Marc Smith

KT. yeah its kinda funny. Residential use of water accounts for less than 10% on average of water use. heck even commercial irrigation (landscape golf) is only about 1% while food production is about 75%. some mind boggling numbers... don't even what to think about how much water is used to make a gallon of milk.. The big "waste" from an agriculture stand point is poor quality irrigation, and "washing" of fruits/veggies, cow, chickens, ect.. a retrofit of irrigation is extremely pricey, and if we don't wash off our food while its undergoing production you run the risk of food borne illness. So while I applaud CA for putting some hard fast limits Ie drawing a line in the sand, so to speak. its not really going to be enough. They are not targeting the prime user/waster of the water. While its nice to paint the picture of golf courses water the turf or homeowners wasting water by taking long showers or washing their cars, the gains to be made are on the industrial/agriculture side of things... http://www.treehugger.com/clean-technology/how-many-gallons-of-water-does-it-take-to-make.html

if a person buys a new manual, and then decides to resell it. no worries.. Autozone- they most likely have purchased the factory manuals or at the very least authorized updates. personally I have access to Alldata... which many shops have purchased subscriptions to.. In theory. since I have access to alldata I could PDF the entire information and offer it for sale. that, however would be illegal... for instance- this DVD would be a legitmate purchase...IMO. its not a pirated copy, and I have to assume that the buyer legally acquired the disc however, this auction http://www.ebay.com/itm/2000-2002-Ford-Complete-Factory-Service-Manuals-Repair-Manual-OEM-/171593554854?hash=item27f3c5dba6&vxp=mtr Would lead me to believe that the owner is burning copies of an original disc from ford or other company, or dumping the data from a program like Alldata and making packaging it so it can be available.... just my 2 cents... that's all... everyone is entitled their own opinions..

I stand corrected on it being a ford owned site...maybe its just sponsored byt the blue oval, or at the very least funded. In either case. this site is a pretty cheap way to learn more about your vehicle... and promoting buying software pirated from the site funder (if the site is funded by ford) seems like a good way to upset a sponsor or make them pull their factory rep from the site... Saying its ford responsibility to ensure that their product is not used illegally is tantamount to saying its Ford fault that they make a car that can exceed the posted speed limit and as such when you get a ticket for speeding you can blame them....

not to be a downer... but being this is a ford sponsored site, should we be talking about buying pirated copies of the ford service manual...

I like the back up sensors as well. for me when its solid tone I have 12" to go... Still wish I had the camera, but I learned to backup using mirrors and turning my head so as long as theys till work I'm OK Seems its going to be a lost art in the near future.. :)

then a SEL 301a is what I have... oops...

No it doesn't.... it depends on which package SEL you got whether or not you got a BU camera. I have an SEL I think its a 302 package with no BU camera, but I do have the back up sensors It would be nice if the wires were in place... I think the only way to check if the wires were in place is to take a part some of the interior rear hatch...

in all honesty, you' really not supposed to try to park in a diagonal spot pointing the other direction. go to the end of the street whip a U and then park. but also a three point turn isn't hard to do. Pretty amazing the people WE elect.

62... I have zero actually less than zero knowledge about audio systems... I just have acess to alldata for digrams and such. so thats why I jumped in the thread...

The diagrams are from ALLDATA on the way

if you need the wiring diagrams shoot me a PM with you email and I'll get you the PDF

bought my 2013 used about a year ago. have put a little over 10K miles. its the SEL but no NAV car has only seen the inside of the dealer shop for the Seat back recall. Otherwise 100% trouble free. just did a 2500 hiway trip from Dc to florida and back. averaged 40mpg... fulle loaded up cruising between 65-75. Nav is nice. but U've been using my iphone with blue tooth enabled for my maps/directions. with the holder right were the CD slot is. well with in reach, and close to a power cord. don't be afraid to look further away for a deal on a car. I drove nearly a hundred miles to mine. you might be able to find a used 2014 demo SEL or a deal loaner car for cheap. I agree with the others though in that buy what you want. power seats, leather, ect. no fun getting in a car every day that you compromised on...

the frustrating part, that the size limitations isn't the roof line, but the hatch opening. Maybe if the hatch had an opening similar to that of a doge magnum..

cold showers, very refreshing when its 100* outside... not so much when its 15-20* and when you are conserving water while showering with a significant other... cold water causes "shrinkage" not very conducive to a fun atmosphere.. :) we are a family of three one being a teenager, and my folks come visit from time to time... so cold water or lukewarm water. is not really an option... I'm doingmy part. two hybrids, and 90% of my home is lit with LED lights... High seer furnace/ac unit... low e glass in house...

