Jus-A-CMax

Nothing about the screen layout. Infact, they wanted to demonstrate the sync services ala for directions vs the map that we had. I keep forgetting about this service.... Oh...wait...I told them the bevelling on the driver side was stupid..it blocked the entertainment access as my finger literally has to "weave" around the bevel.

Not over reacting, I'll be p*ssed too. Should not happen to anyone....good luck with it Adair :rockon:

This is a Matt thread...if ever there was one.... ;)

Yep, sounds like the Sirius expired. I found the traffic useless anyway, too many false positive....jus my opinion.

Not really trying...just driving and enjoying the peace and tranquility.... :spend: May be, may be not. Jus :airquote: food for thought...

Ok, closing it then...

sdm....when are you putting in your entry for this? You should rise to the top of the pile... :rockon:

New Personal Best... :hat_tip: Tweaked the route a wee bit and tweaked the strategy a wee bit. Beat my last PB by 0.6 MPG...I know...whoopeeedoooo.... :skateboard: & :headspin:

sdm, good question...this was why I raised that 1bar vs 2 bar thread sometime ago and showed the forum my numbers and clearly, at the shut off point, the 2 bar was faster to 35mph and used less fuel. But the1 bar had more battery regen. So....that begs the question of whether the engine breakin has any role to play in this? Since mine is nearly 18,000 now and Matt is above 20,000 and hes a 2 bar user most times (except to regen), like me. Try something out for me...find a quiet stretch of smooth road and do the 1 bar vs 2 bar stretch comparison, used the Trip computers (since you need the 0.xx reading) and see what time, distance and more importantly the gas used. All CMaxs being equal, you should replicate what I got in that thread...

The FORCE is strong with this one

0 to 45 mph in EV is possible, even with the 3.1.3 assuming you have enough SOC. I suspect what is happening here is the 20mph to 40 mph there is a :airquote: lull in the :airquote: momentum sensation (see my thread about the EV driving) that would cause your instincts to kick in ICE. Its painfully slow in EV to hit that speed from zero (god help that person behind you) though and frankly, not efficient imo.

Unbelievable. Yep, send her here. One reason for this thread is that no one has really talked about EV driving and how its feel totally different (see Point 1) and yet, it is crucial to understand so you know how to drive and get good MPG. If you want to drive the CMax like a gas car, stop reading this thread here, its not for you. But if you want do drive 600, 700 or 800 miles city or combo, absorb this and take it out to the road and learn. 1. No I do not use eco-cruise. I know people here say "well..it can control the power much better than a human". Thats true. However, my philosophy is that it cannot know the road you are driving and whats ahead. In a perfect world, all the road will be dead flat, all the lights synced and WALLAH...no need need for a human driver - just eco-cruise. Reality, its not. There is a slow car ahead. That light is about to go yellow. There's a wee hill up there, may be I can quickly pulse up and carry the momentum by EV....get my drift? I did try EV at 35mph and it just sucked the juice out, I felt out of control of the car...and thats not the idea...and I can feather the pedal as good as the eco-cruise and I can decide how much or little power with whats ahead...so what do I gain here? Having said that, eco-cruise at these speed is great for beginners. But do you want to master the car? The only time I eco-cruise is on the freeways or highways. For highways, I use it mainly to build charge and freeways when I know I have a LONG trip and don't want to wear myself out with P&G. See how the strategy changes between city and freeway/highway here? 2. Yeah absolutely - they have this in LA. Sometimes its 8 seconds and sometimes its 20 secs. USE IT - keep an good eye on those pedestrian lights on the side but err on the safe side if you're in between decision to go/nogo. If you drive a route for work, you'll know how to time the lights and either use it to build charge if coming to a stop or pulse to beat the light. City - use your SOC more than "saving it" unless you know there is one really long flattish-downhill grade road that you rather EV on but remember, in city, you have more stop/start that makes you regen so don't save too much charge. Understand your road. :)

As much as we joke about the brake scores, thank goodness you're safe. Don't think you want to be the 1st CMax on the forum for a frontal impact. Go to Church and drop a donation in the box and say thanks ;)

Welcome to the forum, check out our Hybrid Driving Tips and Techniques and Fuel Mileage sections of the forum. The CMax only gets better and better with the miles - think of it like a fine wine, the longer it drives the better it gets. Seriously. :)

Powerpoint...I dunno, this is more work than needs be, no one is getting paid for this and I'm jus sharing my thoughts & experiences cause I've been there and done that, assuming people want me to share my thoughts? ;) I had a great run in today 84.5MPG, personal best. The 2 things I changed today was not burn too much EV on the way home last night so I had jus a wee bit of power to roll down the first big hill in the morning. This will regen the batts and then kick in the ICE warmup after on the flat to regen some more. Also, changed to less use of the 1 bar burn to use a bit more 2 bar quick burn to optimize for the road and traffic, makes no sense when the batts is like 3/5 and there is a slope or red light ahead which I have to stop anyway. For me, these are difference between a high 70s and low 80s. We're talking about 0.01 or 0.02 in gas used....which is why it stumps me why people are so upset if they 47 or low 40s and its literally a squirts or 2 more gas and they really can optimize their EV to possibly get an extra 2-5MPG. We're talking per trip. Per gas tank is a whole different story. Anyway, I'll add or "refine" Post #1 more.

