pittcmax

So I should accept an almost 20% reduction in economy? I get it You love the car, I did to before the battery went dead. I didn't trade in the Saab, it is still sitting in my driveway. I am only concerned that I lost nearly 20% of my fuel economy after the battery failed. And super duper at misquoting me... I said on up hill grades it was getting 8-10 mpg... I guessed at 20-23mpg on flat grades for the ICE. It used to give me 30-35 mpg on a flat highway run... and you have pointed out that i was relatively accurate on my ICE mpg estimates. Would you accept a sudden reduction in fuel efficiency? And the cost difference for me is this: Saab MPG mixed - 30 mpg with Premium Fuel @$3.30 C-Max MPG mixed (prior to dead battery) - 43 mpg with regular fuel @ $3.00 C-Max MPG mixed (after dead battery) - 36.7 mpg with regular fuel @ $3.00 Saab 50,000 annual miles $5,501 Fuel Cost (no payments) (+2500 annually in repairs) C-Max 50,000 annual miles (before battery failure) $3,489 Fuel Cost (+$4000 annually in payments) C-Max 50,000 annual miles (after battery failure) $4,086 Fuel Cost (+$4000 annually in payments) Is there a small difference... absolutely. Would I rather have my previous job that my travel was 10 months (not all at once) traveling around SE Asia and miss out on seeing my kids and wife... No. I want the car that I had before the battery died. not this one that uses a great deal more gas. I must be the only person you have met that doesn't like when something they bought because they liked it, suddenly and abruptly becomes something they didn't buy after it breaks.

I have driven it in colder weather and the same weather. Somewhere I lost 7mpg over what I was getting 1 week ago in the same or cooler temps.

Oops double post.

Yeah ok and now today I drove it for 134 miles. Outside temp 40-42 F. Have driven in this range a few times and get 42-44 mpg. Today? 36.7. Something is now messed up as the ICE is barely capable of getting 20-23 mpg on a flat grade. Out of 134 69.4 were EV mode. Think about that. How bad is my ICE now on gas. On any grade the ICE is getting 8-10. Other variables. It was light rain all evening and night. I have driven this vehicle exactly the same in these conditions and never gotten mileage this bad. On the freeway I was only able to get 34mpg with cruise set at 55 for 12 miles and 65 for 4 miles. I have NEVER gotten below 40. The car is used primarily for business and I got it so I would have lower cost per mile than my saab 9-3. 37 mpg wont do it. I can't wait til it keeps doing this battery thing - great car until the 12V fails then the ICE becomes worse than a V8 on gas.

How can I be sure the SEL will be better? I like the car, but to be told "I caused" the problem by having accessory ports plugged in (though drawing no current), caused a battery discharge just isn't a fight I want to have. I did try all the 4 door hybrids and this was the best of all of them in regards to space and power. I was also able to get the price down to about 22K before taxes and fees on this one. I never wanted MFT.... I always mount my iPad mini in my vehicles as it is far superior to any infotainment system available. For me spending 3K extra for items other than seat heaters that I will never use just feels like a waste.

I'm getting the run a round on this issue at my dealer... Apparently using the C-Max like you would say, every other car on the planet is a no go. Apparently you must make sure that all power adapters are unplugged even if no phone or other device is actually plugged in to the loose cord. Now we all know this is not true, but try talking to a "technician" who knows everything and he will tell you the above. I'll just document really well and the third time it occurs I will lemon law it. My battery after driving 25 miles home died 5 hours after I parked it in front of my home. Yet cords drawing no power, while the vehicle is in Park, ignition off, keys out and locked is the problem. Guess I will start pricing the Camry Hybrid, or Jetta Hybrid

So according to technician none of the TSB's apply to my car... He says I caused the battery to lose charge by: 1. leaving a charger in the charging adapter 2. Leaving a cord in the USB adapter... Mind you I have always done that with this vehicle... and every other vehicle I have owned. I knew better than to buy a Ford. Guess I will be waiting until it does it for the 3rd time and just telling ford to buy the thing back.

Add my 2014 cmax SE to the list. Bought it end of October. 3152 miles now. Dead battery jumped and took to dealer. I will be using PA lemon law if it happens 2 more times.