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I finally started a "Death Wobble" thread. http://fordcmaxhybridforum.com/topic/6326-death-wobble/

I did a little research about the CMax death wobble while being towed... I gave up! A couple of weeks ago we traded the Liar for a Jeep Cherokee, joined a forum and found a possible answer. Here is a link to the electric steering problem when towing a 2014 - (early build) 2016 Cherokee. Please note that this thread is 56 pages long. Post #'s 1 to 8 will get you started, # 13 states "According to postings on the Family Motor Home Association website, it happens with different brands of motor homes, different chassis (front gas or diesel pusher), different tow bar systems, different braking systems. The only constant seems to be that they are towing Jeep Cherokees" Post #71 pg 8 is where the forum finds out that Jeep is aware and working on the problem. Post # 87 pg 9 is interesting and more evidence that the elec steering is causing the Cmax problem. Post #92 pg 10 is where the forum finds out about Jeeps fix. "A Jeep official said the company knows of several dozen Cherokee owners who have experienced the problem. For those owners, FCA will “provide a complimentary jumper wire harness and switch to ensure the vehicle’s EPS system has power to function while it is being flat-towed. These components have been engineered and validated by FCA US LLC and will be made available to all customers through MOPAR, as early as January 29. In addition, all Cherokee owners will be contacted directly by FCA US and provided with updated instructions for flat-towing. These instructions supersede all previous instructions. Also, the vehicle’s online owners manual will be updated.” " http://jeepcherokeeclub.com/337-towing-towed/119874-severe-shaking-problem-towing-behind-motorhome.html A quick comment about towing the cmax. The liar was a great toad, absolutely no problems for 13k towed miles. MPG not so good, 2 checks and 2 fixes from Ford finally got the MPG to 42/33 notice the 33 highway... once a liar always a liar! :lol: :love_shower: GLAD it's gone, I'm back to beating the EPA... in our 2015 and 2016 cars.

Our towing experience. In 2013 I tried to follow the owners manual but the ICE wouldn't start. Nice cool day HVB charged = NO ICE. I ran the AC for several minutes and the ICE started. After another 200 miles the ICE still wouldn't start, till I put it in gear and pushed on the motor home, wife asked "what was that??". It's now 2016 and we have 11644 towed miles with 56310 miles on the odometer. After several attempts to start the ICE the first yr I don't even try, just hook it and go. Transmission is still supper quite and smooth. Our most recent trip was from Dallas/Ft. Worth to Panama City Beach (834 miles). From Florida we towed to Tunica Mississippi. Then on to Canyon City Colorado where the motor home will stay till fall. Total towed miles this trip 2490. This is the second time we've made this trip. Liar was built in Jan 13, we bought him (women don't lie) in March of 2013. We're home in the cmax 710 non towed miles.

"when I hover my mouse over the subject" "I don't try hovering but just go by the topic headings after I click "New Content" -- let me see what happens...nope, just see "View Topic", which doesn't seem particularly troublesome" Anybody open the new thread "Virus" by new member 78Pinto? 78Pinto started the thread at 9:16, logged off at 9:17...HUM. Hovering your mouse over 78Pinto tells a lot, sure would be nice to hover over the subject!

eli Our 2013 owners manual, 3rd printing says it's a 3457AK. Here's a link to autozone but any auto supply/WalMart should have it. http://www.autozone.com/electrical-and-lighting/turn-signal-light-mini-bulb/sylvania-parking-light-mini-bulb/514808/?_requestid=4179150 If you have small strong hands you might be able to change the bulb without removing the headlight housing from the car. There's a 3" rubber cover over the bulb base, it comes off easy. Here's a thread about changing a headlight bulb. The bulb you want is the one on the right in the video in post #20 by joe. http://fordcmaxhybridforum.com/topic/814-replacing-headlight-bulbs/

No IT MIGHT be why we have not had any problems. I'm going to start another thread about this. Maybe we can get our engineer members to post their thoughts about why some people are reporting a serious problem while towing their cmax and other members report no towing problems.

