Marc Smith

nice point on the red lines disappearing. never seen the red lines disappear on any of my fillups... any idea on yoru average speed... thats one thing I miss about the prius, it showed average MPH...

way to go.....you could make Orlando in one tank....

From april -august I golf pretty regular. I have a sun mountain cart which I keep attached to the bag. lay it on its side with one side of the rear seats folded down. clubs point to the back of the drivers seat. I wish the rear storage area under the floor was more spacious. in the prius I kept two pair of shoes, spare towels, spikes, extra balls, and gatorade. My clubs are Cleveland Hybore. Full set from 2 iron to wedge are hybdrid style clubs. So easy to hit. Bizarre that I play better early in the season...no bad habits I guess...

tobe honest, I can't remember the last time I needed coins... around here they have the ezpass, and all the parking meters take credit cards now, or mobile phone apps... Eve, you make a good point. when I had to clean out the prius before they towed it away. it was amazing how much crap I pulled out of the car.

WOW way to go...

love the door caverns... and the glove box is huge. just not convenient from the driver side. the center console is nice but a bit awkward to reach into while driving. I will say that the center console will keep a water bottle somewhat chilled when the AC is on..

longest drive I've been in the cmax is 8 hours... its not a bad saddle to be in..... but I've been in much more comfortable saddles and faster, for a lot loss sticker price...but not nearly the mileage...

Kelly, I assume that edmonds used a professional driver to wring the cars out, or got their data from another reputable source like car/driver road/track, ect. but the slalom and skidpad numbers don't lie. Iwould imagine the c-max being a bit heavier and taller is what hurt it. My prius(2010 iv with 40K miles) never felt flighty, loose or unstable at highway speeds. I was able to merge fine with traffic at highway speeds. are you able to stab the gas the and make the car go....no. you had to plan your acceleration, no different the than c-max... 0-45 numbers are the numbers that most people will have to do on a day to day basis, a right turn on red from a standing stop trying to shoot the gap in traffic........ Is the prius or the c-max designed to be a cross country luxo barge or a drag strip queen? no... they are cars designed to get you from point a to point b, safely, using as little fuel as possible. How we define whats safe is to each their own...

some spec numbers for those who care... from edmonds.... Gen 3 prius hatch Power to weight ration 26lbs per HP 0-45 mph (sec.) 6.3 0-60 mph (sec.) 10.1 0-75 mph (sec.) 15.4 1/4-mile (sec. @ mph) 17.3 @ 79.7 0-60 with 1 foot of rollout (sec.) 9.7 Braking, 30-0 mph (ft.) 30 60-0 mph (ft.) 118 Slalom, 6 x 100 ft. (mph) 59.7 Skid pad, 200-ft. diameter (lateral g) 0.78 C-max hybrid power to weight 25lb per HP 0-45 mph (sec.) 5.3 0-60 mph (sec.) 8.1 0-75 mph (sec.) 11.7 1/4-mile (sec. @ mph) 15.9 @ 88.9 0-60 with 1 foot of rollout (sec.) 7.7 Braking, 30-0 mph (ft.) 33 60-0 mph (ft.) 134 Slalom, 6 x 100 ft. (mph) 62.6 Skid pad, 200-ft. diameter (lateral g) 0.75 Heck the prius stops better, slaloms faster and has higher G rating on the skid pad... which means its a better handling car than the c-max... It just lacks a little in the get up and go department...

Snow, with that logic we'd all be riding around on 50 cc scooters. since we rarely need the extra space.... :) but we want the creature comforts...

