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According to Ford, the following conditions will affect C-Max mileage by up to the amount noted: Speed: 75 mph vs 65 mph - 7 mpg Outside Temp: 40 deg F vs 70 deg F - 5 mpg Other factors are the break-in period (up to 6,000 miles), winter blend fuels and of course driving behavior (acceleration, braking regen, anticipation, etc)

Great review, very detailed and informative. I noticed the 7 second 0 - 60 time too, awesome! I also noticed it said they were able to get it to stay in EV mode to almost 70 mph. What's great about the C-Max is you have "the tools" (Li-ion battery, EV speeds up to 62 mph, Brake coach, EV+, eco cruise, etc) to get great mileage if you want , but you don't have to give up "real car" performance. Their comparison to the Prius was pretty spot on, the Prius does force compromises on the driver, like a noisy cabin, crashing suspension, limp steering, poor handling, cheap interior parts)

You are probably seeing the "Performing Scheduled Maintenance" screen. This occurs when MyFordTouch system reboots itself. There are several reasons it might reboot itself. It might be due to a cell phone connecting that hasn't been updated in a while, or a cell phone that hasn't been rebooted in a while (its recommended to reboot cell phones once a week). It may me be due to too many things happening when the system is trying to start up, things like the address books downloading, cell phone connecting, the driver pressing buttons, etc. You can turn off the automatic address book download feature to reduce the number of things happening upon start up. It may be because that's what computers do sometimes. There is another update of MyFordTouch that's available soon that will improve the system more. However, the MyFordTouch system is separate from the driving portion of the vehicle, so an error on the touch screen won't impact the ability to start the car or drive the car. If the car won't go into ready mode, you may not have your foot on the brake when you pressed the start button.

These are the speeds that the EPA uses to derive the EPA Highway rating

Consumer Reports has egg on their face. CR should understand by now that hybrids perform differently in tests and a lot factors play into mileage results. CR's Prius was below EPA city estimates by 19 mpg. The Prius C is off by a huge amount. CR should try to understand hybrids and not demonize them with sensationalized headlines.

The C-Max doesn't compete with the Prius, or the Prius C, it competes with the Prius V, which gets 41 mpg. As all the reviews have confirmed, the C-Max provides a driving experience that is light years better than any of the Prius'

Your results seem to be consistent with what I've seen posted elsewhere. 55 MPH = 54-55 MPG 65 MPH = 42-44 MPG 75 MPH = 35-39 MPG Thanks for posting the results.

Good results, especially since they didn't resort to the typical hyper-miling techniques, like driving below the speed limit. "They felt they could beat the 47 mpg given their skill set and the features and engineering that Ford has built into this new C-Max. They were surprised to achieve 60 mpg at the end of the run of city and highway driving. Especially since they did not resort to sometimes used tactics in hyper-mile tests of folding side mirrors to improve aerodynamics and driving well under the speed limits to optimize the fuel performance." "The approximately 50 mile hyper-mile route covered all types of Los Angeles area road and traffic that one might expect to experience in everyday driving of the 2013 C-Max Hybrid." So who on here is going to top this result?

Good information, and good mileage, especially at those lower temps.

The amount of fuel you put in can vary widely from fill-up to fill-up based on the a number of factors.

I think Aptos posting more threads like this shows demonstrates he is pushing a particular agenda, rather than being balanced and inclusive with all the data. For example: "However, Car and Driver noted that the Toyota Camry Hybrid and Hyundai Sonata Hybrid averaged 30 mpg and 27 mpg, respectively, in its tests." What a shock, the vehicle that Aptos claims gets 50mpg, only delivered 30mpg when Car and Driver tested it. Car and Driver is getting a whopping 33% below the EPA mileage in the Toyota Camry Hybrid. Consumer Reports Prius gets 32 mpg. What a shocker. The fact of the matter is the actual mileage of vehicles varies widely based on driving style. This is even more true for hybrids. Posting repetative threads trying to push a particular viewpoint is getting old. And that's not my imagination.

