ceemax71 Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 May 08 2014 4917 -Announcing Safety Recall 14S04 DEMONSTRATION / DELIVERY HOLD - Safety Recall 14S04: Certain 2013-2014 Model Year C-MAX and Escape Vehicles - Reprogram Restraints Control Module. Advisory detailsOn certain vehicles, due to a defect in the restraint control module programming, deployment of the side curtain airbags may be delayed in certain rollover circumstances, which could increase the risk of injury to vehicle occupants. Correction: Dealers will reprogram the restraint control module. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kostby Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 Trying to get a handle on build dates, our C-MAX SE with a build date of April 11, 2013 does show the Outstanding Field Service Action when the VIN is entered at www.etis.ford.com. 14S04 - REPROGRAM RESTRAINTS CONTROL MODULE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill-N Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 Goes back to 8/20/2012, at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestead Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 It also shows up for my Feb 2013 SEL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveofDurham Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 And Nov 13, 2012 too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dweiser Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Ah, a new day, a new recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Flood Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 It shows up for our August 2013 C-Max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timwil56 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 It shows up for my Feb. 2014 Energi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudenHoggart Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 I also get the recall message using ETIS. Does anyone have any information about when dealers will be ready to handle this problem, and approximately how long the fix should take? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsteblay Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 I have 3 outstanding recalls on ETIS ... 13C07 - RECONFIGURE INSTRUMENT PANEL CLUSTER (IPC) MODULE14C03 - FRONT SEAT BACK FRAME REPLACEMENT14S04 - REPROGRAM RESTRAINTS CONTROL MODULE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArizonaEnergi Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 My 9/1/13 car is also showing this recall. I'm not too concerned about this one, having driven cars for 45 years without side curtain airbags, so will wait until my first oil change/tire rotation (free at the dealer) to get this done, unless further information changes my urgency index. C-MaxSea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kostby Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) Update Just received a link to the 'official' notices from NHTSA this morning. Here are links to the documents you can read for yourself http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs/jaxrs/download/doc/UCM455145/RCAK-14V237-2760.pdfhttp://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs/jaxrs/download/doc/UCM454933/RCDNN-14V237-3577P.pdf A few excerpts copied from the (Ford) second document: 573.6 © (2)- Potentially Affected VehiclesVehicles potentially affected are certain 2013-2014 model year Escape and C-MAX vehiclesequipped with Safety Canopy System ™, and built at the Louisville Assembly Plant (LAP) fromOctober 5, 2011, to February 14, 2014, and the Michigan Assembly Plant (MAP) fromJanuary 19, 2012, to February 24, 2014, respectively. These vehicles are not produced in VIN order. Information as to the applicability of this action tospecific vehicles can best be obtained by either calling Ford's toll-free line (1 -866-436-7332) orby contacting a local Ford or Lincoln dealer who can obtain specific information regarding thevehicles from the Ford On-line Automotive Service Information System (OASIS) databaseThe information for the supplier of the Restraints Control Module (RCM), that is the subject ofthis defect report, is provided below. Restraints Control Module:Robert Bosch, LLC15000 Haggerty RoadPlymouth, Ml 48170Christer Jansson(734) 979-4730Country of Origin: Mexico 573.6 © (3)- Estimated Population of Vehicles Potentially AffectedApproximately 594,785 vehicles in the United States and federalized territories are potentiallyaffected.573.6 © (4)- Estimated Percentage of Affected Vehicles with the Defect Condition100%. 573.6 © (5)- Description of the DefectThe Restraint Control Module (RCM) supplier inadvertently reversed polarity in the low-g, Z-axis(vertical axis) sensing configuration file. This sensing parameter is utilized in the deployment ofthe Safety Canopy System™ on the 2013-2014 Escape and C-MAX vehicles. As a result, thedeployment of the safety canopy may be delayed in certain rollover circumstances, potentiallyincreasing the risk of injury.No warranty, customer complaints, or injuries have been reported to date as a result of thesubject condition.2 ATTACHMENT573.6 © (6)- Chronology of Events January 2014: During development of a forward model program, the RCM supplier engineeringteam detected a reversed polarity in the low-g, Z-axis sensing configuration file. Fordengineering was asked to determine the safety effect of the reversed polarity on vehiclesequipped with the Safety Canopy System TM. February-March 2014: Ford analyzed and evaluated the design and determined that while it wasfully compliant with all regulatory and Ford internal full-vehicle testing requirements, in certainrollover test scenarios, the effect of the reverse in polarity could be that Z-axis accelerationmight not be sufficient to deploy the safety canopy as quickly as intended. April 2014: Even though all regulatory and Ford internal dynamic full-vehicle testingrequirements were fully met, on April 28, 2014, Ford's Field Review Committee reviewed theconcern and approved a field action to reprogram the RCM to design intent. --- 573.6 © (8)- Service ProgramOwners will be notified by mail and instructed to take their vehicle(s) to a Ford or Lincoln dealerto reprogram the RCM to the latest level. There will be no charge to owners for this service.Mailing of owner notification letters will occur the week of May 26, 2014. Notification to dealerswill occur on May 7, 2014.In accordance with Part 573.13(d)(1 ), Ford is excluding reimbursement for costs incurred byowners for repair of this concern because Ford's original warranty program would provide for afree repair for this concern for customers. Edited May 10, 2014 by kostby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaDadMiami Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) Even though all regulatory and Ford internal dynamic full-vehicle testingrequirements were fully met, on