syncmax Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 I want to compare MSRP of cmax and comparably equipped escape. It is not clear the three trims of escape are lined up with the those of cmax. I have SEL with 301A. How much a similarly equipped escape cost? do the escape buyers get similar incentives? ($2500 as of now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevedebi Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 They are drastically different cars, despite being on the same platform. The C-Max has more room and vastly better MPG, but the Escape has the higher ground clearance and AWD capability (if needed). They have some visual design features that are similar, but really, this is two different vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raadsel Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) From what I can see, to get all the options on the C-Max SEL (particularly with the 301A package) you'd have to compare it to the Escape Titanium -- you can't get things like the Sony sound system, interior lighting, or push button start without buying the Titanium model. You can get an SE Escape similarly equipped, minus items like the above, to the C-Max SEL for maybe a little less -- but you will need to get things like the 201A package, the leather Package and add Navigation separately, so the price ends up being very close. As for incentives, it appears there may be some for the Escape but not as much as what is offered for the C-Max, though for specifics you'll need to check locally. Incentives are often based on what is selling/not selling regionally. Edited September 24, 2015 by raadsel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian_L Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 My colleage has an Escape SEL and the dashboard is identical to the C-max. Having said that, it's really an apples/oranges thing. Two different vehicles fitting different needs. A dealership would be the best place to answer your question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Smith Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 Ijust wen ton ford.com and "built" an escape and a c-max with all the potential options. and the c-max was $500 more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottwood2 Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 (edited) I looked at the Escape. I like the style but I felt like I had more room sitting in the C-Max. Just one time sitting in the Escape was enough to push me back to the C-Max. I do see a lot of Escapes on the road so people must like them. Edited September 28, 2015 by scottwood2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raadsel Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 Ijust wen ton ford.com and "built" an escape and a c-max with all the potential options. and the c-max was $500 more... I'd be interested to see what you "built". The problem I could find is that you really need to compare the C-Max SEL to the Escape SE, and the SE does come out cheaper, but the Escape SE doesn't have all the options that an SEL C-Max does. To get all the options, you need an Escape Titanium but then the Escape has some extra features. The problem is how you actually value the different options, particularly things like the Sony stereo; and that is a call only the OP can decide for himself. Also, in my search of available vehicles locally, all the Escape SE models that have options to compete with the C-Max SEL also come with the upgraded engine -- so unless you were to special order the car, the Escape SE in my area are still more expensive. Of course, in other areas that may not be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Smith Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 i did thec-max sel and then selected all possible options (excpet stuff like floor mats and mud guards) and then did the same with the escape titanium , no 4wd though IMO they are close enough in price that it woudl come down to comfort (they have the same floor pan), space, utility, fuel economy and such Ie stuff you cannot really quantify in my opinion. except MPG's everything else is subjective.. when I did it a second time. the price difference was 800 not sure if these links will work so must have missed something the first time http://shop.ford.com/build/escape/#/config/Config[|Ford|Escape|2016|1|1.|301A.U0J..J4...LEA.RETAIL.TITANIUM.89L.43M.582.] http://shop.ford.com/build/cmax/?gnav=header-cars#/config/Config[|Ford|C-MAX|2016|1|1.|.P5B..L6...90C.85B.46P.LEA.HYD.NONFLEET.HSEL.89L.43P.66R.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raadsel Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 (edited) i did thec-max sel and then selected all possible options (excpet stuff like floor mats and mud guards) and then did the same with the escape titanium , no 4wd though IMO they are close enough in price that it woudl come down to comfort (they have the same floor pan), space, utility, fuel economy and such Ie stuff you cannot really quantify in my opinion. except MPG's everything else is subjective.. when I did it a second time. the price difference was 800 not sure if these links will work so must have missed something the first time http://shop.ford.com/build/escape/#/config/Config[|Ford|Escape|2016|1|1.|301A.U0J..J4...LEA.RETAIL.TITANIUM.89L.43M.582.] http://shop.ford.com/build/cmax/?gnav=header-cars#/config/Config[|Ford|C-MAX|2016|1|1.