grege Posted September 4, 2023 Report Share Posted September 4, 2023 https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2018/MC-10148717-9999.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grege Posted September 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2023 old tsb above. updated: https://www.tsbsearch.com/Ford/22-2396 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestead Posted September 4, 2023 Report Share Posted September 4, 2023 So does this mean that 2016-2018 trans are starting to fail too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacienega Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 I would like to know why some fail and some not...regardless of year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestead Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 Also would be nice if we knew what the real failure rate is for each year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grege Posted December 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2023 Welp, it's disappointing but not unexpected. Now our 2017 cmax energi titanium (owned since new) with only 52,000 miles has just finished eating its transmission. 2018 titanium tranny toasted around 36,000 miles first and today 2017 energi titanium toasted at 52,000. Nice job, FORD. Greg Lacienega and CMaxPDX 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stolenmoment Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) sigh and my 2013 Energi tranny is going strong. The suspension, on the other hand, needs replacement. Badly. But it's had ten years of bad roads, so there you go. Edited December 27, 2023 by stolenmoment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depmodealex Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 On 12/22/2023 at 2:48 PM, grege said: Welp, it's disappointing but not unexpected. Now our 2017 cmax energi titanium (owned since new) with only 52,000 miles has just finished eating its transmission. 2018 titanium tranny toasted around 36,000 miles first and today 2017 energi titanium toasted at 52,000. Nice job, FORD. Greg I took my car in for a transmission fluid change and the tech noticed my transmission was leaking, so he claimed that I said that it was slipping and rough and used the TSB to repair my transmission at no cost lol. I didn't pay a cent. Lacienega 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwood Infrared Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 On 2/2/2024 at 11:38 PM, depmodealex said: I took my car in for a transmission fluid change and the tech noticed my transmission was leaking, so he claimed that I said that it was slipping and rough and used the TSB to repair my transmission at no cost lol. I didn't pay a cent. That's a nice trick - what was your mileage and warranty status at that point? My 2015 has just over 100,000 miles and the tranny has been noisy for a while but of course right after it rolled over 100k the noise increased by a lot. It's so bad at this point that every time I start the car it whines so loud I'm afraid it's going to grenade right there in the driveway. With the cost of a new tranny running about what the resale value of the car is at this point I'm guessing we're going to just have to replace the car soon. It really does appear to me there are enough of these tranny failures it ought to be a recall item. What happens next will determine whether I ever own another Ford or not. This is my wife's car and I need it to be as trouble free as the 2010 Prius I drive. It's got twice the miles on it and has never given me a lick of trouble, most reliable vehicle I've ever owned. I'd like to keep the C-Max and was hoping to get 200,000 miles out of it but if a new tranny is going to cost me more than the car is worth we're headed for the Toyota dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jestevens Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 My 2013 is still good at 137K but I've changed driving styles to highway now, so I guess we'll see.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grege Posted February 26 Author Report Share Posted February 26 Cars and repairs have gotten so expensive now, warranties need to keep pace by increasing as well. There is no reason (other than greed) that warranties should not be extended to 7-10 years and 120-150,000 miles standard. Manufacturing and reliability has improved (in general), so should vehicle protections. Out of pocket costs have become exorbitant. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr08 Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 On 2/26/2024 at 4:09 PM, grege said: Cars and repairs have gotten so expensive now, warranties need to keep pace by increasing as well. There is no reason (other than greed) that warranties should not be extended to 7-10 years and 120-150,000 miles standard. Manufacturing and reliability has improved (in general), so should vehicle protections. Out of pocket costs have become exorbitant. Greg I know some are allergic to anything political related these days, but time to write your congresscritters and probably can't hurt to write to the CARB as well (California Air Resources Board. They have a LOT of pull as well with this kind of stuff and arguably keeping more cars on the road longer without being financially totalled and scrapped is beneficial to overall air quality/emissions/etc..). About the only way you're getting that done. I agree 100% though that the basic 'bumper to bumper warranties' need to be increased to combat the higher repair costs especially as more safety features are mandated (something I'm personally all for but I do understand and sympathize with the added cost arguments). Or maybe something that would be more feasible is enforce a dedicated warranty for said safety features that goes to that 5-10 year/100-150k mile area). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stolenmoment Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 The car companies are panicing because EVs have much lower repair costs than ICE vehicles, so they see the dealer+shop incomes drop accordingly, and they're reworking the warranties to keep them profitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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