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I have sinned...vent bezel reflection issues


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#1 OFFLINE   armoredsaint

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:23 AM

You know the brushed chrome bezel around the left driver's side airvents - well during certain times of the day the reflection is so bad it basically obscures my left outside and convex mirror.

 

So I took a flat black paint marker and covered it up, 1000% better. Yeah it's really ghetto :finger: , but it's a company owned car that I take home and all that (I'm in Medical Device Sales).  :shift:

 

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#2 OFFLINE   fotomoto

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 08:10 AM

Yeah, I've had the same issue primarily with the left one; right is OK.  I hoped window tint would solve it and it did reduce it some but not enough.  I might go the plastic dip or vinyl route in case the company owner (me) doesn't like it.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 08:32 AM

Yeah, I've had the same issue primarily with the left one; right is OK.  I hoped window tint would solve it and it did reduce it some but not enough.  I might go the plastic dip or vinyl route in case the company owner (me) doesn't like it.

 

 

now the only thing reflecting is the left instrument cluster, the brush chrome bezel too.



#4 OFFLINE   JimInSeattle

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 11:29 AM

So, if I lived where there is ever sun, I guess I'd have to worry about that...


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 12:03 PM

I hate those reflections too.  Glad to hear the paint worked but would prefer some kind of walnut burl overlay!  Shucks, an all wood dash would be even better.  Love wood - even more than snow.  At some point that chrome has got to go.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 06:19 PM

Doesn't bother me.  Good tint with glare reduction and polarized sun glasses.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:24 PM

I've got a good window tint and polarized sun glasses and the reflection/glare drives me batty.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 02:19 PM

I just put the first trip of any length on my new Energi and I found this to be the only issue I want to address as soon as possible.

I'm going to take it up with the dealer, but I'm hoping I don't need to resort to the paint marker. Thanks for posting your solution, however.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 04:43 PM

i have been happy to report it's been terrific, no more blind spots from the reflection.


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Posted 28 June 2013 - 10:28 AM

As a word of warning, window tint will NOT solve this problem. It will make the problem worse!

Plasti-dip does lessen the severity of the problem slightly, my wife and I have learned, but not really a whole lot, and so we peeled the dip off.

 

What helps the most seems to be keeping your windows and mirrors as absolutely clean as possible. Seriously, that helps more than plasti-dip.



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 12:06 PM

As a word of warning, window tint will NOT solve this problem. It will make the problem worse!

Plasti-dip does lessen the severity of the problem slightly, my wife and I have learned, but not really a whole lot, and so we peeled the dip off.

 

What helps the most seems to be keeping your windows and mirrors as absolutely clean as possible. Seriously, that helps more than plasti-dip.

How do you figure that?  My tint has a 55% glare reduction in it.



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 12:45 PM

The tint we put on our windows seems to reflect internal shininess even more than the bare glass did.

Perhaps we purchased the wrong tint? :-/

 

We used Diamond/Sun Guard/Solamatrix, whichever of those name is more useful. It does an admirable job of blocking heat, but a terrible job of preventing reflections off those chrome vents.



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:09 PM

The tint we put on our windows seems to reflect internal shininess even more than the bare glass did.

Perhaps we purchased the wrong tint? :-/

 

We used Diamond/Sun Guard/Solamatrix, whichever of those name is more useful. It does an admirable job of blocking heat, but a terrible job of preventing reflections off those chrome vents.

That could be.  Tinting was one of the first things I got done, so I don't have a good comparison before and after.  Maybe it's the direction and times I drive, but I just never have a problem with reflection.

 

I have 3M crystalline.


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Posted 29 June 2013 - 11:45 PM


what % tint do you have in the 3M crystalline and what do you think of it? I live in New York and we have a very restrictive tint law--70% visibility. it looks like nothing and no one really offers it except 3M. but I'm hoping it offers enough heat rejection at that level to help keep the car cooler. I don't know anyone else who has it. most people here chance it and get darker tint, but I don't like that idea. it's a chunk of money so don't want to do it if there's no payoff.

Edited by pomtrey, 29 June 2013 - 11:46 PM.


