RetiredJohn

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"...posted on the Blue Oval trying to get an update......" ????? Can you enlighten me what your talking about?

Does this article help? My philosophy after 4-1/2 years of dating and then 34 years of wondrous marriage, " Don't sweat the small stuff". http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/features/mpg-is-stupid.html?mktcat=nl-internal_standard&kw=industry_article219&mktid=nl61539723 :love_shower:

Interesting MPG Article from Edmunds http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/features/mpg-is-stupid.html?mktcat=nl-internal_standard&kw=industry_article219&mktid=nl61539723

...and in Australia are ladies underwear also called her Knickers :flirt:

He must be from England or Ireland or???? The Hood is the Bonnet, the Trunk is the Boot, a Sweater is a Jumper and ladies underwear is her Knickers :censored: ........go figure

Was that Ruby Red or is it a new 2014 color? Looked different than Ruby Red, which I haven't seen in person, only on-line and maybe in one brochure. Anyone know? :confused:

I think the poiniant point for this forum was; ...........demand remained strong last month for the C-Max :love_shower:

In AutoNews.........Copied only the relevant Ford info JULY U.S. SALES Honda, Toyota, GM set pace as sales climb 14% SAAR hits 15.7 million; Toyota outsells Ford; America Honda tops Chrysler 'Summer surge' Low interest rates, widespread credit, attractive lease deals, pent-up demand, new or redesigned models and a steady rebound in the U.S. economy and housing market are fueling sales. Many automakers also joined Chrysler in hiking incentives last month to clear inventories of 2013 models. Large pickup trucks, crossovers and compact cars drove July's sales gains. Light truck volume rose 16 percent and car deliveries advanced 12 percent last month. "The summer surge continues," Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas said in a research note published Tuesday. "July started with relatively weak showroom traffic through the third week. However, momentum picked up since and we expect the month to finish strong driven by a much healthier consumer sentiment." Analysts were especially encouraged because retail sales -- those made to individual customers -- accounted for the bulk of industry volume. Edmunds estimated fleet deliveries represented 14 percent of industry volume in July -- the lowest level of the year so far. "Consumer confidence has a played a key role in the ongoing recovery and currently is at the highest levels seen since January 2008," said Alec Gutierrez, senior market analyst at Kelley Blue Book. "With modest improvements in unemployment and housing expected to continue through the rest of the year, confidence likely will follow suit, driving new-car demand along with it." Ladis Sanchez, fleet manager at Galpin Ford in North Hills, Calif., described July sales as "phenomenal." Sanchez said demand remained strong last month for the C-Max, Escape, Fusion, Focus, F-150, Edge, and Explorer, while Taurus and Flex sales were slower. "A lot of [our] clients just seem to be a lot more stable," Sanchez said. But it was a tougher month at Allen Samuels Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Chevrolet in Ennis, Texas, despite a big promotional push. "We had mail for every week and radio for every week and two big inserts for the newspapers," said Tim Fowler, general sales manager at the dealership. "We're going to track out an average month, but it was like every deal had to be fought out." Read more: http://www.autonews.com/article/20130801/RETAIL01/308019998#ixzz2ar3ViUt8 Follow us: @Automotive_News on Twitter | AutoNews on Facebook

In Autoweek Ford Energi drivers use all-electric mode 60 percent of the time Ford has noticed quite a few interesting things by researching how owners use their Ford plug-in hybrids. It appears that Ford owners are driving their hybrids in electric mode nearly 60 percent of the time, using their cars' 21 miles of gas-free all-electric range. This figure contrasts quite a bit with the 41 percent of all-electric drive time earlier in the year, demonstrating that winter driving patterns differ quite a bit from summer driving. Ford has also found that the 60 percent figure for gas-free all-electric driving actually improved a bit more after the first 30 days of plug-in hybrid ownership. This appears to suggest that plug-in hybrid owners are tailoring their travel patterns around the car's all-electric range. The number of daily trips has also increased over the past month, perhaps owing to seasonal driving patterns once again. Perhaps the least unexpected statistic that Ford has unearthed is that 84 percent of one-way trips in its plug-in hybrids are distances of 20 miles or less, as people are using their hybrid cars for commutes or running errands, rather than for long summertime vacation trips. All of this research was made possible through the use of MyFord Mobile, which is available on Ford's plug-in and battery-electric cars like the C-MAX Energi, the Fusion Energi, and the Focus Electric (why they didn't give it a cool name like ElectroFocus we'll never know). The MyFord Mobile app can also be downloaded from the App Store as well as Google Play. The app allows Ford owners to link up their phone with their cars using an embedded AT&T wireless module, with the car supplying the app with information on its charge level and other vital stats. While not every plug-in hybrid Ford owner uses it, the app provides quite a bit of helpful info, including a charging-station finder. Ford has been able to piece together more interesting data through the MyFord Mobile app, finding that the average charge time is just over three hours, once again suggesting that most owners tend to use their cars for commuting. Perhaps the most helpful feature of the app is the Trip and Charge Log, which gives owners instant readouts about recent trips taken in the cars, showing how much energy was used and the fuel economy that was achieved. These readouts even give drivers such detailed information as how effectively brakes were used. Unfortunately, the system doesn't judge the driving skills or fuel economy of nearby cars in traffic, or just how much gas the guy in the clapped-out SUV with 224,000 miles driving next to you is wasting.