30x30x62 Adrian, I have been looking at tankless and have been considering.. but the difference in yearly operating was only $40... the flow rate was very low as well to get that high efficiently rating. While a tankless may show a higher flow of 9-10gpm, it needs to burn hotter which burns more gas, so to be more efficient it flows slower. so no more than one shower at a time... plus, it only guarantees a 35* temp increase. which means in the winter time our shower may only get to 85-90* and there are other drawbacks on both sides of the equation. I have a maintenance closet which houses my Furnace and hot water heater, so any space savings is moot as I would not intend to store anything in the vacated space. too many drawbacks right now... IMO to go tankless...

box got hauled away today but when I get home I'll measure the dimensions of the hatch openening. pretty much floor to ceiling with about 2" on either side to spare. and from the back of the front seat to the back edge of the carpet... I think someone elsy got a washer/drier in side the c-max...

I almost took my wifes saturn since its a smidge larger... I'm glad the cardboard would "give a little" otherwise it would not have fit..

Steve, I agree that the Cmax is a European design... http://carleasingmadesimple.com/business-car-leasing/ford/c-max/turning-circle/ the British C-max has a turning circle of 11 meters kerb to kerb... or about 33 feet... which is smaller than the posted at cars .com... ?????

Navy. I asked the same question.... here was my response Dear Mr. Smith, Vehicles that qualify for clean special fuel plates are approved by the Environmental Protection Agency. Once they notify DMV, the vehicle list is updated, DMV doesn't make the determination. I hope this helps. Thank you for visiting www.dmvnow.com.

my wifes Saturn Vue turns like a bus... my HHR and Prius felt much easier getting into the garage than the C-max and drivinga round the parking garage at work the C-max feels larger than it is in tight parking lots.... this is one failing that US car makers seems to have that our european bretheren have mastered...the tight turning radius... http://www.cars.com/ford/c-max-hybrid/2013/specifications Vue 20 Cmax 19 HHR 18 Pruis 17..

The e-races were pretty neat... yeah the F-1 cars are not as loud as they once were... but the racing is still enjoyable...(getting up at zero dark thirty to watch live Not so much)

Well Sometime Saturday my hot water heater gave up the ghost and wifey did not notice until 2am when she went downstairs to a squishy carpet... So off to home depot. for a new 50 gallon hot water heater... the gate would not close but was only about 4" from latching

