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#21 OFFLINE   raadsel

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 03:05 PM

Bingo.  Very complex / sophisticated teenagers !

 

Very thankful here for the little bit of tweaking from the mother ship.

 

Nick

 

It seems like there are a few jokes in there, such as the hybrids having the sophistication/complexity that other teens aspire to.  ;)









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#22 OFFLINE   jestevens

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 09:11 AM

We had some of the original 2010 Fusion Hybrids, and the Escape Hybrid here at work, quite frankly I was not that impressed considering the hybrid versions didn't get that much more MPG and were significantly more expensive.

 

The C-MAX was the first hybrid that really seemed to use some of the cross-licensed Toyota tech, but Ford somehow managed to make the performance of the C-MAX much nicer (I test drove a Prius V and it was sooo sluggish).  The panoramic roof was a nice option that is hard to find on cars less than $30K..It was the first one that really seemed like a true hybrid to me - enough to make me want to buy one when the price dropped below $24K.

 

I had a Prius, and as far as I'm concerned the hatchback is still one of the best sedans out there, smooth, quiet, relatively powerful, no other 87 octane car can get 49-50MPG..

 

Using Li-on batteries was a risk Toyota didn't want to take because the NiMh batteries seemed safer, and more reliable - they did a lot of things like using AGM battery instead of liquid battery, to try to make things safer in a crash.  Even so in 15 years of Prius being on the road people are just now starting to trust the battery packs so maybe Toyota didn't want to take that risk without more testing. 

 

Li-on batteries can explode violently if not built and maintained properly (look at the knock offs in the news lately and the Dreamliner airplane)..  So yeah it's a risk, but using those packs Ford was able to equip a much bigger vehicle, provide better performance and use EV more aggressively than Toyota.  I guess that risk is part of buying the car.  At least they are covering some of the faults with recalls.  Even with all of the TSBs I still like my C-MAX, wish Ford would market them more aggressively but I am seeing more of them on the road now anyway.



#23 OFFLINE   fbov

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 11:03 AM

I don't see the switch to the LiON battery a major change. ...

Then you're likely not an engineer.



#24 OFFLINE   ptjones

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 11:09 AM

Then you're likely not an engineer.

There is a very noticeable difference driving between an FEH and CMAX from my experience. ICE Charging is a lot faster in in CMAX. :) 

 

Frank I PM ed you.

 

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#25 OFFLINE   ptjones

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 11:22 AM

We had some of the original 2010 Fusion Hybrids, and the Escape Hybrid here at work, quite frankly I was not that impressed considering the hybrid versions didn't get that much more MPG and were significantly more expensive.

 

The C-MAX was the first hybrid that really seemed to use some of the cross-licensed Toyota tech, but Ford somehow managed to make the performance of the C-MAX much nicer (I test drove a Prius V and it was sooo sluggish).  The panoramic roof was a nice option that is hard to find on cars less than $30K..It was the first one that really seemed like a true hybrid to me - enough to make me want to buy one when the price dropped below $24K.

 

I had a Prius, and as far as I'm concerned the hatchback is still one of the best sedans out there, smooth, quiet, relatively powerful, no other 87 octane car can get 49-50MPG..

 

Using Li-on batteries was a risk Toyota didn't want to take because the NiMh batteries seemed safer, and more reliable - they did a lot of things like using AGM battery instead of liquid battery, to try to make things safer in a crash.  Even so in 15 years of Prius being on the road people are just now starting to trust the battery packs so maybe Toyota didn't want to take that risk without more testing. 

 

Li-on batteries can explode violently if not built and maintained properly (look at the knock offs in the news lately and the Dreamliner airplane)..  So yeah it's a risk, but using those packs Ford was able to equip a much bigger vehicle, provide better performance and use EV more aggressively than Toyota.  I guess that risk is part of buying the car.  At least they are covering some of the faults with recalls.  Even with all of the TSBs I still like my C-MAX, wish Ford would market them more aggressively but I am seeing more of them on the road now anyway.

I had both 2008 and 2010 FEH's and was getting low 40's City and 30-35 HWY which was way better than ICE Escape, It was all about how you drive them. :)

 

Paul



#26 OFFLINE   fbov

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 11:33 AM

And I'll re-post this link, for those interested in battery technology. Each technology is unique, even as they all do the same thing.

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/

 

Frank








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