@raadsel Thank you for the info. It look like there is an 8K incentive on the energi right now, so that makes it very affordable. The heater part is very interesting. Is it better only if I let it warm up plugged or is it the same (the heater uses the ICE)? I have not learned the technical terms for it yet (I think it's type 1 vs 2) but more than likely I'd only be able to 110 volt charging. We have a decent service at our house, but I doubt it's up to the 240 charging w/o some serious modification.