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#21 OFFLINE   JohnTrigger

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 01:39 PM

Additional confirmation that there is no update yet for MFT for the battery/electric vehicles (like CMax) comes from the community board on syncmyride.com.  Yesterday, the moderator updated the response to the thread on the new 3.5.1 update that now says

"Fusion Hybrid, C-MAX Hybrid, C-MAX Energi, and Focus Electric will be subject of a future announcement" [...of an update]
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http://boards.syncco...syncmb&tid=6366









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#22 OFFLINE   Jus-A-CMax

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 03:06 PM

3.5.1 is out there for other Fords, not the CMax, not yet at least.  Hopefully eventually we'll get it or another update (as 3.5.1 doesn't seem to be the most stable either from other forums on other Fords).

 

 

Powered by Microsoft

 

...bringing back memories, as tragic as they were those days  :hysterical: 

 

 

 

 

Found this article.  Assuming it is true, an update to the hybrids will be in the "1st quarter of this year", whereas it says everyone else with Nav will be updated by this month (as has been reported elsewhere)

http://www.usatoday....h-sync/1734133/

Can't come soon enough, lets hope they keep their schedule.



#23 OFFLINE   RedLdr1

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 06:48 PM

I was just at the dealer this morning getting an oil change and asked about 3.5.1's availability.  The Service Adviser showed me the on-line info from Ford's service software stating it would be in the first quarter.    Look at the bright side, since the non-BEV vehicles already are doing the "Beta" test maybe it will be somewhat debugged by the time our version comes out... :)



#24 OFFLINE   Jus-A-CMax

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:52 PM

They can test on me.... ;) 



#25 OFFLINE   wamba2000

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 08:12 PM

Be careful about applying updates....someone who shall remain un-named ( me) was on the Sync website and downloaded and installed a Sync update.  Only later, after it was no longer working, did I realize it was an update for Sync, not for Sync with My Ford Touch.  Ooops!  That's what happens when you do not read thoroughly.

 

A Master reset and things are back to normal, thankfully!!

 

Had the worst problem syncing my phone with the newly reset Sync.  Found out you have to delete Sync from your phone and power off, removing the battery.  When the Sync finds the phone and generates the Bluetooth code, you say Find Other and then search for the phone, it sets it up as a totally new device rather than attempting an old connection.

 

I really am better at following directions, but messed this one up.  Word to the wise...



#26 OFFLINE   RedLdr1

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 08:34 PM

They can test on me.... ;) 

 

They will be for as long as you own your C-Max..... ;)


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Posted 12 February 2013 - 09:15 PM

 
They will be for as long as you own your C-Max..... ;)
 
ZING!!!!

#28 OFFLINE   Jus-A-CMax

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 12:43 AM

  
ZING!!!!

 

Ping! I knew that was coming, it could not be any worse than now. Oh no crash today after that reset last night, lets see how long this will last. GPS is in the mud again. 

 

 

PS I think we're all on the testing platform, 1st Gen hybrid CMax, lots of issues for sure. You know what they say about never, ever buying a first gen car...and that went out the window with the cassette player  :sos: 


Edited by Jus-A-CMax, 13 February 2013 - 12:45 AM.


#29 OFFLINE   RedLdr1

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 12:59 AM

Ping! I knew that was coming, it could not be any worse than now. Oh no crash today after that reset last night, lets see how long this will last. GPS is in the mud again

 

I couldn't resist, I spent too long working with, around, or against MS products in the Telecom industry.... ;)  

 

 

PS I think we're all on the testing platform, 1st Gen hybrid CMax, lots of issues for sure. You know what they say about never, ever buying a first gen car...and that went out the window with the cassette player  :sos: 

 

 

And you are correct, we are all effectively "customer beta sites" as early C-Max adopters, I knew that going in to the deal and since I have a good dealer I'm not worried... 



#30 OFFLINE   Adair

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 01:23 AM

Ping! I knew that was coming, it could not be any worse than now. Oh no crash today after that reset last night, lets see how long this will last. GPS is in the mud again. 

 

 

PS I think we're all on the testing platform, 1st Gen hybrid CMax, lots of issues for sure. You know what they say about never, ever buying a first gen car...and that went out the window with the cassette player  :sos: 

I did not learn that lesson. :doh: This is my 3rd 1st generation car. I bought an Opel GT (look it up, it looked like a mini-Corvette) from GM the first year they came out and boy was that a LEMON!  :censored: I even painted lemons on it and drove it around Atlanta for about 9 months, til the dealership owned up to the problems, sorta, and fixed them. That cured me for a while..... Lots of used cars in between.... Then I bought my Jeep Liberty in 2001 (2002 model year) and I totally loved that car, except for the gas mileage. But I feel like I was a different person driving the Jeep. :shift:  Now, here I am with yet another 1st gen car. This one has the potential to be the best one yet



#31 OFFLINE   valkraider

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 01:28 AM

MFT has been out since 2011. It has nothing to do with the C-max being new in the US.

MFT had terrible reviews long before the C-max came to the states.

The version of MFT which came with the C-Max is actually the third iteration. We are not early adopters.

