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Yes it is but it looks very similar to the Aisin design.  Worth watching the video.  But Ford may still have to pay a licensing fee.

 

Ford and Toyota developed similar hybrid systems independently of each other, based on work originally done by TRW. Basically, Ford and Toyota both license patents from the other for their hybrid systems, I'm not sure that any money is actually paid either way.

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Pre-escape hybrid article (2004)

"Under the agreement announced yesterday, Toyota will license to Ford a patented hybrid control system that links a gasoline engine with an electric motor. The companies refused to disclose the terms of the licensing agreement or how much Ford would pay in royalties. In addition, the companies agreed to license to each other emission reduction technologies that each has developed."

https://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/10/business/ford-to-use-toyota-s-hybrid-technology.html

 

 

2009 articles

"Toyota's patent-filing strategy has made it far too risky to copy the Prius without Toyota's blessing,"

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB124640553503576637

 

Slashdot points us to a WSJ story about how Toyota has purposely built up a patent thicket so thick that basically no one can build hybrid vehicles without paying up:

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090708/0055045483.shtml

 

 

2007 judgment against toyota  (even Toyota pays)

"In Paice LLC v. Toyota Motor Corp.2007 WL 3024994 (Fed. Cir. 2007), after a finding of infringement and damages of $25 per use of infringing drive trains for hybrid motors,"

http://www.ipinfoblog.com/archives/intellectual-property-does-the-future-of-patent-law-portend-compulsory-licensing-by-judicial-fiat.html

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^^LOL^^, looks like a $25 royalty per unit.   Bottom line: Does any of this really matter???  Generally, the first to file patent wins even though many may be developing  a sijmilar product at the same time.  We can only speculate on what all the licensing agreement might "actually" say / allow without the actual documents.

 

Since 1992, Paice has focused exclusively on enabling automakers to design and develop cost-effective hybrid electric vehicles that deliver superior fuel economy and performance. It has licensed its hybrid vehicle technology portfolio to the world’s most significant hybrid automakers – Toyota, Ford, Hyundai/Kia, and others – who collectively account for more than 80% of all hybrid vehicle sales in the United States."

 

AICE PRESS RELEASE | APRIL 12, 2018

Ford licenses hybrid vehicle patents from Paice, Abell Foundation
Four out of every five hybrid-electric vehicles in the world now have a Paice license.

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DarenHayes, I think the "30-ish mpg" comments were from online trolls we discovered when doing research before our purchase.

 

After one month, we're averaging 51.5mpg and approximately 59% EV use. My wife is deferring her next fill-up so we can join the 600-mile club, or better.  She also loves not having to stop for gas after work or in bad weather.

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