Jul 23, 2013, 2:30pm CDT Toyota, Ford not ready to collaborate on hybrid technologies The verdict is in. Toyota Motor Corp. and Ford Motor Co. have completed a feasibility study to determine if it made sense to work in collaboration to develop new hybrid systems for light trucks and SUVs. The two automakers have decided that it would be best if they develop such systems separately. Toyota issued a statement on Tuesday noting that its “commitment to hybrid technology is unwavering.” In fact, the automaker says it has already sold more than 2 million Toyota and Lexus hybrid vehicles in the U.S., which represents about 70 percent of the U.S. auto industry’s total hybrid sales. In addition, Toyota officials say the company is on track to offer 18 new or redesigned hybrid models globally by the end of 2015. Officials with Toyota and Ford announced back in 2011 a plan to determine if a collaborative approach to developing new hybrid systems was feasible. The two companies have not ruled out the possibility of working together in the future on next-generation technologies.

Sorry, missed that thread

Did you see this recent review? :shift: http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130719/CARREVIEWS/130719845?utm_source=DailyDrive20130719&utm_medium=enewsletter&utm_term=article3&utm_content=20130719-2013-Ford-C-Max-Hybrid-SEL-review-&utm_campaign=awdailydrive

Thanks Laurel and Bruce, your observations helps.

What color do you consider Ice Storm? In the past we've had a lot of problems with any blue car......I know, I know overly superstitious right? Anyway I've only seen one C-Max in Ice Storm and I didn't give it much more than a quick glance because I thought it had a blue hue. Some think its green....what say you?

1963 Dodge Polara 4-dr Sedan. Had a 383ci "Wedge" 4-barrel with push-button Torque Flight Trans. I converted it to a Hurst floor stick shift (gas was 29c/gallon). It was a sleeper :drop: 350ci Cameros and Firebirds would pull along side, laugh and gun their engines. At that point they were just a spec in my rearview! :camera: After an electrical fire the engine lived a second life in a Dodge Dart at the race track.

Bought many a vehicle from Wickstom, one Taurus wagon, one Taurus Sedan, one E-150 van, two Explorers. In fact my 1988 Taurus sedan "retired" to AZ with a co-worker and it just hit 100,000 miles.....nothing other than a water pump mechanically since new (other than a battery or two, new brakes and tires). Wickstrom was a great Dealer for us, always fair, no games. But, since we've moved further South Wickstom isn't very convenient . Getting close to getting that C-Max but we'll be using another great Dealer near us, Bredemann Ford in Glenview. Good luck, let us know how your discussion goes. ;)

:happy feet: Ford to give free hybrid upgrades to boost mileage Employee Colleen Mulligan drives a C-MAX Hybrid off the line at Ford's Michigan Assembly Plant. (Ford photo) July 16, 2013, 3:53 p.m. Reuters Ford Motor Co. will update its hybrid vehicles for free to improve their fuel economy. Among the improvements, Ford plans to increase the maximum all-electric speed on those vehicles to 85 miles per hour from 62, Raj Nair, vice president of global product development, said Tuesday. Owners of about 77,000 Ford hybrid vehicles in the United States and Canada will be offered the upgrades.

Salsa, 1) They just send an email confirmation of Date/Time and indicate no sandals and bring your Drivers License. 2) Kids were there but they want 18 year olds in the cars (if they have a license). You drive the Hypermile course with 3 plus an "Instructor". You switch after two laps each. The other two events, the Head-to-Head and ST Academy you drive alone. 3) Yes pictures are A-OK

Is the benefit just better/cooler lights or does it save battery (energy) usage too?

Yes, you have to be able to drive stick. In fact, they say if you haven't driven a stick in over a year, that event is not for you! edit: I should have said that particular part of the event (the ST Academy) isn't for you.....just skip the speed challenge. The HyperMile and EcoBoost course can be done by anyone with a valid Drivers License.

OK, I just did all 10 too :drop: Now make sure if you live in a town the PHYSICAL driving challenge is held sign up at fordecoboostchallengedrive.com.

Actually this is something different. The drive challenge info is here. Pre-registration is live at fordecoboostchallengedrive.com. Space is limited and available on first-come, first-served basis. Events will open at 9 a.m. and run all day through 6 p.m. in most markets. Locations and dates are: Boston, Gillette Stadium, June 22Washington, D.C., FedEx Field, June 29Chicago, Arlington Park, June 29San Francisco, Golden Gate Fields, July 13Los Angeles, Rose Bowl, July 20New York City, Citi Field, August 17Charlotte, Charlotte Motor Speedway, August 24Atlanta, Turner Field, September 7Dallas, Cowboys Stadium, September 7Orlando, Orange County Convention Center, September 14Houston, Sam Houston Race Park, September 14Miami, Gulfstream Park, September 21Minneapolis/St. Paul, Canterbury Park, September 21

FYI.......Ford hosted the EcoBoost Challenge in the Chicago Suburban area on June 29th. At the event there were a lot of "giveaways" as well as the ability to HyperMile Drive a C-Max, then drive EcoBoost models against the competition and finally a speed race with the new 2014 Fiesta. This event is coming to many towns so check with the Ford site and sign up. :drool: P.S. Afterward I received an email that an "offer" is coming soon, again via email, that a Free Ford ESP Plan will be offered for new purchasers of a Ford product. :happy feet: I haven't seen anything yet but it just might make me "pull-the-trigger" and get that Max I want! I'm assuming it will be sent shortly to entice a 2013 MY purchase before the 2014's come out!

I want all the SEL features EXCEPT that Nav. I have a Garmin that I move from car to rental car when needed so I'm torn what model to get. I don't want to pay for the NAV I don't need.