here is the data from my trip south in ten minute incriments 800+ miles eco cruise set to 65, a few breaks, fuel, naps, food, ect no AC no pulse glide. trop started at 340pm Wed and ended 1030 am thursday if anyone wants the the full excel for the tip down with data ever 5 seconds PM me...and I'll email... Time air speed trans coolant rpm Wed Feb 25 15:41:53 EST 2015 46 21 110 124 0 Wed Feb 25 15:50:04 EST 2015 46 55 119 178 0 Wed Feb 25 16:00:33 EST 2015 46 64 133 196 1839 Wed Feb 25 16:10:03 EST 2015 48 66 141 199 0 Wed Feb 25 16:20:11 EST 2015 48 66 145 194 2454 Wed Feb 25 16:30:03 EST 2015 50 24 147 187 0 Wed Feb 25 16:40:03 EST 2015 52 35 149 181 2337 Wed Feb 25 16:50:03 EST 2015 52 23 152 181 1984 Wed Feb 25 17:00:03 EST 2015 48 66 154 196 0 Wed Feb 25 17:10:03 EST 2015 50 65 154 198 2045 Wed Feb 25 17:20:03 EST 2015 48 57 154 198 0 Wed Feb 25 17:30:03 EST 2015 48 66 154 196 1873 Wed Feb 25 17:40:03 EST 2015 50 66 155 198 1951 Wed Feb 25 17:50:02 EST 2015 48 65 155 196 2023 Wed Feb 25 18:00:08 EST 2015 46 65 152 187 0 Wed Feb 25 18:10:03 EST 2015 46 66 150 196 1875 Wed Feb 25 18:20:03 EST 2015 46 66 148 194 1922 Wed Feb 25 18:30:03 EST 2015 46 65 148 196 2151 Wed Feb 25 18:40:01 EST 2015 45 66 147 198 2042 Wed Feb 25 18:50:01 EST 2015 45 65 146 190 2303 Wed Feb 25 19:00:01 EST 2015 46 62 146 194 0 Wed Feb 25 19:10:01 EST 2015 45 65 147 194 2025 Wed Feb 25 19:20:01 EST 2015 45 65 146 194 2062 Wed Feb 25 19:30:03 EST 2015 45 65 148 199 2046 Wed Feb 25 19:40:03 EST 2015 43 65 147 196 2203 Wed Feb 25 19:50:03 EST 2015 43 65 146 189 2241 Wed Feb 25 20:00:03 EST 2015 43 65 145 194 2132 Wed Feb 25 20:10:03 EST 2015 41 65 144 190 2312 Wed Feb 25 20:20:03 EST 2015 39 56 142 196 0 Wed Feb 25 20:30:03 EST 2015 36 52 138 185 1874 Wed Feb 25 20:40:03 EST 2015 36 62 137 185 1990 Wed Feb 25 20:50:28 EST 2015 36 67 135 187 2044 Wed Feb 25 20:58:36 EST 2015 36 0 132 171 0 Wed Feb 25 21:43:10 EST 2015 36 0 116 126 0 Wed Feb 25 21:50:00 EST 2015 39 66 119 185 2141 Wed Feb 25 22:00:00 EST 2015 37 66 127 194 2142 Wed Feb 25 22:10:00 EST 2015 37 65 131 194 2139 Wed Feb 25 22:20:00 EST 2015 39 65 132 187 2217 Wed Feb 25 22:40:10 EST 2015 36 66 129 185 2213 Wed Feb 25 22:50:04 EST 2015 37 66 130 196 2304 Wed Feb 25 23:00:19 EST 2015 39 66 134 199 2353 Wed Feb 25 23:10:00 EST 2015 39 66 136 198 2424 Wed Feb 25 23:20:05 EST 2015 39 66 137 201 2146 Wed Feb 25 23:30:04 EST 2015 41 65 139 199 2017 Wed Feb 25 23:40:25 EST 2015 41 66 140 198 2112 Wed Feb 25 23:50:00 EST 2015 41 66 141 194 2256 Thu Feb 26 00:06:00 EST 2015 46 65 137 196 2988 Thu Feb 26 00:10:02 EST 2015 43 65 137 194 2528 Thu Feb 26 00:20:02 EST 2015 43 65 136 194 2134 Thu Feb 26 00:30:02 EST 2015 43 65 138 187 2427 Thu Feb 26 00:40:02 EST 2015 45 65 140 194 2160 Thu Feb 26 00:50:07 EST 2015 45 65 139 196 2310 Thu Feb 26 00:56:12 EST 2015 46 0 0 181 0 Thu Feb 26 04:50:50 EST 2015 66 0 80 118 1500 Thu Feb 26 05:00:00 EST 2015 41 66 104 187 900 Thu Feb 26 05:10:35 EST 2015 43 67 124 194 2076 Thu Feb 26 05:20:10 EST 2015 43 66 134 194 2015 Thu Feb 26 05:30:00 EST 2015 43 66 140 192 2264 Thu Feb 26 05:40:01 EST 2015 43 66 142 196 2081 Thu Feb 26 05:50:01 EST 2015 45 66 145 196 2054 Thu Feb 26 06:00:01 EST 2015 45 66 147 194 2107 Thu Feb 26 06:10:00 EST 2015 45 66 147 194 2241 Thu Feb 26 06:20:01 EST 2015 46 66 148 194 2066 Thu Feb 26 06:30:06 EST 2015 48 66 149 196 2017 Thu Feb 26 06:40:01 EST 2015 48 66 150 196 2070 Thu Feb 26 06:50:01 EST 2015 50 66 151 198 2087 Thu Feb 26 07:00:06 EST 2015 50 65 151 196 3009 Thu Feb 26 07:10:01 EST 2015 54 66 153 198 2069 Thu Feb 26 07:27:40 EST 2015 54 0 153 174 0 Thu Feb 26 07:30:00 EST 2015 54 0 153 167 0 Thu Feb 26 07:41:44 EST 2015 54 15 153 135 1494 Thu Feb 26 07:50:01 EST 2015 55 66 153 199 2181 Thu Feb 26 08:00:01 EST 2015 55 66 153 199 898 Thu Feb 26 08:10:01 EST 2015 57 62 153 192 2722 Thu Feb 26 08:20:01 EST 2015 57 65 153 199 2325 Thu Feb 26 08:30:02 EST 2015 57 54 153 196 0 Thu Feb 26 08:40:06 EST 2015 59 63 153 198 1946 Thu Feb 26 08:50:16 EST 2015 61 0 153 176 0 Thu Feb 26 09:00:01 EST 2015 63 65 153 196 1962 Thu Feb 26 09:10:01 EST 2015 61 16 153 194 0 Thu Feb 26 09:20:01 EST 2015 63 46 153 192 0 Thu Feb 26 09:30:00 EST 2015 63 48 153 180 2014 Thu Feb 26 09:40:00 EST 2015 64 65 153 199 2774 Thu Feb 26 09:50:00 EST 2015 66 0 153 190 0 Thu Feb 26 10:00:10 EST 2015 70 42 153 192 2362 Thu Feb 26 10:10:01 EST 2015 66 30 153 187 0 Thu Feb 26 10:20:01 EST 2015 70 52 153 196 1986 Thu Feb 26 10:27:15 EST 2015 70 0 153 172 0