Maximum is 38MPG - City

[salsaguy]

If Ford had set up the car and correct screens(as per owners here on the forums)  as default to help owners understand and MAX-imize (it's called a c-MAX not a c-MIN after all right??) their mpegs and this ownership experience then there would be alot less disgruntled customers and negative reports.

Folks who design the screens and menus need to talk to the folks who know hybrid tech all they are on the same path and help the user focus on mpgs the hybrid way.

 

Of course most just want to push the button and drive and don't care but they assume it's automatic to get good mpg without driving properly (not crazy)

The spread of mpg data proves there are hybrid folks and non hybrid driving folks

And yes dealers need to better educate customer on the car/tech, not the other way around.

 

 

As for those talking about low mpgs on short trips, yes absolutely unless the car is warmed up fully for at least 7-10 miles or 15 mins you will never see good mpgs. Add a/c use to a cold start and short trip...you're asking for trouble.

The Energi was meant for short  commutes, not the hybrid. Someone bought the wrong car if you thought you can get good mpg just driving 4 miles to work with a hybrid, since it uses gas engine in the beginning to get it warmed up.

:(

Try opening the window instead of a/c for a few trips to compare mpgs and you'll see it climb higher.

 

 

 

 

Paul, I think you are spot on - as we have all guessed, a significant portion of owners make little or no effort to understand the vehicle in order to take full advantage of its Eco-engineering; perhaps 10, 20, 30.......%???  Certainly it is OK, taking only 'half advantage' (default mode for most drivers) which aint bad at all at 38MPG; and driving in full fun mode occasionally, perfectly fine; but just a little sad.  We all understand the failings of the dealers too in educating the buyers;  but in their defense, the salespersons/dealers have only a couple cracks at helping the buyers.  I would be curious what their braking score was on that car.  nick
 
PS  I still would like to see some coaching opportunities offered by the dealers.
 
My hypothetical: http://fordcmaxhybridforum.com/topic/2976-coaching-tech-sessions/
 
PSS  The Force is With you '38ers', EVe that is: http://fordcmaxhybridforum.com/topic/2962-the-force-is-with-you/

[salsaguy]

Just buy Jusacmax a plane ticket to Florida and there you go he will train (whip her into submission) her how to drive it properly but the issue is if she had a Durango as the previous car those bad habits won't be easy to change/break. Not gonna happen.

It's not an suv bit she drives like it is.

Even with the incentive to save money she doesn't care to want to learn.

It's a lost cause.

After reading this thread I'm starting to think our C-Max will have a Jekyll/Hyde personality -- when I drive it I'll get great mileage and my lead foot wife (despite her claims to the contrary) will bring it back down (since she'll drive it the majority of the miles we aren't likely to ever average a good MPG).

 

Even now I get about 5-6 MPG better than her driving our Durango -- she's always complaining about putting gas in and yet I can drive it for weeks while she's gone to visit the grandkids and never have to fuel up.  Some people just don't have the touch.  Or, in her case, the patience (when I ride with her she always drives fast right up to the next stop light and then slams on the brakes.  Sigh).

 

Too bad I can't find a driving class that would teach her the techniques I learned WAY back in the 80's (when all the State workers took a course to help get better mileage out of the state vehicles we drove).  Back then we could get nearly 30 MPG out of vehicles with V8 engines that were never designed to get more than 15 MPG normally.

[ptjones]

Just buy Jusacmax a plane ticket to Florida and there you go he will train (whip her into submission) her how to drive it properly but the issue is if she had a Durango as the previous car those bad habits won't be easy to change/break. Not gonna happen.

It's not an suv bit she drives like it is.

Even with the incentive to save money she doesn't care to want to learn.

It's a lost cause.

Should of got the Energi a  little hard to screw up the MPG's for the first 20mi. LOL :)

 

Paul

[Kelleytoons]

Why buy HIM a ticket here?  Central Florida is the number 1 tourist destination in the world -- he should pay ME to stay here (which he's welcome to at our house.  We'll even let him swim in the pool).

