Billyk24

This charging mode runs ICE to charge the HVB which one can’t do in the Energi. ----- are you claiming it is impossible to recharge (state of charge) the HVB by coasting/letting your foot off the gas pedal?

Lifting your foot off the gas pedal and coasting will induce regenerative charging while in the "auto" and "EV later" mode. You don't have to use the "new" mode.

the links no longer work. Ebay is the next step.

Running EV in piecemeal fashion as Raj would state, is working well for me. Only have 17k on my Energi as I don't drive it much during the winter months and try to avoid during blistering hot summer days.

North Carolina? Better check what you HVB capacity is as heat is a killer for this.

This is a little "off-target" for this thread but want to provide some information. My RAV4 hybrid that has three motor generators (the third powers the rear wheels only) like the up coming Lincoln Corsair PHEV. In a nine mile drive home that featured a 0.7 mile downhill, I got 64.7 mpg and the state of charge increased to 77% at the bottom of the downhill. I had a 13% increase in the state of charge on the downhill run which is double what my CMax Energi does. That third MG significantly increases your SOC compared to the standard two (MG1-MG2). I was not trying to use all the "hypermiling tricks" for this drive and did not use the EV only set button on the vehicle as I drove as I normally would with normal to light traffic. I's sure many of you could have "beaten" the 64.7 mpg figure. Those of you considering a newer vehicle may want to look at those that have a third MG setup.

At this time, there is no EPA ratings for the Lincoln Corsair PHEV.

A better option? The PHEV Lincoln Corsair will have AWD (the Escape PHEV will not) via a third motor/generator that solely powers the rear wheels. This is the setup I have in 2016 Toyota RAV4 hybrid that replaced my 2005 Escape AWD hybrid this past October. This Toyota setup produces/creates much more regenerative charging than my 2017 Cmax Energi does and can push upper 30's (MPG) for gentle driving conditions. The Lincoln Corsair will have the same engine size, same hybrid battery size and same transmission as the Ford Escape PHEV that is also due sometime this year. The HP rating is suppose to be 266 but I do not know about the torque numbers. Here is one link: https://automotivemap.com/2020-lincoln-corsair-phev-debut-2641435102.html https://www.thedrive.com/news/31102/2020-lincoln-corsair-grand-touring-plug-in-hybrid-debuts-at-2019-la-auto-show

Here is what it looks like, the hood is closed and cable hanging out for the connection to the trickle charger.

I believe there will be a hybrid and plug in hybrid Lincoln Corsair. Here is a link: https://www.autoblog.com/2019/11/20/2021-lincoln-corsair-grand-touring-plug-in-hybrid-revealed-la-auto-show/

Arriving soon (summer) at your Lincoln dealership. It has the same battery pack as the plug in Escape and same engine (2.5L). Suppose to be rated at 266 Hp. Suppose to have only a range of 25 miles in EV! Big difference: A third motor generator will operate the rear wheels and recapture regenerative braking/coasting energy. This setup allows for AWD as found in the RAV4 hybrid. The Escape plug in hybrid does not feature AWD;. Both the Lincoln and Escape plug in models feature the CMax 3.3KW on board charger which only allows 10-12 miles per hour of charging on a 240 volt system. Liquid cooled HVB pack which is a significant upgrade from the Cmax's air cooled battery pack. No real information found on the Lincoln website but I got this from a search and other sites.

I got my hands on a low (17,000) mileage 2016 RAV4 Hybrid after my 2005 FEH flunked the state inspection due to rust. 2013-2018 RAV4 Hybrid are of the same "design". The RAV4 H has three (3) electronic motors with the third one propelling the rear wheels and capturing regenerative braking/coasting energy. IT regenerates at a higher rate than the 2017 Cmax energy that I have. On an 8 percent 0.7 mile long downhill I usually pick up 11-12% SOC increases with the RAV4 Hybrid which is about 5 more than my CMax will do. The AWD design in this vehicle is unlike the FEH in that the front wheels really need to "slip" before it will engage at speeds above 15 mph. It engages, operates and then will quickly disengage when the front wheels stop slippage where as my 4WD 2005 FEH would engage and then gradually disengage after every time I pressed the accelerator. I have seen it engage at upper 30 mph speeds but no higher and is rumored to not operate at above 45 mph. The stock and premium sound systems are poor and I ended up replacing all speakers and adding a subwoofer to obtain adequate sound. The navigational unit is terrible when compared to my Cmax. The mileage (mpg) is significantly greater than my 2005 FEH and during many weekends in the past twelve weeks, I was driving long distances on the interstates usually holding around 64-65 mph and averaging 30-33 when temperatures in the 20-30s. Lower with colder temperatures or strong headwinds. The 2019/2020 RAV4 Hybrid has a fuel tank issue in which owners can not put in a full tank amount of fuel for unknown reasons. A plug-in hybrid is arriving this summer but it is unknown whether this is air or liquid cooled.

It is March 20, 2020 and apparent the Energi site is gone forever.

No kidding, Raja's post were excellent and he worked in and had an education in the field. The new Energi Michigan owner needs to obtain a third party hardware device to monitor items such as HVB temperature, SOC, amps and other. It would go a long way to helping understand how the car operates and how to drive it without causing excess battery degradation.,

a new HVB is about 7.6 kWh. ------5.6KWh is the new capacity. Not sure where you get the 7.6 figure. The eCVT needs the HVB to function. As long as the HVB will charge and start the vehicle, you can operate the vehicle even with a degraded HVB capacity.

The Energi battery can degrade quickly when one drives it excessively in EV. An owner in North Carolina, drove the first 20,000 miles with only 2,000 in the ICE and suffered a 1kWh capacity loss! He spent the next 40,000 miles driving differently and claims only a 0.5kWh loss in capacity. The Energi is not a BEV and should not be driven as it is one. Those posting excessively high mpg figures are likely degrading their battery. These individuals frequently point out they still get 20 miles per charge without realizing a significant portion is coming from MG2-regenerative braking/coasting.

second the thought for a trickle charger

, (I still think they should honor the 30% or more loss in 10 yrs or less industry standard----that is for a liquid cooled HVB which the CMax Energi is not. The cooling design is inadequate for hot weather and the problem become worse when owners drive their CMax as if it is a BEV. Temperature and excessive loads (amps >70) placed upon the vehicle leads to premature KWh capacity loss. An Energi owner, using he EV mode in piecemeal fashion showed after 46,000 miles he had 0.1 kWh loss in capacity (5.6 is new and he had 5.5).

Nothing yet. As I stated before, might be a signal to move onto the Escape Hybrid and/or Mach E as these vehicle will be around for some time.

MG1 and MG2 exists with MG2 providing this function.

Same issue. I believe it will never again rise from the graveyard. Too bad. Might also be a warning that owners should think about moving onto a newer vehicle/plug-in/battery electric vehicle as help will no longer exist.

Some people resort to "shore power" to heat the cabin prior to driving. Seated heats, EV later usage is better than hybrid mode.

Weather related if you are in a cold(er) area of the country. Battery is not leaking. I have a 17 Energi.

Please post a link if it still exists.

Get this. My 2016 RAV4 Hybrid was the dealership for an all wheel alignment. When it was done, the service manager told me the rear passenger side is non-adjustable! So I obtained a three wheel alignment. Service manager told me I could obtain aftermarket parts to have an adjustable camber arm. What the heck. What auto company approves of such designs? Well, my wish for a better 4wd for winter conditions will have to wait until the Mustang Mach E I have on order arrives.