As someone who did 833.8 miles for a tank, alot (79%) of those miles were in EV, so I thought I throw some driving tips for the EV mode. Those who drive City, controlling and managing your EV will give you the MOST MPG as the CMax is just the best car at these speeds. So here goes... Thought 1. Learn to feel the driving in EV. As stupid as that sounds, its the hardest to get use to because it is very subtle and unless you get use to it, it really wants to make you hit it with more gas to get your "surge hit" ala gas engine car. On top of that, there is no sound to give you the auditory cues. Then on the gauge, you see there is a 1 or 2 blue bar and there is this slow momentum building. Get use to it....its different. Thought 2 I like to to always EV from 0 to 10 mph (with traffic) or push it from 0 to 20 mph when there is no one behind me. 0 to 10, EV does a pretty good job as it seems to pretty much keep up with the regular Joe Gas driver on my left. Use 1 EV bar for the 0 to 10 and just trust that its pulling you forward and don't be tempted to hit more EV. Stick with the plan 0 - 10 and then gas it to the street speed limit + 3 mph. Thought 3. EV is better below 45mph. It's like buying a triple Whopper and find you have 6 whopper meat in there, at those speed. Any higher speeds and you're suddenly getting Whopper juniors for the price of the triple whopper. See Thought 4 for battery management. Thought 4. Juicing the max EV is bad waste of good energy. You're wasting the electricity and it won't give you the surge. Use gas if you want to quickly pulse to 45mph as going from 0 to 45 in EV is a total waste of the EV juice unless its down hill. 0-10 mph -> gas to 40mph on 2 bar -> let is regen and glide down to 38mph -> kick in JUS enough EV to maintain 35 mph. When I say "feather" it means you controlling the gas pedal while in EV mode and jus giving it enough to keep a constant speed - watch the speedo and see if you're drifting down or not. Ideally you picked your route so you give it the barest minimum Instant EV (on the instant gauge, it looks like zero power but with a down arrow only showing some drain - if you're really, really good - have a No Up or Down Arrow) and then you know you found the perfect route to take since you're barely burning anything. OK if its 1-5 pixels (1/4 bar). If you have to give it 1 bar EV, then your CMax is telling you the road is uphill - time to find another route. Yeah, I am talking pixels here because thats where you have to have the mindset and "what to look for" if you want to hypermile and maximize your FE driving. Thought 5. Your battery management strategy will change depending on your speed. With freeway, you want to keep the SOC as high as possible (practically like when its 1/2 batt then its time to do pulse or ICE High MPG to recharge to 3/4 SOC) as at those speed, if you think you would use the 1/2 SOC - don't bother, its a waste of effort as it will dwindle faster than taking a dip in a freezing lake. However, at city speeds, you can afford to take it down to the threshold typically 1/3 and you get pretty good running in EV even at this low level. Use the 1 bar ICE pulse to regen. Know this difference, you will EXCEL in the City. Thought 6. This more strategy than EVing but I'll throw it in here. While you're EVing, always keep an eye on the next traffic light and especially the pedestrian light. If its blinking, you know you have 8 seconds to make the light before yellow (this may vary by state). Sometimes, it pays to kick in ICE and get out of EV to pulse past the light...but don't fotomoto it with a 9% brake-scrreeecccchhiinnngggg score it... :drop: . Be safe and make good judgement calls. Don't be stupid and run a red light. Yeah, if you want to maximize your EV driving, give those thoughts a GO. Its free, cost you nothing and have FUN. See you all in the 600+ Miles CMax Club :skateboard: Matt - if you want to add something here ;) Edit: There is no 1/2 bar burn, its a 1 bar burn.

I'd like to hear from others here to see how they tackle these mountains/hills - to see what can be improved....

Crap!!!! I thought I had a new one with 26 today!!!!! Ugh.... :drop:

Cool...in the meantime, feel free to join our many myriads of discussions and fun we have here :)

Well welcome, and thanks for letting us know. Back in the 90s would have been the newgroups...they're still around. Yeah, I have no problem with you posting whatsoever and I monitor most of the threads anyway but as gas pods are controversial, they will always be questions and doubts - which I guess is like water off a duck's back by now. I think mtb is a good candidate for your gas pods, hes been struggling with getting the good MPGs so we shall see how it does. I've been nailing it and right now, still scouring the net to see if these deturbulators really work before plonking any money for it. I get above 60+ MPGs anyway (did 833.8 miles on a tank which still stands for now (c'mon Matt)) and I get pretty consistent MPG daily from my drives to work and back - and I can tell immediately if the MPGs are high or low due to weather, traffic or any other factors and I have ton of stats. Anyway, enough about me...enjoy the forum and I look forward to your input here. :headspin:

Jus say it salsaguy...you need a new CMax and an NEW FRIGGIN phone :spend:

Hey Charles, keep those numbers up and you'll hit the 700 mark....jus sayin ;)

Now THAT IS DEDICATION folks! :congrats: you go to the top of the pile...51.9MPGs :thumbsup:

...ah but what's better :bliss:

Engine breakin. I documented 800 to 12,000 on the odo using the older 3.1.3. Kick in thr 3.5.1 and you're happy as a pig in mud..at least I am :)