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And to further clarify, PMI via IDS (or FJDS if you're not at a dealership) will update the calibration on a module if the module is not using the latest version I saw a comment on the cyanlabs discord that someone took their Fusion Energi into a dealership and they said the dealer complained of the module taking 3 hours for an update...which kinda is making me scratch my head because these TCUs are all supposed to have come from the refurbishment facility with the latest calibration But yes per David and I's experiences, if you have a H series TCU and flash the UM calibration on it, you should get value charging back and in general have a fully working FordPass app like you had the dealership do it! You may need to change your first line on your as built to get remote start/unlock/lock to work, David posted the only part that you really need, the 2nd part of the first 4 digits of that line. If you're braver and more frugal than me you could get a K series TCU and try flashing the -UM calibration. Also @David_Tucker4 you should really update to 3.4 ? Thanks to @cr08 for not giving up and keeping this thread updated!

The campaign is outright stopping in May so no, and unless your car is a Fusion Energi you'll need a less common TCU to even do a diy retrofit; given how the part model for the TCU that the Cmax and Focus Electric need is explicitly stated as also compatible for F150s in that popular F150 forum post(H and J from an Escape or Transit), the price even from parts wreckers of that TCU has gone from $90 in 2019 when the post first appeared to $200+ recently while newer K and L series TCUs, which possibly might be only compatible with the Fusion go for much less

For those of you with 2013 cars: I took a peek at a 2013 C-Max Energi electrical diagram and it's the exact same as all other years in regards to the TCU, so I don't think there's any technical reason as to why the 2013 isn't on the list... you're definitely going to be paying for parts and .8hours of labor but there's no difference that I could tell

I tried faking out the dealership tool by running it with the car off but it wouldn't bring up the menu I expected, which is a screen that allows you to manually input in a part number and an as built you want to upload to the module, and which also gets uploaded to Ford (this is a normal trick mechanics use to program other modules that fail on the car, since by default the tool for the init process first tries to pull an as built off the module then reprograms the "new" module with that saved as built) but it just kept saying it couldn't find the TCU and didn't bring that menu up...I suspect if I get my hands on an actual retrofit TCU and run that init process I might be able to change my car into a 4g car in the backend and then I could swap back in my Escape TCU but given how it costs $50 for 2 days of access to the dealership tools and required me to buy a more expensive OBD2 adapter these are going to be expensive experiments?

For the first line I loaded the as built from my original tcu and for the 2nd(as the motocraft website doesn't have the 2nd) I loaded from an officially retrofitted Fusion Energi Not trying to be a downer of course but I think the smoking gun is that even after everything I tried my car apparently still shows as equipped with MFM/is a "3G car" vs that retrofitted Fusion Energi shows as equipped with FordPass/is a "4g car"...that dealership tool init I think is the key to value charging working as it uploads the new TCU part number to Ford's backend and probably does some other stuff. But since that dealership tool init only accepts certian part numbers that corresponds to retrofit kit TCUs we're currently dead in the water ☹️

Again, thanks for all the legwork! ? Given how even MFM , and now FordPass can set (so assumedly push the values from the server to the TCU) value charging times automatically based on what you say who your electric utility is via the MFM website or FordPass app, I always suspected there was a very tight coupling between value charging and the TCU, although now we know of how tight And yeah it would depend on where your K series TCU came from, if it's from a car that used I-CAN to communicate to the TCU it might work...while the F150 guys said that downgrading to J series firmware re enables HS3 they didn't say it re enables I-CAN Which is why I spent more for the Escape TCU, as I was 100% certain it supports I-CAN and David Tucker's experience of course And I dunno about you but even after MFM got it's fresh coat of paint in 2020 it still looks like an early 2010s app, FordPass looks much better and I will admit having LTE makes lock/unlock/remote start work much faster!

Nice to hear from the first brave soul that did it? Unfortunately I'm not too hopeful in Ford re enabling Value Charging for us. I suspect we might have to talk to some right to repair activists to help us apply pressure to get that to happen if the feature continues to be broken. Given how the dealership tools won't run the initialization sequence for the modem (which probably changes our cars from "3g" to"4g" cars in Ford's backend) unless they're official TCU retrofit kit TCUs, at the minimum Ford isn't encouraging people to do the swap DIY

HJ5T - 14G087-UE has FCC ID: LHJ-FAN in it but I wouldn't be surprised if it has similar characteristics to FANW Yeah FCC Part 15 and all that, I'm not surprised that the TCU only wants to be used with Ford blessed antennas, although that Amazon one I have has only 3dBi of gain.. makes sense my reception is pretty low in comparison to the numbers other people post on the F150 forum with their official antennas

I mentioned that I saw a gentleman on the MFM forum post about his DIY swap but given how he didn't have my variable of "broken APIM" yeah it's not a 1-1 experience although he didn't explicitly post that he had value charging Unfortunately my old 3G tcu is dead as a doornail, it doesn't show it's ESN on About Sync and doesn't come up on my diagnostic tools so plugging it in won't do anything ☹️ And yes, disconnecting/losing communications to your tcu greys out the Value Charging button entirely...and I've been informed that per Ford's car database my car still shows up as a 3G car when an upgraded car shows up a 4g car

