ptjones Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) Post Your Life Time MPG's, Total Miles, EV miles, Regen miles and Brake Score. Should be able to graph info and come up with some useful information. Here are my two Data points: Brake = Brake ScoreEV = EV milesRegen = Regen milesTotal = Total miles PT Jones LT MPG 50.6, Brake: 97%, EV: 125,817 Regen: 10750 Total: 236,458 EV%: 53.0% , City%: 22Used CMAX LT MPG 37.3, Brake: 92%, EV: 2504.7 Regen: 335. Total: 6,782.2, EV%: 37.0%, City%: ??DaveofDurham LT MPG 43.2, Brake: 92%, EV: 12,950, Regen: 2,356 Total: 30,952 EV% 41.8%Plus 3 Golfer LT MPG 41.2, 92%, 9,389.6 828.5 19,264 48.7%Marc Smith LT MPG 44.8, Brake: 95% EV: 11,652 Regen: 1534 Total: 24,000 EV% 48.5% City 46%homestead LT MPG 45. EV 5,664 582 54,250 EV% 53.5%kostby LT MPG 40.8 98% 752.2 87.1 1816.9 41.4% City 43%C-MaxSea LT MPG 48.2 Brake: 98% EV: 4516 Regen: 491 13,000 EV% 55.7% City 30%TheXym LT MPG 40.8 93% 11,255.1 Regen: 1,518.1 Total: 22,165 50.8%marshtex2 LT MPG 45.2 94% EV: 6574 595 12,452 EV% 52.8%HannahWCU LT MPG 47 97% 19,506.7 1,831.3 43,339.1 EV% 45% City 29%MichaelM LT MPG 41.4 95% 15,483.5 1,018.9 47,512.9 32.6%cgul LT MPG 48.9 95% 1,5014.4 1,130.2 24,828.2 EV% 60.4%mtcmax LT MPG 37.6 95% 2,620.5 Regen: 191.6 7,351 EV% 35% Jus-A-Cmax LT MPG 51.7 96% 25,540.9 2847 49,700 56% City 64%wnuk LT MPG 49.5 97% EV: 5850 855.5 9819.7 EV% 59.6%SnowStrom LT MPG 48.5 95% 50398.5 1243 120269.5 41.9%HPRifleman LT MPG 46.4 BKS 99% EV: 13,591 Regen: 580 Total: 33,440 EV% 40.6%fbov LT mpg 40.7 96% 16,065.2 512.2 38398.8 41.8% Tom LT mpg 40.8 BKS 96% EV 8,852 Regen: 4736 16,997 52%Recumpence LT MPG 50.2 96% EV 58592 6700.6 96499.8 61% City 80% Scotwood LT MPG 48.3 30,121.6 mi.78Pinto LT MPG 42.4 Total: 49,000mi. City 20%Tom LT MPG 40.7 BKS 97% EV 16507 Regen: 1923 29089 mi. EV%56 I will add new Post # when Posted on thread :) Paul Edited October 20, 2019 by ptjones C-MaxSea and Jus-A-CMax 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveofDurham Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Paul - Are you sure that you have included all our your regen miles? When I had update 13B07 done in July 2013, my lifetime regen miles counter got reset from 825 regen miles back to 0. Right now I have 30952 total miles, 92% lifetime brake score and 1531 (on the counter now) + 825 (on the counter before 13B07) = 2356 lifetime regen miles. You have 65,000+ total miles, 98% brake score and only 2038.1 regen miles. You have posted about several very long highway trips, but I would expect that you would have more regen miles over 65,000+ miles than I have over 30,000+ miles. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveofDurham Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Full set of stats for my car Lifetime MPG 43.2, Brake Score 92%, EV miles 12,950, Regen miles 2,356 and total miles 30,952 EV% of total mi. 41.8% [Regen % of total miles 7.6% and Regen % of total EV miles 18.2%] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptjones Posted July 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Paul - Are you sure that you have included all our your regen miles? When I had update 13B07 done in July 2013, my lifetime regen miles counter got reset from 825 regen miles back to 0. Right now I have 30952 total miles, 92% lifetime brake score and 1531 (on the counter now) + 825 (on the counter before 13B07) = 2356 lifetime regen miles. You have 65,000+ total miles, 98% brake score and only 2038.1 regen miles. You have posted about several very long highway trips, but I would expect that you would have more regen miles over 65,000+ miles than I have over 30,000+ miles. DaveYou are right, unfortunately I didn't get a LifeTime pic at that time they did the update so I guessed with my last LT pic in Feb 2013 with 525mi Regen and Sept. 1, 2013 117.6mi Regen mi. so I think I had 875mi. which added to my current rounded off to 2900mi. :) FORD hasn't made it easy to figure out with 2014 don't even have LifeTime. :drop: At least we have a start. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plus 3 golfer Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) Paul, I recall asking you about your regen miles in another thread. Also, if you want to do any meaningful analysis one needs to make sure the total mileage is at the mileage from the PCM update not the odometer total mileage or last manual reset of the lifetime summary whichever is later. My lifetime summary was reset at the PCM update in July 29, 2013 with 8108 miles on the car (shown on the Dealer Service Order). Currently, I have 27372 miles on the car. So my data is as follows from July 29, 2013: Total Miles since PCM udpate: 19,264EV Miles: 9,389.6EV% of Total: 48.7%Regen Miles: 828.5MPG: 41.2Brake Score: 92 My thoughts on trying to compare / analyze the data: 1) one significant piece of data not available is average speed (preferably average moving speed). 2) climatic conditions will affect the data, one may want to separate the data by geographic region as a start 3) regen miles is supposedly all regenerative energy including braking and coasting somehow converted to miles. Brake Score supposedly is the % of actual energy captured over the available energy that could be captured presumably by braking to a complete stop. Given the relatively small % of regen miles vs total miles and that braking regen is a part of the regen miles, I would expect a few tents of a mpg difference for brake scores between say 86 - 98 vs my actual FE with a brake score of 92. 