April 28, 2014, Ford's Field Review Committee reviewed theconcern and approved a field action to reprogram the RCM to design intent.This, to me, is the most important part to which I pay attention, because it says something about Ford. These days, in the race to the top, manufacturers end out introducing products at a fast rate and with the newer technology, sometimes (okay, more often than just sometimes) with issues resulting. Not that I am saying to just forget about these instances, but my concern is about how manufacturers and dealerships handle them after they become known. GM recently had the incident with the ignition switches, a reportedly known issue about which they did nothing for a long time. Toyota had the sudden acceleration issues that were said to be known but pushed off. Ford has also had its share of issues with the C-MAX: lower than reported fuel economy, kickgate requiring two kicks, MFT, dead battery issues, etc. Okay, some of these--the battery issue, in particular--have not been fully resolved. On the other hand, Ford voluntarily paid money to those affected by the fuel economy issue, and Ford reprogrammed the vehicle to address the issue. (I am not saying that lawsuits or publicity did not play a role a role in this decision. However, Ford also did not stonewall by making denials for years.) Ford worked on the solution for the kickgate, and then took care of that. MFT continues to get updated and improved, and they have extended the period for warranty and updates, to address the issue. Ford found out about the seat issue, and they stepped up on that issue, even though there have not been many reports about it. I feel pretty good about working with a company that handles mistakes well. Sure, I'd prefer not to have the mistakes in the first place, or to at least have many less mistakes. However, these things happen. It's what comes next that counts the most, right behind not having too many mistakes in the first place. Edited May 10, 2014 by ScubaDadMiami Jus-A-CMax, C-MaxSea, salsaguy and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtb9153 Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Maxus build date of late August 2012 is included, why couldn't they have announced this last week while she was getting 22.5k service at the dealer and they reconfigured the instrument panel cluster (IPC) module ? Now I have to take it back after they finally could schedule me in. Last service they were booked a week and a half in advance. Frontier Ford is floundering in service repairs right now. Duh! I wonder why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salsaguy Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Does this mean that they ##won't## pay for it if you take it on to fix it? I'm confused. I hate legal-ese Update Just received a link to the 'official' notices from NHTSA this morning. In accordance with Part 573.13(d)(1 ), Ford is excluding reimbursement for costs incurred byowners for repair of this concern because Ford's original warranty program would provide for afree repair for this concern for customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salsaguy Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 So if my wife and I go car shipping now they won't let us test drive them until all their inventory is fixed?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemyax Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Z axis? I can't imagine getting slammed in the Z axis. Surely the X or Y would blow the airbags first anyway. :headspin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timwil56 Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 I took mine in today and it took 34 minutes from the time he checked me in, until the time the work order was closed. ScubaDadMiami and hybridbear 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotelie1970 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 My my, I received Recall 14S04 in the mail today that was mailed in June and when I went online to Owner.Ford.com there is no recalls shown for my car. Doesn't Ford's left hand know what its right hand is doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestead Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Had our car reprogrammed this week. It only took 30 minutes and 14S04 has already dropped of the fordetis site.The service guy said "it took it the first time" so maybe some cars have to be reprogrammed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljeast Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 I took my Energi in Friday. Picked it up Saturday and it ran fine. Plugged it into charge, but this morning I got a flashing overhead light in the back seat and the display is dead and No Start... :cry: I know I have to call Roadside Assistance, but was wondering if anyone anyone else has had issues when getting an update? Is there anything I can do? 2013 C-Max Energi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdiesel1 Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 Sounds like the dealer killed the battery and jumped started it, but never properly charged the 12V battery. Or else,your 12V battery it bad and should be replaced. I've seen this happen a lot. They leave the doors open or the keyon, only to discharge the 12V battery and jump start it to get it out of the shop. Now you're stuck with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdiesel1 Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 Had our car reprogrammed this week. It only took 30 minutes and 14S04 has already dropped of the fordetis site.The service guy said "it took it the first time" so maybe some cars have to be reprogrammed.Yeah, they all do :noobie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordService Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 I took my Energi in Friday. Picked it up Saturday and it ran fine. Plugged it into charge, but this morning I got a flashing overhead light in the back seat and the display is dead and No Start... :cry: I know I have to call Roadside Assistance... Going back to the dealership is a great next step, ljeast; be sure to come back and tell us what you find out. I'll be here if you need me to jump in and help. Crystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestead Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 homestead, on 25 Jul 2014 - 11:31 AM, said:Had our car reprogrammed this week. It only took 30 minutes and 14S04 has already dropped of the fordetis site.The service guy said "it took it the first time" so maybe some cars have to be reprogrammed. Yeah, they all do :noobie:Maybe I didn't say that clearly. I took what he said to mean not all the reprogammings are successful andthey must rerun it until they get a successful reprogram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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