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New Supercapacitor technology may allow cars to recharge in minutes


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#1 OFFLINE   raadsel

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Posted 07 December 2016 - 03:17 PM

I found this interesting, a UK company, Augmented Optics, has filed for patents of a new supercapacitor breakthrough that may allow batteries to charge in minutes. They are hoping to build a prototype car next year that will be able to travel 150 miles and charge in seconds. Apparently there capacitors are using soft contract lens technology to create a polymer that can hold a large amount of electricity and recharge quickly. They also believe it will cost less to produce than lithium ion batteries.

 

It will be interesting to see if this pans out, or at least leads to a further breakthrough. It will be interesting to hear more once this technology is tested in a prototype car.


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#2 OFFLINE   ptjones

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Posted 07 December 2016 - 03:28 PM

Very interesting. :)

 

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Posted 07 December 2016 - 11:48 PM

Naysayer Alert! - Naysayer Alert!  The ICE Age is ending!happy%20feet.gif

[ Or maybe not - :sad: - there may always be folks who prefer to pump smelly gasoline, change their engine oil, etc just so they can hear a battery and electric motor crank-crank-crank the archaic thing to life.... :lol: .... gotta love the nostalgia! ]

Here's the University of Bristol article and the SuperCapacitor Materials site, makers of the electrolyte.  The University article says the new capacitors would make it "possible to recharge your mobile phone, laptop or other mobile devices in just a few seconds."  For cars, they say recharging will "take just a few minutes to perform."  You won't recharge your electric car in "a few seconds".  In fact, a 60 kWH recharge in 10 minutes will need a 350 kW charger!  But wait!  That's exactly what BMW, Volkswagen and Ford(!) are doing in Europe!  That's almost 3x more power than a Tesla Supercharger!  400 chargers going in next year and 1000s by the end of the decade.  They just better bring that system to the USA!  Range anxiety?  What's that? :shift:


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Posted 08 December 2016 - 10:32 AM

With that much wattage involved you would think there would be significant heat to dissipate. :headscratch: It didn't say anything about heat in the article. :) 

 

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Posted 08 December 2016 - 12:08 PM

The inherent issue with super capacitors has been energy density.  Based on the one link it's only 3-7 Wh per kg for the super cap (let's assume an optimistic value of 10 Wh per pound with ongoing development). So, say a 12 kWh super cap would weigh about 1200 pounds - Tesla's 85 kWh battery pack weighs 1200 pounds. That might be okay for the buses in China but it appears that there's a lot more work to get the energy density up for super caps to compete with ICE vehicles on range and energy replacement times.

 

  • The new technology is believed to have the potential for electric cars to travel to similar distances as petrol cars without the need to stop for lengthy re-charging breaks of between 6-8 hours, and instead re-charge fully in the time it takes to fill a regular car with petrol.

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Posted 23 December 2016 - 07:57 AM

 

The inherent issue with super capacitors has been energy density. ...

+1

 

That 1200 lb super cap has the energy content of ~2 lb of gasoline. Only three orders of magnitude to go!

 

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