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Posted 30 June 2013 - 01:55 AM

if you spot a cop just hit the window down button on either your side or opposite side or both to let in light. most won't pull you over for just tint, they have to get you for speeding or something else first and then they add on the tint issue if  tthey notice. some tint places have ticket protection so if you do get a ticket for the tint they will redo the tint job for free or 50% off after you prove to the police you had it removed (since they cite you with a "fix it ticket" like when your light is out.) but even if you have to get the lesser tint any will be better for looks and to reduce hatred and heat than none. i agree that the 3M is the best to go with. had it on 2 cars now. luckily i never got cited. i just pay attention and keep a look out for the fuzz :)


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Posted 30 June 2013 - 08:46 PM

My dealer did the tinting before purchase.  So, I don't know which they used.  I suspect that it is 3M, but I don't know enough to tell.

 

I deal with sun that is pretty relentless, and I haven't noticed anything with glare reflections.  I have not doubt that others are having an issue.  I just can't account for it not being an issue for me.  Maybe it has something to do with the position of the driver's head relative to the glare, such as taller, seat more forward or back, and the like.



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 12:42 PM

To illustrate the problem, for those unfamiliar with it, I took these two pictures yesterday, literally within a second of one another. I was in the passenger seat at the time, as you can see, but the view is the same from the driver's position. I've leaned to the left within my seat, and oriented my phone to simulate the driver's view. The sun was off to our left, low in the sky, and very bright.

 

First, here is the car in shade, as we pass a tree on the left, thus blocking the sun's rays...

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Notice the presence of a car in the mirror, just behind us! Remember that this next picture is taken literally one second later. If you look carefully, you can recognize the exact same buildings outside. The same car is still in that same position. See if you can find it.

 

This is after we passed the shade of the tree, thus allowing the sunlight to pour in again...

 

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The mirror has been rendered practically useless by the extreme reflection off the vent in the (tinted) window. And as you can see, it's not just the shiny bezel either; it's the whole vent. This is why Plasti-Dip didn't solve the problem for us, and why I frankly don't think anything will. We're just going to have to get used to it.


Edited by CarpeNivem, 02 July 2013 - 12:53 PM.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 12:56 PM

what % tint do you have in the 3M crystalline and what do you think of it? I live in New York and we have a very restrictive tint law--70% visibility. it looks like nothing and no one really offers it except 3M. but I'm hoping it offers enough heat rejection at that level to help keep the car cooler. I don't know anyone else who has it. most people here chance it and get darker tint, but I don't like that idea. it's a chunk of money so don't want to do it if there's no payoff.

40 on the sides and 70 on the front windshield.
 
For reference, the performance info: http://multimedia.3m...rmance Data.pdf
 
And a picture of what it looks like:
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I got tint before the summer heat arrived, so I really don't have a before/after comparison. I need to find a thermometer as I want to do some tests about parking north vs south, etc.  When it's 116 outside (like last weekend) you need all the help you can get.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 01:06 PM

Oh, and our tint is pretty dark. It's 15%.

 

As you can see above, it's not blocking any incoming light, because in this case, the light is coming through the windshield. If anything, the tint is just making the windows more susceptible to interior reflections. Although, we had the tint done almost immediately, so I don't really know what the vent reflections looked like before. Anyway, they're pretty terrible now.


It does look great from outside though. =)

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Edited by CarpeNivem, 02 July 2013 - 01:08 PM.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 01:21 PM

The mirror has been rendered practically useless by the extreme reflection off the vent in the (tinted) window. And as you can see, it's not just the shiny bezel either; it's the whole vent. This is why Plasti-Dip didn't solve the problem for us, and why I frankly don't think anything will. We're just going to have to get used to it.

 

Yeah, I think your particular tint is adding to the effect.  I have "regular" window tint and I can only see the chrome outline of the vent in my left window reflection (the worse of the two).  Now with nearly 4 months of ownership under my belt, I rarely notice it.  The mind can be very powerful at tuning things out.  My wife who is over 1/2 foot shorter and sits closer to the wheel has never mentioned it and being that she is very OCD I haven't brought the subject up for fear of giving her something else to obsess over!   :hysterical:

 

 

The flatter the windows the more reflective they become.  We had a Nissan Cube that had darn near perfectly flat windows that had severe reflective qualities.


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