 May 2017 - 09:04 AM

After a week  of use the two oil pan pads(375watts) is definately not as good as block heater and one oil pan pad(575watts), but it is far easier to install and it does work. :)

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