487 Miles 251 EV 44.5 mpg Indicated 10.93 gallons indicated 42.3 mpg Calculated 11.5 gallons pumped

nice clean mod... I did the German Euro Headlights on of my Gm cars. Much better light distribution. Being I did most of my driving at night. Well worth the investment...Seeing at ninthe dark in important. Is there a way to adjust the lights left/right... the up down distribution is good. but I'd like to widen them up a bit...

before anyone gets the idea. I'm not trolling...I would love, borderline being orgasmic, if I could get MPG indicated in the 47 range. I am very happy with what I'm getting(see fuelly below). but would love to get more (duh) with the prius getting the ICE up to temp was paramount to good MPG, and getting battery warmed up helped as well... I had about 6 months with the Prius before it was totaled (purchased in january totaled in may). had a grille blocker, car was garaged... always ran in ECO mode...So I am still running in "prius mode" so to speak.... C-max is the same. garaged, no blocker....yet... I have some fiberglass, epoxy and tools, so the lower grille maybe removed to make mold for a custom blocker. My commute... first 1/2 mile is up hill 200', then 1/2 mile down 200' then up 100' for 2 mile then from a stop light hard on the gas to merge 0-55 for 3 miles. then stop. then meandering hills for up and down 50-100' for 3 miles. 4 miles for 45, then down hill 300' for 2 miles at 35 and then 3 miles At 40 level... the commute home is the reverse. based on the GPS my average speed is 25-30... I know the hill climbs hurt, and the 0-55 to merge really hurts...by the time I get to work by battery is empty...so on the way home I start with zero juice... I do not use the cruise control in my daily commute.... I have done several trips, and on my trips I have used the eco cruise and I love it... I wish all cars used had an "eco cruise" of sorts. Ie not hard on the gas when the speed drops 1mph below the desired speed... yeah I know I referred to the car as an appliance, and folks hearts skipped a beat.. sorry...... and to be honest I do love cars. My Impala SS was set up for road courses, but was also a daily driver It has turned many laps at Summit Point, Sebring, and Road Atlanta (full roll cage and 5 pt harness with a trailer for race tires). I had gone to tech school to rebuild the Gm 4L60E auto trans and had a spare trans in my garage and did tranny swaps at least once a year... Heck I was almost hip deep in buying materials for a "LoCost" had the welder and my eyes on a donor car. My current desire is a RHD Works Mini Cooper from the 70's but my desire to build boats is a bit stronger(and cheaper) Currently, my life revolves around getting to work with the occasional side trip (to play with my boats) up to 400 miles each way. The c-max is far and away much more "fun" to drive the prius, and far and away much better than the Saturn Vue Green Line. If I felt the Nissan Leaf would suit my needs or the Plug-in-(insert anything) I would (not a volt, as GM and I don't get along, why I have a saturn is another story altogether). Heck I'd buy a tesla in a heartbeat, but I don't have $70Kburn. :) I am really glad that I got the C-max over the Prius v I was looking at (fit, finish, age, warranty)...and I'm not upset about the mileage (still waiting for my check though) I get in the car, open the garage door. back out and drive to work, my phone links up, blue tooth streams pandora...I don't expect to get 50mpg... I'm happy with the 44 that I'm getting. I'd love to get more... but I don't see that happening until I really alter my habits or do some mods.....

nick, no doubt I'm sure if i was more patient, and let the car warm up fully before driving, and if I was was willing to not use the AC in the summer, and if I was a bit better at anticipating the crappy traffic patterns, and if I don't want to get run over by folks doing 10+ over the limit, and if I didn't have to do 200'+ hill climb a couple times on the way to work and home, if I was a bit more careful at not keeping up with traffic... I'd get closer to the original 47 and beyond... I'm still striving for the 600 mile tank, without having a gas can in the car just in case....Been close a few times but always chicken out. as i'm not willing to walk :) I just found it easier to get the higher mileage in the prius, but then it was a prius, lighter, smaller engine, more slippery body, it should be easier....right... :) It will be interesting to see how my mileage gets in the winter time... no matter, its Still going to be twice as good as the chevy HHR I had before the prius. Plus I'm only 8 tanks deep in the C-max. Potentially still a learning curve on my end. I like the car for what it is.... an appliance to get me to and from work, is comfortable , reliable, fuel sippy, and still have space for my hobby stuff. and as a benefit, none of the "prius hate" on the road from other drivers. As you mentioned, getting the most out of the mileage... is not all car.... it the loose nut behind wheel...:)

