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All, my C-Max Hybrid now has about 214K miles. I did my first engine oil analysis and it is attached. I am using only Amsoil Signature 5w30 for years. Thoughts on this analysis on the car with this many miles on it?
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Mark
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The liftgate on my 2013 C max hybrid SEL is acting very strange. It will open all the way and then come halfway back down and then after it settles halfway back down it’s very difficult to move. It doesn’t want to release the electric struts. I saw on YouTube where a short video showed that there is a position switch near the light that lights the rear license plate. Has anyone had any trouble with that? Or can anyone point me in the direction of how to get this liftgate working? To replace those two struts is $1000. I will rather just put regular gas strut 10 and not have the automatic feature then they have to pay that much.
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Wow! How much was the credit you received?
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On 2/16/2023 at 4:58 PM, Adrian_L said:
Dang. I definitely love my automatic tailgate, but I could learn to live with regular struts, given that price. Have you thought about checking a wrecking yard?
That will be my last resort as I don’t believe these are that well made. Mine have been ‘sticky’ in cold weather since day one.
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The electric automatic liftgate struts on my 2013 SEL are shot and I can’t seem to source them anywhere other than Ford. I am quoted $500 each or essentially $1000 for the pair… I’m going to put these Ford part numbers down here and ask if anyone knows of an alternative source other than Ford? The passenger side part number from Ford is a M5Z58406A10F and the driver side is a M5Z58406A11D.
i’m not sure what I’m gonna do but I’m not gonna pay $1000 to restore this automatic electric liftgate. To replace it with the gas struts is about $79 all in. Any help appreciated. Thanks.S
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All,
I’ve been reviewing the 2023 Toyota Sequoia, which all model sub variants only come as a hybrid. This is the same Hybrid system in the Toyota Tundra, which from my sleuthing is the same hybrid system in the Ford F150 Powerboost hybrid. 10 Speed HD transmission, tows 9K lbs, and a 44HP electric motor. 21MPG average on a 4wd 6,300lb vehicle. Up to 24 Highway. If you have towing needs, this could be the vehicle if you don’t want or need a pickup. SR5 and goodies is $75K out the door so…
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That tax credit is only available to the original purchaser IIRC. My 2013 C-Max hybrid (not Energi) has 211K miles on the clock and traction battery is great. The 12V battery I replaced about 4 years ago with an Oddyssey that fit in the space.
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On 11/24/2022 at 5:54 PM, jzchen said:
Thank you for coming back to update your thread! I'm glad to see a "reboot" has solved your issue. The C-MAX has a lot of electronics in it that's akin to being a computer. Sometimes a random bug may creep out like you experienced. From my experience the car will warn you on screen when the battery has become weak/time to replace. So since you didn't report that I'm betting your battery is still good, and you just got one of these random bugs...
Agree. I put in an Oddyssey battery when the OEM battery failed years ago. These Oddyssey batteries last a long time. I’ve had zero problems since the battery disconnect reboot.
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On 9/7/2022 at 9:05 AM, SnowStorm said:
What did you use to check for codes? Its my understanding that using Forscan can find codes that other methods won't (I suppose, more Ford specific ones). Should you find codes associated with a particular module, you might try unplugging/re-plugging its connectors a couple of times.
AGM batteries require a different charging profile so yours may not be getting maintained properly. I suggest checking the voltage occasionally to see how it is doing. Of course this check must be done before turning the car on because the HVB and DC-DC converter will start charging the 12V battery at that point.
I use Blue Driver scanner and it isn’t as deep as FORScan, but pretty good. Anyhow, I wanted to report back that I’ve had zero problems since I rebooted all modules after disconnecting my negative terminal on the 12V battery.
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On 8/27/2022 at 5:22 PM, cr08 said:
Having messed with this a bit in my recent inverter setup, I can say the big negative battery lead going from the battery to the bolt on the body middle-ish of the car back there is probably around 4ga. Visibly it's about the same gauge as the wire I used which is also 4ga.
Can't say for the positive side since that one's not as straightforward. The main battery fuse/junction on the positive terminal of the battery actually splits right there between the DC-DC converter and vehicle electronic feeds.
There's also plenty of resources/tables around the net detailing correct wire gauge sizing based on load and wire length. Nothing special needed for a hybrid vehicle here, the same concept applies.
That said, if this was my own vehicle I'd focus on trying to fix the actual cause of your issues than a bandaid such as this. But that's me. Most of the common causes of issues like random battery drains or fob detection issues are well known and have solutions.
It didn’t throw any codes, what can be done to track down an issue with no codes thrown?
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On 8/27/2022 at 11:48 AM, homestead said:
What voltage was the 12V battery at?
I didn’t test for the system came right up. I forgot to post I did check the fuse at the 12V terminal with an IR tester and it appears good.