Optimizing for closer to 70 mph would negatively impact the efficiency at lower speeds. That's great if most people are averaging 70 mph, but they aren't. On freeways and highways in more congested areas and urban centers, the flow of traffic is more likely low 60s, if you're lucky. The posted speed limit in areas like that is at most 65 mph. That would be the maximum speed you can legally travel, not the slowest. The maximum speed in states like New York, PA, MA, CT, VT, NH, NJ is 65 mph. Other states have higher speed, but that's usually only outside of the cities. California DMV: "The maximum speed limit on most California highways is 65 mph. You may drive 70 mph where posted. Unless otherwise posted, the maximum speed limit is 55 mph on two-lane undivided highways and for vehicles towing trailers.The maximum speed limit on most California highways is 65 mph. You may drive 70 mph where posted. Unless otherwise posted, the maximum speed limit is 55 mph on two-lane undivided highways and for vehicles towing trailers." So given all that, I don't think optimizing for closer to 70 mph is a good idea.

Yea, I don't stress too much about mpgs, although it can be fun at times to try and maximize mpgs, as long as I'm not impacting other people in traffic. I get irritated by the hyper-milers trying to get an extra couple mpgs by crawling along or accelerating slowly away from lights.

One thing the dealer told me is that you need to stand in the middle of the bumper for the system to work. If you stand too far to either side, it won't work. You also have to have the key with you at the back of the car. This is part of the safety feature to make sure you really want to open it, and to make sure it doesn't open when you don't want it to.

Another thing I found that sounds like a good idea is, once your phone book is downloaded to the car, turn off the Auto Phonebook feature. This will speed things up, otherwise each time you start the car, the system will check your phone to see if any changes have been made on the phonebook database

Before you hook up an iPod or other similar media device, make sure the firmware on the iPod is up to date (through iTunes). The same goes for cell phones. Also, if you have any problems, reboot the iPod (and cell phones) about once a week, which means fully powering down your device. This clears out garbage from the device and then it will play better with other systems like MyFordTouch. Another good thing to do is run SyncMyiTunes on your music database. This makes sure all the metadata is cleaned up so Sync can recognize it. If you don't, Sync may have a hard time indexing the music. SyncmyiTunes is at: sync-my-iTunes.software.informer.com/

What I'm saying is when you look at the EPA's highway test, with a top speed of 60 and an average speed of 48, it seems very achievable. I think some people are defining highway mileage as what they personally drive on the highway, like driving a steady 70mph. That's not what the EPA tests however. I wish the EPA would test that because that would be more real life.

It sounds like you do get the rated 47mpg when your driving is similar to the EPA test scenario.

Yes, I posted that on the other thread. Mileage is adjusted with a cold weather test, a test using air conditioning, and what they call a "high speed" test, which isn't that high because the average speed is still 48.3 mph but it includes 80 mph for only about 20 seconds. Given these tests, I don't think its too hard to match the EPA certified 47mpg. What would be more meaningful to me is how many mpgs a car gets at 65mph, 70mph and 75mph. The faster you go, mileage decreases at a non-linear rate due to wind resistance being non-linear. EPA Highway Test: EPA "High Speed" test

Yes, the poll isn't working right. The poll only accepts an answer if you select Yes, if you select No problems, it says you have to answer all the questions and won't go any further

According to cars.com, Sunnyvale Ford is showing one in inventory.

Very cool feature!

Thanks for the speed by speed results, that's helpful.

"The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has officially certified the new Ford C-MAX Hybrid at 47 mpg city, 47 mpg highway and 47 mpg combined fuel economy, which equates to a range of 570 miles on a single tank of gasoline." Per the EPA, highway mileage does not mean constant cruising at 65 mph or 70 mph, it means an average speed of 48 mph and a top speed of 60 mph.

Average speed of the city test is 21.2 mph over 11 mi with 18% of the time spent "idling"