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rkk

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  1. I disagree on the MPG's on trips. The extra weight doesn't hurt it that much at highway speeds. Remember it is actually higher rated by the EPA now than the regular hybrid on the highway. Depending on how long the trip is the initial 21 or so miles on battery will make up for a lot if not more than all of any actual reduction in highway mileage. Can't get around the space issue though.
  2. The lost space in the back along with the no longer flat floor when you fold the seats down can be a deal breaker for some. Ironically for me I need to take my snow blower in to be fixed. I probably should have done that first. Oh well, maybe it will fit.
  3. For those who aren't aware, Ford has some pretty good rebates on the Energi right now and 0 percent interest for 60 months. The dealers are also eager to move them. If you can take advantage of the $4007 Federal Tax credit it might be worth looking at trading in your CMAX Hybrid for the Energi ( or just getting another one). Several of us over at cleanmpg.com have done just that. In my case after all was said and done, including the tax rebate for under $4900 more including all taxes and fees I traded in my base SE CMAX hybrid with over 27,000 miles on it for a base Energi SEL with 75 miles on it. With the 0 percent interest my effective monthly payment(after accounting for the tax rebate) is the same as I was paying for the hybrid. Now the Energi has nearly 500 miles and I have used less than 3 gallons of gas. I fell in love with driving electric driving my wifes Leaf but I needed more range. This gives me the best of both worlds. If you haven't driven one it would be worth a test drive.
  4. The EPA, and Toyota would beg to differ. http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130826/OEM11/308269980/epa-says-its-mpg-test-holds-up-for-hybrids#axzz2d6FHyPOY
  5. If you look at the comparison test that cleanmpg.com did they have a number of steady state speed tests. They get to a certain speed and turn on the cruise control taking the driver out of it. The Prius V did better at every speed. However that was before the update for the C-MAX. By the way, when you look at all the reviews done on the Fusion and the Fuelly.com numbers, it isn't much better than the C-MAX. I am not an engineer but I don't think aerodynamics can account for a 7 mpg difference on the EPA highway test. Ford says they are not changing it. I wonder if the EPA is testing that one too.
  6. Exactly. Ford knew exactly what they were doing, and what this car would get for most people. They saw a rule they could take advantage of and they did. They apparently thought they could get away with blaming the EPA rules and the drivers.
  7. I have it installed now. I emailed the dealer service manager along with a customer service rep from Ford all the info including the letter from Ford and the sync history showing them the update wasn't done. The service manager emailed be back to bring it and they would try again. It's working fine now.
  8. The same thing happened to me. Hopefully next week I will be taking it back to get it taken care of.
  9. This happened to me as well except now the dealer is telling me there isn't an update available for my C-MAX. They are telling me it is for C-MAX's with navigation only even though I have the letter from Ford saying I should get the update. I have contacted Ford and so far all they tell me is their system shows the recall was done. Has anyone here that doesn't have navigation had the update done?
  10. Yes, they did another one. Look at his first post. It's dated yesterday. The thread you are talking about is this one http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45723&page=14
  11. Actually this was just posted yesterday. Some of the information is from an older thread. One of his points would be whatever you are getting in the C-MAX, you would be getting better in either Prius despite Ford's advertising. For me the C-MAX has been consistently about 7-8 mpg's less than my Civic Hybrid was in similar conditions even though the Civic is a lower rated car. In my case I have nearly 11,000 miles on mine and have yet to see a 47 mpg tank but it is much colder here. Maybe this summer.
  12. There may be many reasons to pick a C-MAX over a Prius, but mileage isn't one of them. Not even against a Prius V. http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46762.
  13. Being able to go up to 62 mph in EV mode is just a gimmic if you are driving any distance on the freeway (but probably very helpful on the EPA test). Where does that battery power come from? The gas engine.The result when using ev mode once the battery has to be recharged so much power is pulled off the engine to recharge the battery that the mileage drops significantly until it is charged up again. The best highway mileage I have seen by far is at 65 mph with a nearly full battery indicator. No need for regen so the ICE can just power the wheels. The best thing Ford could do is to give us the EV now or later button similar to the energi. It could be a software button. If they can't do that they should rebalance how much engine power is pulled off for regen at higher speeds.
  14. Racine, WI Porcaro Ford. Overall they have been excellent to deal with.
  15. Under promise and over deliver - always a good thing Over promise and under deliver - always bad.
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