We have a Blue Ox base plate but use a Roadmaster tow bar with adapters to the Blue Ox. Something else to consider, diesel versus gas, our motor home is a gasser Ford F53 chassis which means it's long way from the hitch to the rear axle.

A few people have accidently left their cmax in the "ON" position their odometer runs, not good for your warranty. We have a little over 10K towed miles with no problems but I did have a 4 wheel alignment (it needed it). You might want to get a 4 wheel alignment before towing in the on position.

I know way too much about working 12 on 12 off, $ is good and you don't have time to spend it ;). Your tires are good tires just not LRR's, probably costing you 4 or more mpg's. If high MPG is your thing you should consider the oem Michelin. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Energy+Saver+A%2FS&partnum=25VR7ESAS&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Ford&autoYear=2014&autoModel=C-MAX%20Hybrid&autoModClar=SE

Back on topic: Is it just fbov and me who have many small and a few big problems with this forum? Example: When I log into the Cmax forum I go straight to "New Content" just like ALL other forums I belong to. One of the many small problem with the Ford C-max Hybrid Form is when I hover my mouse over the subject "Another tire tread... sorry" I see "View Result" But when I hover my mouse over the subject (Generator Exhaust Extensions) "on the "Georgetown - Forest River Forums" is see "Has anyone made an extension for their generator to get the exhaust out from under the slide" which doesn't interest me because our generator isn't under a slide out, so I don't open the thread. How does Chrome, etc handle this? Edit: for our younger, non PC laptop forum members. "A computer mouse is a pointing device (hand control) that detects two-dimensional motion relative to a surface. This motion is typically translated into the motion of a pointer on a display, which allows a smooth control of the graphical user interface."

I did a Google search for "how to get chrome to always open on my home page" thinking this was a good excuse to FIX my phone. https://www.google.com/search?as_q=&as_epq=how+do+get+chrome+to+always+open+on+my+home+page&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=&as_occt=any&safe=images&as_filetype=&as_rights=#as_qdr=all&q=%22how+to+get+chrome+to+always+open+on+my+home+page%22 I thought about reading ALL 27.5M hits :lol: Back on topic, WHY should Frank have to install/learn a new system for ONE forum?

UH... Greetings and Welcome Jayders We used a tow dolly the first couple of trips for the cmax. Nothing special just park it on the dolly JUST DO NOT set the parking brake. Because the cmax is front wheel drive the back wheels are free wheeling if the parking brake is OFF! #1 reason we bought (and still have ) the cmax was so we could tow it 4 wheel down, NO problems at all except chipmunks seem to like the wire I ran for the extra lights I added to the rear light housing.

Like Frank I have these problems + a few he didn't mention. Here are my work arounds. "I can't quote." The only way I've found to quote is to use the "MultiQuote" option, quote 2 posts then delete (backspace) the quote I don't want. I quoted posts #1 and #6 then hit the "more reply options" at the bottom of the page then delete #6. "I can't add links." To add links (or paste) I have to hit the "BB Code mode" first button on the top "Reply to..." tool bar, then I can paste the link or other copied items, then hit the "BBCode mode" button again. A few users suffer with this :lol: forum, as mentioned by Frank and others we are members of SEVERAL other forums and this is the only one we have problems with? This is being typed on a DELL Inspiron 5558, Intel i7 cpu, Windows 10 my desktop was running internet explorer professional 7, upgraded to Windows 10, SAME problems.

"- Idk what weight oil is in the engine & tires were brand new prior to purchase" Both of these will make a big difference in your MPG. I ALWAYS change the oil/filter in any used car I buy ASAP. What tires did they put on? If they aren't LRR tires then that would be a few MPG's. oem Michelin are the best. Energy Saver A/S http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Energy+Saver+A%2FS&partnum=25VR7ESAS&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Ford&autoYear=2013&autoModel=C-MAX%20Hybrid&autoModClar=SE You should check your air filter, it might be the original.

"I believe the data for TFT is buried..." YEP for some reason the powers that be :lol2: have decided that "thou shall not search for ANY 3 letter words/acronyms... LED, PID, PDF, ETC!