Jaimi

You would think so, but no - I left it plugged in all night. The design apparantly relies on that 12 volt battery being charged to even be able to charge the car at all.

It's an Energi. Thanks for the help, I got it going. Using a charger wasn't good enough, apparently - I connected actual jumper cables from the other cars battery, and there were some clicking relays in the engine compartment, and everything just started working & charging again. I'd give the engineers a big fat D- on the charging system - can't charge unless you have enough power? This is strange.

Yesterday morning, I went to jump in my cmax and go to work. When I got in, nothing was lit up. No lights, the screen was black, pushing the button made nothing happen. My first thought - must have run down the battery somehow. So I put it on the charger all night. This morning - Same thing. Nothing. I bought the car new in 2013. What's my next step? I can't even get it out of the garage, because it's in park, and the shifter is locked.

Thanks for the input, everyone. Talked the dealer down to 32686 for the entire package, out the door price. :) Picked it up last night, having a good time this morning driving in EV mode. Only thing that's not really great about the car is that "myford mobile" seems kind of wonky.

Thanks for the reply. I'm shopping around still looking at the normal hybrids and the energi. Wondering if anyone has a thought on the Hands-free lift gate and rear camera option. Got another quote for 32,986 for one that had these installed, but not sure how useful they actually are, or how well they are implemented.

I'm considering buying a new C-Max energi with package 301a. Dealer is quoting me an "out the door" price of 31,397 (includes all dealer fees and 1000 dollar promotion). This is 3500 less than list. Is this about right? Also, will they have addressed the current recall and software updates? Or should i specifically ask about all that? We test drove one, and me and my wife really like it.