4) there are other data like driving style, mods, terrain and average distance per trip and so forth that will affect results. Edited July 17, 2014 by Plus 3 Golfer ptjones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptjones Posted July 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Paul, I recall asking you about your regen miles in another thread. Also, if you want to do any meaningful analysis one needs to make sure the total mileage is at the mileage from the PCM update not the odometer total mileage. My lifetime summary was reset at the PCM update in July 29, 2013 with 8108 miles on the car (shown on the Dealer Service Order). Currently, I have 27372 miles on the car. So my data is as follows from July 29, 2013: Total Miles since PCM udpate: 19,264EV Miles: 9,389.6EV% of Total: 48.7%Regen Miles: 828.5MPG: 41.2Brake Score: 92 My thoughts on trying to compare / analyze the data: 1) one significant piece of data not available is average speed (preferably average moving speed). 2) climatic conditions will affect the data, one may want to separate the data by geographic region as a start 3) if regen miles is supposedly the percent of available energy that could be captured converted somehow to miles, 4) there are other data like driving style, mods, terrain and average distance per trip and so forth that will affect results.You have some good information there. I checked my numbers and the only thing reset was Regen miles. Apparently the Technician had options on what to reset.Regen only appears to have a significant effect on mileage if you are in stop and go or city driving all the time. I think there is a correlation between speed and EV miles and like you said weather can have a drastic effect on MPG's. You could look at your Mileage for each season off of Fuelly. Thanks for the help. :) Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptjones Posted July 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I was just thinking that your Fuelly City/Hwy percentage could also factor in the numbers. Mine are 82% HWY/18%City :) Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hybridbear Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 You have some good information there. I checked my numbers and the only thing reset was Regen miles. Apparently the Technician had options on what to reset.Regen only appears to have a significant effect on mileage if you are in stop and go or city driving all the time. I think there is a correlation between speed and EV miles and like you said weather can have a drastic effect on MPG's. You could look at your Mileage for each season off of Fuelly. Thanks for the help. :) Paul The technician didn't choose, the software programming sent by Ford engineers chose what to reset. Because of this fact I reset my Lifetime at the time of doing the PCM update. I'm curious to see what you find out for data for this! ptjones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptjones Posted July 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 I was hoping there would be more participation so we good get some useful info about our CMAX's. I guess now our cars are only EPA rated at 43city, 37Hwy and 40mpg combined and most members are doing that so MPG's aren't that important. So as long as FORD doesn't find out that I'm averaging 52mpg :shift: I should still get my check. LOL :lol: :lol2: Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheXym Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 (edited) I will post mine after I'm in the car again, but ballpark is 40.8 mpg (winter in NE PA was not kind, my wife does NOT drive it like a hybrid when I'm not in the car). Almost 23,000 miles, of which almost 12,000 are EV. I try to hypermile when I can, but my work commute is about 2 miles one way which doesn't help. Also, the 2nd day I got it last July, we followed an ambulance for about 130 miles at almost 85 mph due to an emergency with a family member, which I'm sure didn't help the break in. (She is fine now). It was about 42,3 before the winter, since it started warming up in April it's come up from 37.6. My last tank was 46.7, would have been higher, but my wife took it on a trip with the kids. Edited July 20, 2014 by TheXym ptjones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptjones Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 I will post mine after I'm in the car again, but ballpark is 40.8 mpg (winter in NE PA was not kind, my wife does NOT drive it like a hybrid when I'm not in the car). Almost 23,000 miles, of which almost 12,000 are EV. I try to hypermile when I can, but my work commute is about 2 miles one way which doesn't help. Also, the 2nd day I got it last July, we followed an ambulance for about 130 miles at almost 85 mph due to an emergency with a family member, which I'm sure didn't help the break in. (She is fine now). It was about 42,3 before the winter, since it started warming up in April it's come up from 37.6. My last tank was 46.7, would have been higher, but my wife took it on a trip with the