Jeff, my prius was a '10 trim level iv before the tree fell on it.... in my commute of 18 miles. 5 of it is highway speed the rest is 25-35mph stop and go. my average speed was about 25. Yeah the econ button made driving tedious. but all it did was was remap the fuel curve. WOT was still WOT ( the hampsters will only run so fast) IMO its trying to teach better driving habits. kinda like our brake coach. Is the cmax more fun to drive...yes, bigger engine, better suspension and low profile tires all help. I'm sure there are plenty of other cars that are more fun to drive than our c-max. I guess if I really wanted to have fun driving, i never would gotten rid of the 66 mustang or the Impala SS... You want to a drive a really pathetic "hybrid" saturn vue green line. uhg... I think the prius is faster off the line... There are a few thing about the ford that i would change... But I think everyone has their wishes. and they are all different...

I have been reminded on several occasions by the "honk" that Ieft the car on.. but to drone on about prius vs c-max The problem is that ford was trying to sell the cmax as a prius killer or at the very least an equal on mileage. They lost that battle even when trying to compare it against the v Of course the Cmax is going to have better acceleration its got a bigger engine. Keep in mind that most folks don't buy a hybrid to have mind blowing acceleration or sportscar handling, while spending less than 30K. For a compact car the prius was acceptable on both counts. Interior fit on the prius was better than the cmax, but the material quality was lesser on the prius. a four year old prius with 40K miles had zero squeaks and rattles, while a ford with half the age and half miles has gotten annoying. (glad I have the radio volume turned up) I will say that with my gen3 prius exceeding the original advertised MPG ratings was much easier. With the new MPG (42/37) ratings the C-max is very easy to exceed the MPG ratings, but getting 47(original) is difficult I know some folks do it but with oil pan heaters, and grill blockers. I loved the EV switch on the prius. I love the driving position on the c-max as it more "suv esque" and upright if that makes any sense. I wish the cmax made better use of the rear cargo area the prius had much more useful under the floor storage space., and the ford has the stupid bungee nets...(wtf) IE lots of lost usable space... The Cmax should have had a foot pedal e-brake and a better center console And lets not even get into resale value...The ford falls flat here. Keep in mind that while you may plan "drive your cmax into the ground" and you don't care about resale. If you ever get into an accident that results in the vehicle being totaled...you are going to get screwed...

yeah not like they could not find any space to put an access panel under hood... ;)

I got a 15mpg drive will curl your toes... 683 bellview road on the map.. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Vienna,+VA+22182/@38.9602683,-77.2463051,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x89b6499a28882ca7:0xee243f36a4af0ed9 while on the map it may not look too interesting... here is the profile. hills off camber curves basically a lot of hard on the gas and hard on the brakes. its only two miles..but loads of fun so long as you get stuck behind someone driving a prius :)

548.4 miles 12.11 gallons indicated 45.2 MPG indicated 12.7 Gallons Actual 43.2 Calculated forgot to write down ev

just had my worst fill up. ;) 576.3 miles 315 EV 12.96 gallons (indicated) 44.4 mpg (indicated) 13.7 gallons pumped 42 mpg calculated gauge was "below" red Ie all the red bars were gone... only .3 gallons (in theory) remaining... here is my commute altitude profile...Better mileage going too work

mine has the DRL's but they are not automatic... you need to turn them on... so its got manual DRL but automatic headlights.... genius....

don't be too quick to take it back. I had some smudges on my 3m as well. it cleared up well within a couple weeks. Also after a week hit it with some vinegar/water cleaner. my only complaint about my installer was the amount of soap/water spots on the dash from doing the windshield tint strip

isn't gas tank only 12.9 gallons?

...........drivers side is perfect. passenger side not so much...it almost like it was designed to have a gap...

I would imagine that if you got pulled over in another state for window tint, you'd be able to easily argue that your car is legal in the state its registered in and you'd also be able to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the cop is being a huge prick...