Appreciate your help! And while I haven't talked to F150 Chief I've been in contact with others on that community. In addition FJDS/IDS didn't like the escape tcu I had, when I ran the PMI process it said "This routine only supports installing a TCU modem upgrade kit. Install the 4g TCU upgrade kit according to the provided instructions" so there must be a white list of part numbers valid for the upgrade. I think at this point I've exausted all options☹️ And while my EVSE has it's own timers so it's not a huge loss it still annoys me that I lost a feature/my experience serves as a warning

That is the As built I loaded onto the unit and I just checked and it looks about right, and the TCU ESN shows up on About Sync... I am really stumped that everything (battery soc, mileage, gas capacity, lock, unlock, remote start, even the cars location) but anything related to value charging works in FordPass and worked even with an Escapes' config in the TCU and that value charging menu continues to be blank even after applying a proper AsBuilt for the TCU and multiple sync master resets, mutiple TCU resets, so forth ?‍♂️

Forscan has a feature to load as built from OASIS so I did that, minus disabling Nav 7D0-01-01 2328 6503 800C 7D0-01-02 0088 1680 0A04 7D0-02-01 5553 0106 C049 7D0-02-02 8200 1000 006D 7D0-02-03 0000 DC 7D0-03-01 0001 0000 00DC 7D0-04-01 0100 0401 00E2 7D0-04-02 0001 DE 7D0-05-01 17A2 1798 286D 7D0-05-02 BE9C 7D0-06-01 805E 7D0-07-01 1104 3300 0027 7D0-07-02 0000 0682 0068 7D0-07-03 0004 306A 007F 7D0-07-04 6446

Sorry for the double post but I re-read your post and I missed this. I crossed checked the configuration from an actual 4g upgraded Fusion Energi with what my 3g modem had before; there's a decoder ring spreadsheet out there and the values in the 4g Fusion Energi config are pretty much the same from the 3g config my car came with minus some values related to the platform of the car. Therefore, its likely that the config on my TCU is correct and heck the configuration doesn't seem to matter considering that pretty much everything but settings related to charging worked even with the config from the Escape. While I have not updated the calibration level (or firmware) of the TCU installed in my car I'm not holding out on that changing anything ? I'm hoping this is some weird issue that only my car has because of some bad luck,and that the dealership tool's activation will fix it but yeah I rather not lead someone down a path where there's a chance they lose a feature even one so minor

(No sarcasm intended here) Totally appreciate all the legwork on this! but I have a totally different issue from the person who posted the Value Charging pic, my Value Charging screen is totally blank (there's no text talking about the FordPass app,the bottom buttons,etc) with the exception of the pencil logo... which doesn't even have the word "Default" in the row, FordPass doesn't show any locations where I charged at, nor do I even get charge logs. No one explicitly said this in the posts I saw regarding the 3G era swaps but I suspect some of those people saw the same thing I did but on their Sync 2 system. Also,unless I somehow missed it, no one with an Energi publicly posted about DIY'ing an upgrade from 2g to 3g so I don't have any past experiences to go on either ☹️ To further complicate this, my car has been in this value charge empty screen state since I switched APIMs from the original older nav unit to a newer non nav APIM. However, my 3g TCU upon the APIM swap was in a weird state that I couldn't get MFM to send the activation prompt, then eventually stopped responding via Forscan... Given how I loaded a config from a non nav car onto the APIM to no avail with my dead 3g or working 4g TCU I have no other ideas beyond some provisioning error on Ford's backend. The specialized reader I need for the dealership activation just came so I'll be trying it out tonight...

I imagine one of the people who posted in this topic would've mentioned it if it didn't work for them

The kit antenna is a 4g antenna that also is wired in a way that the TCU likes so it doesn't throw a code;I personally didn't use one of the Ford official antennas cause an equivalent (the Ford PIFA antennas the F150 guys keep taking about) cost $35+, requires to be bolted into the body while the one on Amazon I linked in one of my messages cost $10, but still causes the TCU to throw a code. The code is harness though. The Amazon one added 20 units of unknown measure to my reception so it does work, but if you're really in a pinch and have strong ATT coverage you don't even need the antenna as the TCU has its own built in antenna.

For a non Energi vehicle, as long as your car originally came with a TCU, I suspect you won't have issues. If I'm not mistaken the people having issues activating their app in the F150 thread are...well per the thread name of course, trying to retrofit a car that didn't have a TCU before. Even if the brand new modem came with no configuration and the lack of configuration causes an issue (which you would see a DTC from the TCU), if you save your current TCU configuration via Forscan or use the motocraft as built site you would have the proper config, as anything beyond the first 2 lines of the config are common for all TCUs i've seen. I do retract my suggestion for the retrofit for Energi cars though. I suspect more and more given I've ruled everything else out and given some help from some folks, and how people lost their value charging the same way I did during the 3G swap, that my value charging issue is because Ford's servers still think that my car still has a 3g modem. I am going to use the dealership tools to do a module initialization in the hope that that process updates my hardware config on Ford's system, so that the system sees the 4g modem....otherwise I guess I am totally dead in the water in regards to value charging .