kids.I will add them to my when you get all the numbers, Thanks. Did you install Grill Covers and Oil Pan heater? It's worth 4-5mpg in winter and 2mpg during the summer. :) Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheXym Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 I have not done any mods yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptjones Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 I have not done any mods yet.Then MPG's will only get better when you do. :) Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Smith Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 well not that this will mena much... I reset everything whenI bought the car @ 11,900 miles... currently have 14467 miles. so 2567 miles driven by me... my lifetime now shows 1362 EV miles238 regen44.5 mpg93% brake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptjones Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 well not that this will mena much... I reset everything whenI bought the car @ 11,900 miles... currently have 14467 miles. so 2567 miles driven by me... my lifetime now shows 1362 EV miles238 regen44.5 mpg93% brakeThanks Marc, every Post is another Data Point. You should be ashamed of yourself for beating EPA. CR and Fuelly averages, what were you thinking? LOL :happy feet: :lol: :lol2: :shift: Great Job! Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Smith Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 if I remember correctly it was showing lifetime mpg of 40 or 41.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestead Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Here is mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testdriver Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Thanks to a horrid Michigan winter, we're at only 40.1 MPG lifetime. We did just return from a 400 mile trip and ended up with 46.2 mpg. About 300 of those miles were at about 72mph on the freeway with little stop and go traffic. I thought that was pretty darn good. ptjones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptjones Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Here is mine.lifetime.pngThanks for help, Good Job! Thanks to a horrid Michigan winter, we're at only 40.1 MPG lifetime. We did just return from a 400 mile trip and ended up with 46.2 mpg. About 300 of those miles were at about 72mph on the freeway with little stop and go traffic. I thought that was pretty darn good.Post a Pic of your Life Time. :) Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kostby Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 I really hesitate to post this.Makes it seem like our C-MAX really DOES get just 40mpg average, and that's just not true. Lifetime fuel use is only 40.8 mpg Historical note: The car showed a lifetime fuel use of 19.7 when we purchased it with 133 miles on it in late March.The dealer is just a few blocks from the John Force drag racing teams headquarters in Brownsburg, IN. I think ours might have been a test mule ;) ptjones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptjones Posted July 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I really hesitate to post this.Makes it seem like our C-MAX really DOES get just 40mpg average, and that's just not true. Lifetime fuel use is only 40.8 mpgIMG_5284med.jpg Historical note: The car showed a lifetime fuel use of 19.7 when we purchased it with 133 miles on it in late March.The dealer is just a few blocks from the John Force drag racing teams headquarters in Brownsburg, IN. I think ours might have been a test mule ;)It will only keep getting better. 98% Brake Score, I thought maybe I was an anomaly. LOL Keep up the good work. :) Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-MaxSea Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) Odometer: 8257 m'Lifetime': 8100+- mEV: 4516 (55.7 %)Regen: 368 + 123 = 491 (6.1%)Brake Score: 98%MPG Gage: 48.2MPG Pump: 46.8approx. 70 % 'Highway' We swear by the 'blue' (EVe) & cheat !(Purge the blue 'forever with a feather', & treat the ICE well ..... like ice, handle it with speed and minimally !)(Oh, and avoid the 'double burn' (Ice & battery combined for acceleration) like a plague - unless showing off your 0-60 time :secret: ) :love_shower: :love_shower: :love_shower: our C-Maxhttp://fordcmaxhybridforum.com/topic/2962-the-force-is-with-you/ Edited July 23, 2014 by C-MaxSea Jus-A-CMax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptjones Posted July 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Good Job, You are making EPA and CR look bad, What were you thing? LOL :happy feet: :lol: :lol2: Paul Jus-A-CMax and C-MaxSea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheXym Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Sorry about the delay in posting actual numbers. Total miles: 22165EV miles: 11255.1Regen miles: 1518.1Brake Score: 93%40.8 mpg I don't know how to paste pics from an ipod touch. Jus-A-CMax and ptjones 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshtex2 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 My White Hornet's lifetime numbers on 7/23 say:MPG 45.2ODOMETER 12452EV MI 6574REGEN MI 595BRAKE SCORE 94% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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