 

I did turn on the Coach display this morning before she left for work.  I told her it would yell at her if she got it wrong (that's what we really need -- a stern, disapproving voice when you get anything other than good marks).

[ptjones]

Why buy HIM a ticket here?  Central Florida is the number 1 tourist destination in the world -- he should pay ME to stay here (which he's welcome to at our house.  We'll even let him swim in the pool).

 

I did turn on the Coach display this morning before she left for work.  I told her it would yell at her if she got it wrong (that's what we really need -- a stern, disapproving voice when you get anything other than good marks).

As things go I'm going to be in Deltona probably within a week or so if you're interested. LOL :)

 

Paul

[Kelleytoons]

If you find yourself in the Orlando area please do stop on by (we have a 9' HD screen to watch movies after our swims, so if you and your significant other want to have some fun we can accommodate you <g>).  While I am kidding I am also serious -- at least about the hospitality (you don't even have to show my wife how to drive: even *I* wouldn't wish that daunting a task on anyone :>).

[banditb17]

I once had a professor who promised to present a graph of test grades vs. number of homework problems turned in.

 

In the end, he announced that he would not show the graph because the correllation was negative; i.e. the students who had turned in the fewest homework problems tended to earn higher test scores than the ones who had turned in more problems..

 

The professor was mystified by this result, but it made perfrct sense to some of the high scorers who explained that the homework problems were really hard (and there were too many of them, and they were repetitious) and that those of us who took the time to learn and understand a few of the problems simply did not have the time or energy left to do even most of the problems.  On the other hand, many of those who turned in all of the problems were more interested in completing the assignment than in actually learning anything; so they did a hurried and cursory job, which did not help them deal with getting the right answers on the test problems.

 

As a person who is a D- student that always aced all of my tests, I love this right here. 

 

 

 

After reading this thread I'm starting to think our C-Max will have a Jekyll/Hyde personality -- when I drive it I'll get great mileage and my lead foot wife (despite her claims to the contrary) will bring it back down (since she'll drive it the majority of the miles we aren't likely to ever average a good MPG).

 

 

I am in the same boat. I don't see myself ever making the 600+ Miles club because I actually force my wife to drive the C-Max to save the family money.

Edited July 16, 2014 by banditb17

[ptjones]

You Guys are right and My wife is the same but she doesn't drive my car. LOL  I have solution for you, there should be a setting for improved economy(drive like a Prius) LOL :lol: :lol2: :shift:

 

Paul

[fbov]

Now is when I miss Laurel...

[salsaguy]

Hope she doesnt figure out how to turn it off.

she prob wont even bother looking at it

one can only hope

:)

Why buy HIM a ticket here?  Central Florida is the number 1 tourist destination in the world -- he should pay ME to stay here (which he's welcome to at our house.  We'll even let him swim in the pool).

 

I did turn on the Coach display this morning before she left for work.  I told her it would yell at her if she got it wrong (that's what we really need -- a stern, disapproving voice when you get anything other than good marks).

[salsaguy]

Now THAT is CMax hospitality folks.

only on this forum....you guys rock

such a warm bunch here

so nice and friendly compared to most forums on the net

would be cool for sure if you could make it happen

and let him drive your cmax just to see what kind of numbers he could get out of it just to prove a point :)

If you find yourself in the Orlando area please do stop on by (we have a 9' HD screen to watch movies after our swims, so if you and your significant other want to have some fun we can accommodate you <g>).  While I am kidding I am also serious -- at least about the hospitality (you don't even have to show my wife how to drive: even *I* wouldn't wish that daunting a task on anyone :>).

[fordfan82]

Guy from the Ford relationship center told me instead of resetting the MPG average every time you fill up, he said only reset the trip part and let the mpg go a few trips and then reset it and you should see MPG improve since the computer can only track a few trips at a time.