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#21 OFFLINE   ptjones

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Posted 02 December 2016 - 09:21 AM

Probably the only way they can sell cars in Calif. :drop:

 

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#22 OFFLINE   C-MaxSea

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Posted 04 December 2016 - 05:21 PM

The Bolt is a practical, potato-shaped tall wagon, very much like the C-Max ..................

 

Guessing, I think the C-Bolt EV (or is that the C-Max EV) will be a winner for many with a range that begins to be reasonable.  It would almost work for us.

 

Too late though, and perhaps not with the key features that brought us to buy a C-Max.  10-15 years from now when we are shopping again the market should be flooded with even better options. 

 

Good luck HotPotato,

Cheers to under $30K,

:play:  :skateboard:  :play:,

 

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Edited by C-MaxSea, 05 December 2016 - 10:41 PM.

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#23 OFFLINE   SnowStorm

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 10:19 PM

I just read that GM is projecting a $9000 loss on each Bolt sold.  Autoblog

Shouldn't be a problem - they lost a lot more on each EV1 they crushed! :stirpot:

(But I do hope they sell well - it looks like a very nice car.)



#24 OFFLINE   AZgman

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 10:45 PM

Shouldn't be a problem - they lost a lot more on each EV1 they crushed! :stirpot:

(But I do hope they sell well - it looks like a very nice car.)

 

True, but they intend to sell a lot more Bolts than EV1s! I also wish them well, but for me, a hybrid just makes more sense at this point in time.



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Posted 17 January 2017 - 03:42 PM

Well, I test drove an LT and a Premiere, twice each. Here's my impression:

1. Seats are really narrow and bolsters are really firm. Being able to feel the hard metal frame through the seat padding every time I slid into the car...not a plus.

2. Sound of base stereo is disappointing and sound of uplevel stereo is just OK. So identical to C-Max in this regard.

3. Interior materials quality is not as nice as the C-Max: fewer soft-touch surfaces, etc. The C-Max looks more expensive than it is inside; by contrast, the Bolt has an interesting look, not bad, but they obviously had to build to a price.

4. Motor Trend timed the car at 6.3 seconds to 60. I believe it. And it's so silent that it doesn't feel as fast as it is; there's no noisy engine drama, it's just abruptly going however fast you wanted.

5. Ride and handling are similar to the C-Max.

6. Interior width is narrower. Front and rear legroom is ample. Rear seats fold flat. Cargo compartment isn't as long but it is deeper: cargo sits below a lip rather than atop a hump as in the C-Max. And you can remove a false floor for even more depth.

7. Lots of active safety tech available if desired: lane keep assist, blind spot monitors, 360 degree around-view cameras, etc. But not the thing I want most: adaptive cruise control.

8. D.C. fast charge is a $750 option; it's sufficient in speed and availability to make the car suitable for road trips in many part of the country, including mine. It uses the SAE Combo standard like the Germans, not Chademo like the Japanese, and of course is not compatible with Tesla Superchargers. Most DCFC stations are 50 kW (vs Tesla at 125 kW), but that may change over time; Chevy says it will charge at 80 kW if you happen to find such a station, but doesn't state the max charge input possible.

8. Here's the killer though. There is no bargain lease pricing as we have come to expect from EVs. Being an early adopter will cost you.

For me, pricing isn't there yet, not when I lack positive equity in my trade. But I think it will be soon enough.
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Posted 17 January 2017 - 04:47 PM

Thanks, HotPotato, for sharing.  Some reactions:

  1. Sad.  Seats are so important - its what you feel the whole time you're in the car.  I just don't understand why they can't spend a few more dollars on seat comfort.  Shucks, by now we should have a seat option that automatically adjusts their shape to perfectly fit your body!
  2. Another shame - especially in a quiet car.  The industry should be forced back to standard format upgradeable sound systems.
  3. Perhaps not as critical but, again, any of us would likely pay the incremental cost difference for nicer stuff - but you can't.
  4. Awesome!  No more ICE!happy%20feet.gif
  5. Perfect!
  6. A lower cargo floor sure sounds great.  How is headroom?
  7. A shame there's no adaptive cruise but would love to try the 360 degree cameras.
  8. So for long trips charging is still quite an issue - $750 option with present limit at 50kW....   I sure hope we get past these early limitations soon.  We need the 350kW chargers that Ford (and others) are installing in Europe.  Of course for local driving the 200+ range essentially eliminates the charging issue.
  9. It usually does - but we are getting more BEV options every year! :)

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#27 OFFLINE   HotPotato

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 01:09 AM

Headroom's great, much like the C-Max.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:46 AM

Is there a 110v EVSE supplied with the Bolt?  How much current does it draw?



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 02:00 PM

Thanks, HotPotato, for sharing.  Some reactions:

  • So for long trips charging is still quite an  issue - $750 option with present limit at 50kW....   I sure hope we get past these early limitations soon.  We need the 350kW chargers that Ford (and others) are installing in Europe.  Of course for local driving the 200+ range essentially eliminates the charging issue.
  • It usually does - but we are getting more BEV options every year! :)

 

"Installing in Europe" link.   BRAVO, :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:  BRAVISSIMO !!!  Up to 350kw (quick charge) charging stations throughout.  Cheers to Ford, BMW, VW ..................... for stepping up on this. 

 

Too bad not in little ol' here :sad:   :cry:  :sad:

 

Dare I quote "the ICE age is ending", sooner there than here sadly.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 05:55 PM

I went to Barrett-Jackson today and got to drive the Chevy Bolt (short drive however). Not a bad driving experience but this is what I came away with:

 

Pros:

  • 230+ mile range
  • 11" center console display
  • Leg room & Head room
  • Turning radius
  • Handling
  • Quiet

Cons:

  • Price (Ok not that bad as you most likely, depending on your income, will get $7500 back from the Gov't)
  • Seats are narrow
  • Body is narrow
  • Seats may be too firm for some (but were Ok for me)
  • Luggage space is small
  • Lack of extensive instrument panel customization
  • Lack of charging stations
  • Availability (not available in all states just yet)
  • Funky feeling brakes

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#31 OFFLINE   ptjones

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 11:01 AM

You Lucky Dog, I wanted to go, but I'm not in the area now and can't get a way. :sad:  :sos: BUMMER

 

Paul



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Posted 19 January 2017 - 04:19 PM

Is there a 110v EVSE supplied with the Bolt? How much current does it draw?


Yes, one is included. They use the same strategy as the Volt: it draws very low power (8 amps?) unless you manually change the setting to full power (12 amps?). This is so that people with old wiring or a garage fridge, etc don't keep tripping their breakers.

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 04:26 PM

350 amp chargers are coming to the US too: http://www.hybridcar...-to-california/

But it's unclear a) if any cars currently available can actually use them and b) if they'll become widespread.

I think this location - Baker, CA - is ideal: a high volume of cars doing the California to Vegas jaunt, which itself is a high speed long distance drive. So lots of people needing lots of charge pronto. But I don't see these mega chargers becoming common. And for battery life I don't know we'd want them to. They pump so much juice that IIRC the handles and cables have to be liquid cooled. That's got to be a lot of stress on the cells.

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 12:42 PM

New review with Canadian prices.  Rates it as a '9.5'. 

 

http://www.theglobea...rticle33755125/








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