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The only one I have seen on TV (US) is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPgJKFDuAfA

I am not sure if the hill climb assist was the cause (my garage is only slightly sloped for water to run away from the building, but level enough to not cause the car to roll on it's own). I have not experienced the problem again so hopefully it was just something I did wrong. There was no code either, but I have no idea if a faulty hill sensor would send one or not. I'll keep this in mind though if it happens again somewhere where there is a decent slope. I found out about the grade assist when I was driving and noticed the lamp for it on the cluster. It took me a bit to realize that I had bumped it, and it's nice to have on long hills when the regen fills up the battery early on.

Yeah, this is one of the things that seems to be the most inconsistent when backing out of my garage. Sometimes it will just roll (when in reverse) and sometimes it needs a little kick to get going - especially when the engine is running due to a low battery.

If you look at the comments there, he/she is using several Hypermiling techniques (which makes a lot of sense given the mpg figures). It is nice to see what the c-max is capable of, though that driver's numbers are probably going to be at the far right on the bell curve.

You are correct, I believe (but need to verify) that stations sell 10% ethanol around here - year round. The EPA tests are run with 100% gas (no ethanol). That's still only about 2mpg lost to e10, which moves things closer to 47mpg for me, but not quite within reach. Possibly winter blends could be a further hit on mpg, but I am not sure by how much.

Wow, $8 for a screw, I think Ford is just being intentionally ironic. I have the SE and was thinking the same, but the best ones I have considered (Gentex GENK332) run about $380. The cameras I have seen as cheap as $15 (non OEM of course) on Ebay, though I have no idea how well they work or fit.

I asked my co-worker who has the remote start (with pushbutton) on his Escape, he said that his will also shut off when he opens the door, but if he puts his foot on the brake it will remain on - of course it would have to stay on long enough to do that.

I agree, I am starting to think 41-42mpg will end up being my average. If it gets better than that, it won't have anything to do with the car breaking in, it will be a change in my driving habits. At least among the people I know, Toyota drivers (Prius and Camry Hybrid) seem to be getting at least as good or better than EPA mpg, but it seems to be a struggle for me to get within reach of the EPA numbers on the C-max. OTOH I don't think I'd be happy with a Prius.

Thanks for doing the heavy lifting on this, hopefully the expensive parts will be stock and this can be done for a couple hundred bucks. Thanks also for mentioning the fordparts.com site, it is going to come in handy.

There are 3 connectors on the inside of the panel on the dirver side, closer to the center of the vehicle, but none of them look like the one in the pic from the passenger side, they appeared to be connected, so I am guessing the one in the pic is not a connector for the fogs.

First congratulations on the new C-max, I also bought the SE, but would have liked to get the heated (cloth) seats and mirrors, but nothing else on the SEL was necessary for me. I should probably post this in the other thread, but did Ford say that the BCM was different on the SE vs SEL? I find that surprising if true since there are only a handful of extras that it would support for the additional cost of two different modules.

The manual says use the same size as what they put on at the factory - page 331 in the manual. It also says they don't recommend chains, so I wonder what they expect people to use, aside from a tow truck?

I don't have the fog's either, but would add them if there was a grill kit available for a reasonable price. I took some pics through the hole in the shroud which is right below the grills, there is not much behind them but I did see something that could be a connector on the passenger side, will check to see if it is on the driver side later and post back. This was looking straight up through the hole on the passenger side, and could be a connector for fog lights: Otherwise there is not much going on behind the grills:

Awesome! I hope it works out, are you planning to install it yourself? Watched the video and am thinking that with the sensor it may unintentionally open while mounting bikes or the hitch. I think I'd zip tie a towel or something soft to the carrier the first couple times (to protect the liftgate from hitting it) until it can be seen one way or ther other if mounting the bikes or hitch would trigger it.

The accessories page for the c-max shows both of them so I'd guess they would both work with it - I was not sure which one Ford was selling with the factory option though - based on the post from ZHack it is the square one. The bi-directional does cost more. I've also seen them on ebay for $225 - searched for the part number CM5Z-19G364-B. http://accessories.f...mote-start.html

Thanks, I will check the window thing out. It sounds like adding remote start is probably worth the money and I think I can handle the install myself. I am guessing the shut off thing with the door being opened must be to prevent theft, but also limit liability in case by some magic the car moved when somebody was getting in. I have a coworker who has the remote start (with pushbutton) on his new Escape, I will ask him if it has the same behavior when the door is opened. His remote fob is all in one with the keyless entry, alarm and remote start on the same fob, but it is not bi-directional.

I don't think mobile apps (app-link) are available with MFT (pg405). - see the 3rd note down on the page in the manual. I am not sure why this is, does not make sense to pay more and not get this feature, but it is pretty nice to get it on the base, especially for Pandora.

Thanks for posting the pics, at least since this is such a new car they will have to use factory parts and not some after market garbage to fix it. It looks like there is a lot of plastic up front in the structure, guessing it is a weight savings - noticed the same on the Escape. I hope they get it back on the road soon.

Do you have the touchscreen? I don't think mobile apps (app-link) are available with MFT (pg405). It also says that you need to use the cable with the iPhone (not bluetooth).

I think my best real world mpg so far has been on streets under 45mph. Out of curiosity, what is the speed limit on that road, and is it respected?

Cool, even though I've had the vehicle for a while I am still getting used to the way it operates, and I would not rule out operator error somehow - unfortunately at the time I did not stop and take some notes on the circumstances, though both myself and the passenger noticed it. If it re-occurs I will take down some notes. I hope it is just some transient weirdness. Update - I just checked and there are no codes. I am going to chalk this up to user error unless it happens again and I can document it better. The only scenario that makes sense is that maybe I did not have the key all the way on, and possibly when I put it back in park to re-try backing out I may have turned it off and back on (if I did that it, it slipped my mind). So it may have been in the accessory position and not the running position when I was gassing it. I have had a few starts when I thought it was on and realized that the green go light on the dash was not lit so had to twist the key again.

One way to get it to go into EV is to get up to speed on the engine, and then when you are at or near where you want to be, feather off the gas just a bit and the EV will probably kick in, then if you need to speed up a bit do it really slowly. Using the "Empower" mode on the right monitor helps too since it gives a moving threshold for where the EV will drop out if you gas it too much, it takes a real light foot to keep it dancing in the EV mode.

The biggest drawback aside from the price on the Energi is the hit that cargo space takes. I found a pic (and a cool website) which demonstrates how much they raised the cargo floor to accomodate the bigger battery pack. It would be cool to be able to top off the battery though (would even like to be able to do it on the hybrid since it makes a big difference in EV performance). http://www.c-maxenergi.com/2012/02/accounting-for-trunc-space-of-c-max.html

That sounds about right. Getting the advertised mpg would probably be possible if I did not mind pissing off everyone else on the road by always driving the limit or below. I have had one tailgater who I think saw the hybrid tag and saw red for some reason, but that was his problem not mine. Ironically a level freeway is probably a worst case scenario for this car, in terms of mpg, but it is still very good.

The white is really nice, but the blue was what caught my eye. Blue is a $400 option though.