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#1 OFFLINE   markd

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 06:48 PM

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 10:12 PM

I'm hoping its really the Model E, called an Escape as a cover up, and there's also an electric only version!



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Posted 02 April 2019 - 05:50 AM

I'm not ready for a electric vehicle. I wonder what the mpg's will be on the hybrid.

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 09:33 AM

:waiting: :drool:


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Posted 02 April 2019 - 09:49 AM

I'm not that anxious, like always I'll wait until the second year of production.

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 09:56 AM

Oh, I agree.  I'm not anxious to buy one - just to see how close it comes to ticking all the boxes on my with list if I were buying.



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Posted 02 April 2019 - 10:18 AM

https://www.edmunds....rd/escape/2020/

 

I like the looks.  

 

plug-in battery will have a capacity of 14.4 kWh - 30 mile range seems low unless Ford is only going to allowing charging to about 70% or so.

 

Ford will begin shipping all versions of the Escape except the plug-in hybrid, which will be released about six months later in the spring of 2020.


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Posted 02 April 2019 - 10:23 AM

"A briefcase-size battery...is good for up to 550 miles". Hmm in warm weather, we're used to a 700+ range in our 2018 C-Max.

 

From Autoweek:

The regular Escape hybrid uses a briefcase-size battery under the floor and is good for up to 550 miles of total range with a full tank of fuel. The plug-in has a larger battery (14.1 kWh vs 1.1 kWh), good for 30 miles of pure electric range. Charging time on the plug-in is 3.5 hours on a Level 2 charger, 10-11 hours on a 115-volt home plug. New for 2020, both Escape hybrids have four hybrid-specific modes that include auto EV (the vehicle decides whether to run gas or electric), EV now (all-electric driving), EV later (all gas-powered driving) and EV charge (drivers can continue to charge the battery while driving to generate electric-only miles later). The cargo area is about 3 cubic feet smaller in the hybrids (37.5 to 34.4 behind the second row) due to the placement of the 12-volt battery in the rear.

Read more: https://autoweek.com...e#ixzz5jx6f1lKc


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Posted 02 April 2019 - 11:06 AM

Here it is on Ford.com



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Posted 02 April 2019 - 12:25 PM

Personally, I'm not a fan of the dial instead of a "gear" shift.  And way too many buttons on the steering wheel.  But otherwise, I might be in the market for the plug-in version (if I live that long).  Until then, I still  :wub2:  my ice storm sel.

 

Oh, and I'd love to have the heads-up display.

 

 

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 01:03 PM

I'll have to see it, but it looks like a good replacement for the spaceship.

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 03:06 PM

Saw this on FOX Headlines News: https://www.foxnews....in-hybrid-power  Said available Hybrid this Fall and Plugin Spring with 30 miles EV range.

 

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 03:46 PM

The hybrid's mpg is around 38 according to Car and Driver, I can live with that.

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 06:35 PM

Well, I must say, the hybrids do look like great replacements for the C-Max (except price???).

 

What I like or found interesting:

  • Good overall styling - a lot better than some competitors.
  • Awesome rear seats with all that adjust-ability.  Really nice to be able to trade passenger room with luggage space as needed.  And as one report stated, more rear legroom than a Suburban!  Really?  I checked it out - its true - one whole inch more!  Pretty funny.
    EDIT: Car and Driver says "In nonhybrid models, the rear seat now slides fore and aft...".  Where is the seat positioned in the hybrids?
  • More ground/curb clearance (I hope - haven't seen numbers yet)
  • 2000 lb towing - that better be for hybrid versions too.
  • What appears to be better packaging of the batteries.
  • Nice sunroof.  Does it open by having the glass slide back on top of the car?  That's what it looked like in one of the pictures.
  • More knobs than cup holders!
  • Lots of technology of course and with an optional HUD.  Is that going to seem like a gimmick or one of those "now that I have it I can't live without it" sort of things?

And I bet it gets more advertising than the C-Max did!


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Posted 02 April 2019 - 07:12 PM

What I want to know is the turning radius!  The CMAX wide turning radius diameter of 38.4'  has always annoyed me.

 

The CRV is 37.4'

The RAV4 is < 37.4'

CX5 is 36'

 

There are a number of places I barely make the turn on two lane roads.



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Posted 03 April 2019 - 10:21 AM

I don't see one foot enough of an improvement, maybe a foot and half. :sad:  2019 Escape is 38.8 feet. and 2018 CMAX is 39.4 feet.

 

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 11:37 AM

There is a lot to like on the new Escape but in comparing it to my c-max...

The only things I don't like about the c-max are the ground clearance and turning radius.

If the Escape mpgs are around 38 then I don't really want to go backwards from c-max mpg's of 43 (I get 45).

Not crazy about the caved in sides of the escape either, looks like it got t-boned in the side.


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Posted 03 April 2019 - 12:26 PM

Doesn't seem like a very big battery pack for the hybrid version, although I haven't been able to find the Kwh rating of the C-MAX hybrid to compare.  I guess it makes sense for Ford because they can basically tool up for one car then.  I hope they are just being conservative with the MPG though, I'm certainly going to be shopping around next time.



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Posted 03 April 2019 - 12:37 PM

mpg's would be a problem for me too.  I'm averaging 52 mpg yearly and I'm guessing I'd get maybe 45 mpg in Escape Hybrid although Plugin with 30 miles EV could work around town.

 

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 01:58 PM

There is a lot to like on the new Escape but in comparing it to my c-max...

The only things I don't like about the c-max are the ground clearance and turning radius.

If the Escape mpgs are around 38 then I don't really want to go backwards from c-max mpg's of 43 (I get 45).

Not crazy about the caved in sides of the escape either, looks like it got t-boned in the side.

C-Max EPA combined rating was 40 mpg, same as 2019 RAV4 hybrid.  I would think Ford will try very hard to meet the RAV4 competition which means 40 mpg again, just like the C-Max.  We'll see.  Don't think I like the concave sides either but it sure wouldn't stop me from buying one.

 

Doesn't seem like a very big battery pack for the hybrid version, although I haven't been able to find the Kwh rating of the C-MAX hybrid to compare.  I guess it makes sense for Ford because they can basically tool up for one car then.  I hope they are just being conservative with the MPG though, I'm certainly going to be shopping around next time.

C-Max hybrid is 1.4 kW-hr but we know the "active range" is more like half that amount.  I expect with further engineering and field experience with the C-Max Ford decided that 1.1 kW-hr is adequate - and I could easily believe it.  OTOH, the plug-in Escape is said to be 14.1 versus 7.6 kW-hr on C-Max Energi, almost double.

 

Storage behind rear seats is way up, 34.4 (Escape hybrids) versus 24.5 cu-ft. (C-Max hybrid) and 19.2 (C-Max Energi).  I consider that increase a real plus.

 

OH-NO:  Just noticed that Car and Driver says "In nonhybrid models, the rear seat now slides fore and aft...".  So where is it set on hybrids?  All the way forward to make room for batteries?  So much for having more rear leg room than a Suburban!


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