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Fuel injector failure every 37,000 miles


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#81 OFFLINE   djc

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 03:39 PM

Sorry to hear the injector went.  As I remember replacing them definitely looked like something one could do oneself - they are high on the engine and are just pressed into little 0-ring like gaskets on the manifold. If this happened to me, and I did the work myself, i would replace all 4 - almost all the labor is in removing and installing the rail, so negligible increment to do all injectors at once. 

Please post here to let us know how it went.

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#82 OFFLINE   Adrian_L

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 01:22 PM

Amazon.com let me down big time.  They promised 2 day delivery on four Motorcraft CM-5148s  then when I went back to check on the status it told me arrival date was Jan 1-Feb 1!    Back-ordered, apparently.

Anyway it all worked out because there are 4 injectors now waiting for me in Bellingham at Walmart. 

 

I watched the youtube video and it looks pretty straightforward.   Stay tuned....


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#83 OFFLINE   Adrian_L

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 12:54 PM

Ok, so have removed the cover and unplugged all the injectors and various sensors around the fuel rail.  Only problem is I can't see a way to easily disconnect the fuel line from the fuel rail.   There is a small metal tube leading from the fuel rail into a bell shaped metal connector.  I don't know if I can just pull the fuel rail out of this bell shaped receptacle or if that will damage anything. 

 

It doesn't appear as if there are any other connections further up the fuel line.

 

Any help appreciated!

 

(UPDATE: )

Figured it out.   It's a push on style fuel connector with four little tabs inside the "bell".   You can get a disconnect tool, but I just took a 3/8" length of PVC tube, cut down the middle.   I jammed it in the bell part with a screwdriver and the two tubes came apart.

 

Job took me about two hours in total.   Removal of the fuel rail, with that rat's maze of cables, was the only daunting part of the job.

 

Speaking of rodents, I needed to vacuum out some droppings from around the top of the cylinder head.  I guess it's pretty cozy under the air cleaner cover when the mercury falls.

 

Car is back to running smoothly.  Incidentally, a Ford dealership in Vancouver wanted to charge me $140 CAD for each injector.  I found them for around $40 USD online out of the States.


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#84 OFFLINE   djc

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Posted 26 December 2018 - 09:00 PM

Nice improvised fuel line disconnect.  Congrats!



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Posted 02 January 2019 - 09:52 PM

Well I guess I should consider myself very fortunate our 2013 Cmax has 194,880 miles and has been wonderful. Believe it or not still on my original set of brake pads (mostly freeway driving) just amazing. Here in California I have always run low test 89 octane and never an issue with injectors or anything else. Based on my miles I am curious of what members have been paying for a new trans? Thanks



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Posted 03 January 2019 - 10:14 AM

Well I guess I should consider myself very fortunate our 2013 Cmax has 194,880 miles and has been wonderful. Believe it or not still on my original set of brake pads (mostly freeway driving) just amazing. Here in California I have always run low test 89 octane and never an issue with injectors or anything else. Based on my miles I am curious of what members have been paying for a new trans? Thanks

I think most have been replaced under warranty.  Trans is in the $5-6,000+ range and would cost $1-2,000 labor.

 

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 02:26 PM

Or salvage.  For reference:   from 2017 Fusion hybrid with 32k miles $1525 shipped. 

https://www.ebay.com...63684700?chn=ps

 

C-max should be similar and increasingly available.  Unfortunately there's no salvage labor.



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Posted 06 January 2019 - 11:06 AM

41,000 miles as of today!!! 

Having read some of the comments in this thread, I thought it was important to share my experience the past 4 months.  My beloved Cmax has become completely unreliable and I am having to trade it for a more reliable vehicle.  Since October 15, 2018, I have had my car out of the service department for about 7 days.  The engine light appeared and I wish that was the end of the story.  To make the story short, 4 visits, one not covered by warranty - power steering rack replacement for $1,000.  Ford did pay a bit over $400.00 probably because I have a great service manager and I had my car back just a few days after it was in service for 5 weeks for a transmission replacement.  During the trans replacement, they also repaired a cylinder misfire, replaced an axle that was leaking and the regular battery.  I just picked it up for the 4th time after having all 4 fuel injectors replaced.  

I love my little cmax energie.  It has saved me so many trips to the gas station and so much money on gas.  I cannot keep it tho because the warranty for the drivetrain is up in just a few months and I cannot afford to repair it!!

Fair warning people.  Surely I am not the only one experiencing these problems.  Can this be something to do with using the electric battery and the gas sitting on the components. (?) . Going to and from work I was able to use purely electric most days and sometimes did not fill up for months!!  I kept a record (almost 100% complete) and averaged 70 miles to the gallon!!!  It is going to be painful to move to a pure hybrid, but MUST be done.  : (


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Posted 06 January 2019 - 05:05 PM

41,000 miles as of today!!! 

Having read some of the comments in this thread, I thought it was important to share my experience the past 4 months.  My beloved Cmax has become completely unreliable and I am having to trade it for a more reliable vehicle.  Since October 15, 2018, I have had my car out of the service department for about 7 days.  The engine light appeared and I wish that was the end of the story.  To make the story short, 4 visits, one not covered by warranty - power steering rack replacement for $1,000.  Ford did pay a bit over $400.00 probably because I have a great service manager and I had my car back just a few days after it was in service for 5 weeks for a transmission replacement.  During the trans replacement, they also repaired a cylinder misfire, replaced an axle that was leaking and the regular battery.  I just picked it up for the 4th time after having all 4 fuel injectors replaced.  

I love my little cmax energie.  It has saved me so many trips to the gas station and so much money on gas.  I cannot keep it tho because the warranty for the drivetrain is up in just a few months and I cannot afford to repair it!!

Fair warning people.  Surely I am not the only one experiencing these problems.  Can this be something to do with using the electric battery and the gas sitting on the components. (?) . Going to and from work I was able to use purely electric most days and sometimes did not fill up for months!!  I kept a record (almost 100% complete) and averaged 70 miles to the gallon!!!  It is going to be painful to move to a pure hybrid, but MUST be done.  : (

Your Warranty isn't up until 8yrs/100k miles on the power train.

 

Paul


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Posted 27 January 2019 - 09:16 AM

What were the symptoms of Fuel Injector Failure?  I got misfire with P202 on a cold day (first time ever).  I tried starting the car several times the same night (didn't drive it) and the same misfire/code was present.  The next day (warmer day) when I started the car the problem went away......



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Posted 27 January 2019 - 03:04 PM

I would use some good fuel injector cleaner to start with and see how that goes.  If use still have problems go to the Dealer and have them fix it.  Not sure if it is covered unless you have a extended warranty.

 

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Posted 27 January 2019 - 07:23 PM

The problem automajically went away this morning when I started the car.  I cleared the codes; drove it around a bit and nothing comes back.  Go figure...



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Posted 28 January 2019 - 02:25 PM

I would still use some good fuel injector cleaner, it's cheap and may solve the problem long term. IMO :)

 

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