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I’ve decided to put this discussion under general because it hits many topics. I got locked out of my C max Thursday of this week and the car would not recognize my fob my backup fob which I keep hidden on the vehicle disassembled, nor would it recognize the fobs with brand new batteries put in them. I use the blade key to get into the car and follow the procedure in the manual to put the fob next to the RF emergency receiver on the steering column followed the procedures in the manual hit the brake, hit the start button and she lit off. Once started I went ahead and drove about 20 miles home and received interesting error codes on the dash, such as approaching exceeding maximum speed… There were other quirky issues going on such as the electric liftgate would go up but not come back down. If I closed the door when I got out it would not recognize the fobs and I would have to put the fobs right next to the emergency receiver on the column to start and then could again drive the car, but it was apparent that a module was having multiple faults setting off multiple problems. After reading through a few of the forums here I made the decision to unbury the 12 V battery in the rear compartment and to disconnect the 12 V lead. After disconnecting the 12 V lead and leaving it disconnected for at least five or 10 minutes I reconnected it and went in and started the car and now everything works. This has been two days of driving now and I’ve had no fall back to any of the old problems, I have left that rear facia piece of plastic of the rear covering over the battery compartment off in case something else went wrong. I must mention I replaced the OEM 12v battery about three or four years ago With an odyssey AGM battery. My plan now is to install a 12 V disconnect switch via two 3 foot battery lead pigtails from the positive terminal and place the battery disconnect in the little ventilation access compartment on the right side of the trunk compartment for easy access. Should I have another situation like this I will be able to enter the car via the blade key follow the procedures get the hatch opened and disconnect the 12 V battery from a disconnect switch that’s very easily accessible by that air ventilation panel on the right. I won’t have to get somewhere and get the tools to remove that plastic piece for access to the 12v battery.
Sorry for this long post but I felt it needed the details to be able to explain all that’s going on in my proposed solution. I discussed my problem with a factory Toyota mechanic friend with and he said it was standard operating procedure in problems like these with his training at Toyota to do exactly what I did and pull that positive lead off and allow these modules to reset themselves and essentially reboot the entire system.
I have a question: if anyone knows what gauge those 12 V battery leads are? I found some four gauge battery leads and I don’t know if that is thick enough. I do know that the battery leads from the 12 V battery are only powering the electronics suite, they don’t look all that thick.
If anyone knows the spec on the 12V leads would you please let me know. I will report back on how things go after this reboot of all the modules and how the remote battery disconnect mod works out.
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Mark
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All, I know this thread is old, but I’m having a similar problem on my 2013 SEL. My FOB works only on the ‘Emergency’ receiver. I will start with that 150 amp fuse on the 12v battery. How was the problem here finally resolved?
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Thanks for all the replies. I think my traction battery may be showing signs of losing a little of it's capacity.
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On 7/9/2022 at 11:39 PM, homestead said:
Are you talking about the cvt transmission?
Yes.
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I’m looking at buying one of my kids an older C-Max. Is there any fool-proof way (Ford Oasis system?) to tell by the VIN if for a stance a 2013 has the updated hybrid drive?
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Mark
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On 3/19/2022 at 6:06 PM, fbov said:
I'll also recommend an upgrade to the HF45 in the Escape. Bigger car, better mileage...
I wonder if the Escape Hybrid has the power and acceleration of the Cmax? Mine is a little rocket ship on acceleration. I like the Escape PHEV, but understand the battery pack weighs it down considerably, and makes it a little more sluggish than the non PHEV. This Cmax is a very fun car to drive.
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All, my 2013 Cmax SEL with 2016 eCVT in it just keeps humming along. I used Amsoil Signature oil and have R&R’d the coolant, but other than a wheel bearing and the CVT replacement, I haven’t really done much to the car. OEM brakes ( I do drive a lot of highway miles), orig spark plugs. Is this car good for awhile? Any high Mileage folks out there? I wonder if I should pass this to my daughter and get myself a 2018? IDK? With the newer eCVT in my 2013 and nothing but driving it for the most part, is the quality as good on the 2016 through 2018 Cmax’s?
Feedback appreciated.
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Mark
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All,
I have a daughter that needs a car… Looking for a CMax or Energi ‘16 or better or even better, an older Cmax that has the new eCVT swapped into it. I’m in Texas but will ship the car in or pick it up. Please PM me or email markmagee.tx@gmail.com.
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Mark
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My CMAX has 186K on the clock and front end banging on bumps. I’m thinking I’m needing struts. Are there better struts to buy, or just go OEM? Also should I do front and rears at the same time.
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All,
My daughter needs a car and I will be hanging on my to my 2013 for at least another year and 50K more miles. If anyone is selling a 2013-2015 that the HF35 has been replaced no matter how many miles I am willing to discuss.
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Mark
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My 2013 now has just under 160K miles and I had the brakes reviewed by my mech when he was investigating a clicking noise on take off, at around 150K miles, I told him to do front, rear or both brakes as needed. When I picked it up, he said the brakes were great and didn’t recommend any service whatever. I do drive a lot obviously, I have a monthly commute of about 1,000 miles and put about 3K miles on the CMax pre-Kung Flu.
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On 6/10/2020 at 10:31 AM, ptjones said:
In 252k mi. I have never had a flat tire, I think I have had 3 screw/nails in my tires and were patched. Had one with hole to far up the sidewall to be patched, but still held air, tire was pretty much worn out so I replaced it. Mini spare is optional with Escape plugin.
Paul
Paul, I can't remember over the years, have you replaced your HF35 tranny?
Mark
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On 6/23/2020 at 6:14 PM, fbov said:
Given the degree of commonality between HF35 and HF45 drivetrains (same MGs, I believe), I think the new Escape Hybrid's 1500 lb. limit should give you comfort.
Frank
Yes that does, I -really- don't see any problem and your info has helped me have more 'comfort'....
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Mark
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Yes, I follow Amsoil's recommendations for their oil and filter, annual drains and filter change. Still original plugs now at 214K miles. This car has had a lot of highway miles.