SPL Tech Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 I am looking at getting a used 2013 C-Max and I want to be able to compare different options when looking at car listings online before I drive to the location to look at the car. Specifically, I am looking for an SEL C-Max that has the 5-speaker stereo system with HD FM (as opposed to the 4-speaker systems) and the colored accent lighting inside. However, I dont know what Ford actually calls those features nor what equipment group they are a part of.As such, is there an old brochure on Ford's website somewhere that shows every available option for the C-Max and what the different equipment groups contain? That way I can plug the VIN of a prospective vehicle into Ford's VIN decoder and see if it has the equipment group I want before I drive to the dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obob Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 I am curious why you want a 2013 with the known transmission problems. Are you going to look for one that had the transmission replaced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kostby Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) To answer your specific question, EVERY Hybrid SEL and Energi SEL should have Ambient Lighting, and every SEL with 301A, 302A, or 303A will have HD Radio, but not either base 300A. Here are two screenshots from the 2013 C-MAX Brochure with the details: Base model C-MAX Hybrid SE is designated Equipment Group 200ABase model C-MAX Hybrid SEL is designated Equipment Group 300ABase model C-MAX Energi (plug-in) Hybrid SEL is also designated Equipment Group 300A 2013 C-MAX Option packages: As I understand it, Daytime Running Lights (DRL) was a special order option, and commonly added to Fleet/Rental purchase vehicles. The colored LED interior lighting is called Ambient Lighting and was part of the Hybrid SE 201A and 203A Equipment Groups (but NOT base 200A or 202A), and ALL the 300A Base Equipment Group in both the SEL and Energi SEL. The Ambient Lighting package is also available separately for purchase & installation in the SE from Ford Parts as Ford Interior Light Kit cl8z13e700aa for $249.00 Edited February 2, 2017 by kostby ptjones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raadsel Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 Personally. I'd look (at a minimum) for the 302 package because of the rearview camera. It will also have the power liftgate, with the foot activation option, which is a convenient feature. ptjones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbov Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 https://www.etis.ford.com/ Click the Vehicle tab at the top, enter the VIN, and you'll get a full list of open recalls and basic options. Click Show Details and you'll get a list of all available options, showing which are on that car. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPL Tech Posted February 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) I am curious why you want a 2013 with the known transmission problems. Are you going to look for one that had the transmission replaced?Because they are the cheapest and there are virtually no changes between the year models on the CMax. How much of an issue is it really? I've read about two guys having problems on this forum, but that's out of how many tens of thousands of 2013's sold? Edited February 3, 2017 by SPL Tech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill-N Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Because they are the cheapest and there are virtually no changes between the year models on the CMax. How much of an issue is it really? I've read about two guys having problems on this forum, but that's out of how many tens of thousands of 2013's sold? It's been more than just a couple of vehicles that have had transmissions replaced. However, it's been done under warranty (8 yrs, 100k) so just make sure the warranty transfers to you. FYI, the failures have typically occurred in the 30-50k mile range. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPL Tech Posted February 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 It's been more than just a couple of vehicles that have had transmissions replaced. However, it's been done under warranty (8 yrs, 100k) so just make sure the warranty transfers to you. FYI, the failures have typically occurred in the 30-50k mile range. Good luck.Do we know what the specific problem with the transmissions is and what the symptoms are leading to the failure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john*thomas Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Because they are the cheapest and there are virtually no changes between the year models on the CMax. How much of an issue is it really? I've read about two guys having problems on this forum, but that's out of how many tens of thousands of 2013's sold? I bought a 2013 even after reading about the issue. I bought one with 40,000 miles so I'm covered for awhile and really, if I have an issue somewhere down the road I'll do what I've done with other cars. Find a low mile later one and replace it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obob Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Do we know what the specific problem with the transmissions is and what the symptoms are leading to the failure? http://fordcmaxhybridforum.com/topic/3094-ssm-44252-hybrids-in-taxi-service-hf35-transmission-bearing-noise/ http://fordcmaxhybridforum.com/topic/5288-mileage-and-build-date-for-ecvt-that-have-failed/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPL Tech Posted February 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 To answer your specific question, EVERY Hybrid SEL and Energi SEL should have Ambient Lighting, and every SEL with 301A, 302A, or 303A will have HD Radio, but not either base 300A. Here are two screenshots from the 2013 C-MAX Brochure with the details: Base model C-MAX Hybrid SE is designated Equipment Group 200ABase model C-MAX Hybrid SEL is designated Equipment Group 300ABase model C-MAX Energi (plug-in) Hybrid SEL is also designated Equipment Group 300A Screen Shot 2017-02-01 at 9.42.35 PM.png 2013 C-MAX Option packages:Screen Shot 2017-02-01 at 9.42.12 PM.png As I understand it, Daytime Running Lights (DRL) was a special order option, and commonly added to Fleet/Rental purchase vehicles. The colored LED interior lighting is called Ambient Lighting and was part of the Hybrid SE 201A and 203A Equipment Groups (but NOT base 200A or 202A), and ALL the 300A Base Equipment Group in both the SEL and Energi SEL. The Ambient Lighting package is also available separately for purchase & installation in the SE from Ford Parts as Ford Interior Light Kit cl8z13e700aa for $249.00So I know that 301A does not include the backup camera, but does it include the proximity sensors that beep when you are backing up toward an object? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raadsel Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) So I know that 301A does not include the backup camera, but does it include the proximity sensors that beep when you are backing up toward an object? Yes, it looks to have the real proximity sensors. The 303A has the front proximity sensors, along with active park assist. Edited February 4, 2017 by raadsel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptjones Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 I got 302A, didn't want the car parking itself, Had it on my 2010 FEH and it scared me to much. LOL :) Backup camera works fine. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markd Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Does this help? https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-z82x13X417UHo1R2ZucHRoMlk/view?usp=drivesdk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPL Tech Posted February 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) Does this help? https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-z82x13X417UHo1R2ZucHRoMlk/view?usp=drivesdkYes, that's the exact document I was looking for. How do I input the VIN of a prospective vehicle that I am looking at and get that window sticker document? The etis.ford.com link posted above does not say what equipment group the vehicle has. Edited February 8, 2017 by SPL Tech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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