My car is a MY16 and came with Nav, I replaced the original APIM with a 2017 build non nav unit because the APIM broke. I loaded the original NAV as built into the replacement APIM. While EV+ is triggering, when I try to add a default profile for value charging after filling out the weekend and weekday times the profile doesn't save. In addition, while I can see the reference to saved locations in FordPass (like MFM) no locations are being saved, and adding a manual charging profile in FordPass makes the app throw an error. Even loading an APIM as built from a 2016 without nav changes nothing. I see a reference in the workshop manual that the TCU polls for charge location data to the GPSM and I would assume the Escape config isn't doing that polling... perhaps loading the Asbuilt from a retrofit TCU will fix my issue! On that note, GPS enhanced ev mode(EV+) has the IPC talking to the SOBDMC , which is also polling for GPS charge location data, which is probably why EV+ is still working, it's it's own isolated system. And yeah, I considered buying an OEM shark fin with the LTE antenna built in but running wires underneath the headliner is low on my list of things I want to do?

TL:DR After replacing the existing TCU with part number HJ5T-14G087-UE off an Escape, I was immediately able to activate it via the Fordpass app with no problems, and all the expected features work on the app. I imagine HJ5T-14G087-UF will work as well. You could also buy the retrofit TCU from a dealership parts department and install it yourself(although this might be difficult to do as Ford requires their dealers return the 3g TCUs), which I think might be a good idea for non Energi cars. You will also need an might want an LTE antenna or the TCU will throw a code for better reception, but if you have strong AT&T reception you'll be able to activate FordPass without it as the TCU has its own antenna. The TCU will still throw a code unless you use an official Ford PIFA antenna, if anyone finds out what that flat antenna's part number is in the official kit use please post it. I did no As Built changes on the APIM or TCU. I retract my suggestion for the DIY swap for Energi cars because you will lose Value Charging. Getting to the TCU: You will need: 8mil, 10 mil socket T25, T27 bits panel removal tools will be useful. The TCU is in under the "left hand (driver's side) loadspace panel", which is the panel that goes from the hatch all the way to the rear driver door and has the grate for the battery fan. To remove this panel you will need to remove the plastic panels that cover the high voltage battery in the hatch, remove the plastic trim piece that covers the hatch latch area, remove the plastic trim panel on the floor attached to the "loadspace panel" , remove the cooling fan grate, and then pull on the loadspace panel from the hatch. The TCU is not the big module branded Continental (that's the PATS module) that's nearer to you, the TCU is further into the passenger compartment, you'll know if you found the right thing if you see a module with some foam padding and a sticker with an IMEI on it. The TCU is attached to the body via some push in rivets, which is where some panel removal tools will come in handy. Note that the HJ5T module is significantly bigger than the original module, but I was able to make it fit in the loadspace panel. The size difference is why I suggest buying the retrofit TCU over using one out of an Escape. The official docs show that they don't have a special smaller TCU and so they use velcro to attach it to the body (https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2021/MC-10204043-0001.pdf) I placed the external antenna on the body next to the small window on the C pillar, I guess I'll find out if that's a good place for it to be when I go to places that don't have good AT&T reception. (In particular, officially they put the antenna in a similar area to where I put mine, upright on the top plastic piece that surrounds the window) Set up a FordPass account and add your cars VIN if you haven't. If you're lucky, after installing the new TCU, you'll see some serial in "Onboard Modem Serial Number(ESN)" in "About Sync" and you should see an "Activate Vehicle" button under a paragraph labeled "Sync Connect" under your car in the FordPass app. You'll see a prompt on your system for "requested access" and after allowing your app should be good to go! There are a set of troubleshooting steps in this F150 Forum thread if you aren't as lucky with activating, and some steps if you still have Sync 2 in your car(but you should consider upgrading!). Also, my value charging is still broken ☹️ I suspect its because this car came with Nav but I put in a non nav APIM to replace it when it broke.

Yeah the H Series TCUs are very expensive because the F150 guys originally used them for their swaps... I paid way more for the H series TCU than I wanted to (mainly that the L Series are pretty cheap) but as far as I can tell beyond trying to actually source the 4G upgrade kit from the dealership an H or J series from an Escape is the only TCU that our cars will support because the other TCUs don't support I-CAN thankfully I paid less than what the dealership was charging for the kit and this all happened because my 3G TCU seems to have bit the dust, I got annoyed that I lost value charging lol

Hi folks, owner of a 2016 Energi here, I will be attempting to DIY the swap! But given the discussion on the MFM forum and how the person had to first activate his originally from an Escape TCU in an actual Escape I suspect that my also from an Escape TCU will also not work with its current config. If you did the swap for your 2017 Energi, would you mind dropping me a PM with your VIN, or if you are able, provide the as built for the new TCU that they installed? I will also be posting that as built for future folk.