The C-Max platform has also been out in this current version since 2010. So we are also not early adopters in that regard.

The only thing that is new really is the hybrid power train - and even that borrows heavily from the previous Escape and Fusion hybrid platforms.

The transmission is brand new and of course the plug-in Energi is also a new concept.

#32 OFFLINE   RedLdr1

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 06:05 PM

MFT has been out since 2011. It has nothing to do with the C-max being new in the US.

MFT had terrible reviews long before the C-max came to the states.

The version of MFT which came with the C-Max is actually the third iteration. We are not early adopters.

The C-Max platform has also been out in this current version since 2010. So we are also not early adopters in that regard.

The only thing that is new really is the hybrid power train - and even that borrows heavily from the previous Escape and Fusion hybrid platforms.

The transmission is brand new and of course the plug-in Energi is also a new concept.

 

Hmm...I disagree.    When I purchase a vehicle that has not been sold in the North American market before, that was modified from its European version for its sale here, in its first model year, with a new power train, I think that qualifies as an "early adopter".   And since MFT is vehicle line specific, as evidenced by Rev 3.5.1 not being able for hybrids but shipping for others, that is also in "early adopter" territory....but not as much as the C-Max.

 

I do agree MFT had a well deserved bad reputation before this Version, it has killed Ford's JD Powers Quality results. 


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#33 OFFLINE   Jus-A-CMax

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 06:29 PM

I did not learn that lesson. :doh: This is my 3rd 1st generation car. I bought an Opel GT (look it up, it looked like a mini-Corvette) from GM the first year they came out and boy was that a LEMON!  :censored: I even painted lemons on it and drove it around Atlanta for about 9 months, til the dealership owned up to the problems, sorta, and fixed them. That cured me for a while..... Lots of used cars in between.... Then I bought my Jeep Liberty in 2001 (2002 model year) and I totally loved that car, except for the gas mileage. But I feel like I was a different person driving the Jeep. :shift:  Now, here I am with yet another 1st gen car. This one has the potential to be the best one yet

 

Way to go Adair....now where's the pic? That would be priceless  :drool: 



#34 OFFLINE   valkraider

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 06:43 PM

MFT is not as "vehicle specific" as you may think. The delivery of the updates is phased in because dealerships don't want every customer all coming in at the same time and overwhelming their service department which usually only has one or two guys trained on MFT.

The delay in the vehicles with NAV systems is also not model specific, it is due to the manufacture and availability of the updated NAV SD cards.

The C-Max is a global platform. Not as much as you think was "changed" to bring it to North America. The whole point of the global Platforms is to make cars one way around the globe to minimize differences and therefore minimize part differentiation and knowledge sets needed to build and service the cars.

For the past 3 years I have worked on computer systems in the automotive industry. They certainly are not making a separate version of MFT for each model - just like there is not a different version of iOS for each iPhone or a different version of Windows for each desktop PC.

Now of course small differences may exist due to minor changes in equipment. That is a given, just like our car was ordered with park assist and others cars may not be. But none of that is unique to the C-Max.

The only things we are really beta-testers for is the hybrid power-train. Almost every other part of the vehicle has been out for a few years and may even be in use in other Ford vehicles.

Also, typing on a phone while wearing gloves is tricky...

Edited by valkraider, 13 February 2013 - 06:44 PM.


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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:19 AM

For what it's worth after spending about an hour on the phone with Ford Customer service I was told the 3.5.1 update is not for the Cmax.  I was told they are coming out with a completely different software update for the Cmax and a sdcard also. The time line was later this year.   i ask what later meant and the responce was just that later.  Yeah like the checks in the mail.



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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:57 AM

For what it's worth after spending about an hour on the phone with Ford Customer service I was told the 3.5.1 update is not for the Cmax.  I was told they are coming out with a completely different software update for the Cmax and a sdcard also. The time line was later this year.   i ask what later meant and the responce was just that later.  Yeah like the checks in the mail.

That is extremely disappointing to hear, hope its not true but as I am meeting the Ford Engineers tomorrow, I am going to ask about this. They are certainly going to hear abou these MFT issues. I know GPS can be bad but this is absurd.



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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:25 PM

I just checked my version on an SEL built on Feb. 7, 2013:

 

Sync VersionGen2 - V3.5.1


Edited by JAZ, 23 February 2013 - 12:26 PM.


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Posted 23 February 2013 - 01:02 PM

I just checked my version on an SEL built on Feb. 7, 2013:

 

Sync VersionGen2 - V3.5.1

 

do you have navigation? According to the sync site it is still not available:(



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Posted 23 February 2013 - 01:39 PM

For what it's worth after spending about an hour on the phone with Ford Customer service I was told the 3.5.1 update is not for the Cmax.  I was told they are coming out with a completely different software update for the Cmax and a sdcard also. The time line was later this year.   i ask what later meant and the responce was just that later.  Yeah like the checks in the mail.

 

Hmm, so much for a new release by the end of the quarter like they originally said...



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Posted 23 February 2013 - 02:19 PM

Yes, I have navigation and it's been flawless in the 100 miles I've used it, lol.







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