|.P5B..L6...90C.85B.46P.LEA.HYD.NONFLEET.HSEL.89L.43P.66R.] If you look at MSRP, the Escape Titanium is $34,185 compared to an MSRP of $33,000 for the C-Max. It is incentives that make that make the Escape appear cheaper -- the 2016 C-Max does not have any incentives because they are not yet on dealer lots. The 2015 C-Max appears to have $3,000 in incentives (though this can vary by local area), which would make the price $30,000, so $2,000 less than the Escape after incentives. Edited September 28, 2015 by raadsel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Smith Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 your local incentive may vary from mine, Interest rates may vary, ect. doing the web site build gets you in the ballpark. If you were to build one I figure you'd proabbly pay close to MSRP. for either one... now if you are able to find one onthe lot and drive it away that you like, you'd be able to save even more most likely I woudl think that with low fuel prices, the hybrids are going to start getting stagnate on the lot and with winter time approaching in some locations SUVs get a premium for the harsh winters we get :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raadsel Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 (edited) your local incentive may vary from mine, Interest rates may vary, ect. doing the web site build gets you in the ballpark. If you were to build one I figure you'd proabbly pay close to MSRP. for either one... now if you are able to find one onthe lot and drive it away that you like, you'd be able to save even more most likely I woudl think that with low fuel prices, the hybrids are going to start getting stagnate on the lot and with winter time approaching in some locations SUVs get a premium for the harsh winters we get :) The point remains, the C-Max is around $1000 cheaper than the Escape Titanium. The C-Max is just currently in the weird spot that it shows the 2016 on the Ford website, which is not yet available so has no incentives -- at this point you have to compare the 2015 C-Max which isn't on the Ford website any longer. There is also the fact that being end of model year, dealers are likely more willing to deal on the C-Max, to get rid of the "old model" to make room for the 2016. This may be particularly true with the 2016 having Sync 3. Additionally, if the C-Max does not sell because of the low gas prices, that means that the incentives will become larger in an attempt to move the cars off the lots. I agree much depends on the driving dynamics, if there is a feature they want that is only available on one of the cars, how the car "feels" to the buyer, and if they want to tow. Edited September 28, 2015 by raadsel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptjones Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 What about weight, that could make a difference in towing. I thought Escape had more room in the back. :) Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raadsel Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 What about weight, that could make a difference in towing. I thought Escape had more room in the back. :) Paul Looks like the Escape has about 10 cu ft extra cargo space, about 15 extra with the rear seats folded down. ptjones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasDmw Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 We just bought a new 15 CMax. The 16s won't be in Canada for a few months yet. Check the ford.ca web site; it still has the 15 with the specs, etc. We almost bought an Escape; had one rented for a week 2 weeks ago. Really nice, but we already have an SUV (Lexus RX350), so we really don't need 2 SUVs. Traded a focus for the CMax; didn't like the low difficult entry, the rough ride and the really wide turning radius of the focus any more. Had 1 set of clutches installed, but really didn't have a lot of transmission issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotPotato Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Comparably equipped, the cost is similar. Pluses for the Escape: more cargo room, more ground clearance, available AWD, "sporty." Minuses for the Escape: costs a lot more to fuel, rides considerably rougher, has less headroom, harder ingress/egress. I have a C-Max and my partner's family have both the 1.6 FWD and 2.0 AWD Escapes, so I've logged a lot of time in all three. Between the Escapes, the 1.6 FWD zips along nicely and gets pretty good MPG, while the 2.0 AWD isn't much faster but uses a lot more gas. Unless you have to motor over tall snowdrifts, the C-Max makes more sense and is easier to live with. ptjones and djc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackalopetx Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 (edited) There's a big difference between the two vehicles... Safety. The unibodies are apparently very different. The C-Max has a stronger roof (6.8x vehicle weight vs 5x) and gets an Acceptable score in small front overlap vs Poor C-Max: http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/vehicle/v/ford/c-max-hybrid-4-door-wagon Escape: http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/vehicle/v/ford/escape-4-door-suv Edited May 29, 2016 by jackalopetx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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