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Could you tell me what you liked / didn't like / liked better (C-max vs. Vue) about your Vue? I tested out one, and the ride seemed really stiff and not great mpg, like 25mpg, but otherwise nice.

75mph seems to be the sweet spot for gearing/engine load to achieve 40-50+mpg hwy! I've used "Torque" (free android app) to see a numerical instant MPG, including tenths, i.e., 45.1, 45.9 (which I've asked Ford engineers to add/include in next firmware update, they were surprised there was no numerical instant mpg- guess it was an oversight, and other Fords have it? the focus, etc? anyways they tried to find it in the left hand screen...) and thus ascertain the most efficient speed to go up a 5% grade is 73mph=23mpg, and 75mph seems to be the sweet spot (on level ground) for gearing/engine load to achieve 40-50+mpg hwy. Seems to also be why mpg is higher the faster you go. Within reason. Well, or within air resistance reason. I tested up to 90mph, and wind resistance above 75mph decreases mpg. Unless you were drafting someone else fairly (unsafely) closely (like within 15-20 feet), and that becomes a safety issue and potentially so expensive that a crash would destroy any FE savings. Granted 75mph is risking your dilithium crystals, (getting a speeding ticket) I prefer to set eco cruise at 65.1mph and let people blow steam out their ears if they get stuck behind me rather than constantly adjusting speed in light L.A. traffic or forego cruise altogether, but given this discovery, I feel more comfortable setting the cruise at 67-68mph or so without fear of ticketing and safe in the knowledge that faster is better/more efficient. Sometimes even 70-75mph if I have a front and back door...

<p>I'm not sure this is all of the chat or not, I hit refresh because it seemed like my posts were not appearing, and it seemed to change the look of it completely, so if there's stuff missing sorry- the previous post pretty much covered most of what we learned, though there are a few more nuggets, like my post that I've used "Torque" (free android app) to ascertain the most efficient speed to go up a 5% grade is 73mph=23mpg, and 75mph seems to be the sweet spot for gearing/engine load to achieve 40mpg hwy.</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <div>also, you should read it from the bottom up for the proper chronology</div> <div> </div> <div>That's a wrap. Thanks for participating in our #ConnectFord chat on #EV Thanks to John, Mazen, and Patricia for their time. #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand Reply Retweet Favorite More</div> <div> TerriAnn van Gosliga ‏@cookiesANDclogs 1m</div> <div>@Ford Thanks for the chat! #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Melissa Au ‏@momsreview4you 2m</div> <div>Thanks! Chief Engineer John Davis, Chief Electrified Powertrain Engineer Mazen Hammoud & C-MAX Brand Mgr Patricia Piedrahita #EVtalk @Ford</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Ford Motor Company ‏@Ford 3m</div> <div>To hear about future Twitter chats, get exclusive Ford content, & grow your audience, register at <a href="http://www.ConnectFord.com">http://www.ConnectFord.com</a> #EVtalk</div> <div>Collapse Reply Retweet Favorite More</div> <div>12:30 PM - 24 Sep 13 · Details</div> <div>Tweet text</div> <div>Reply to @Ford </div> <div>Image will appear as a link</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 1m</div> <div>@Ford Thanks for the chat! Always enjoy learning or helping!</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> NET Trans Mitchell ‏@nettransdrives 5m</div> <div>#evtalk #ford the only thing that your "EV" car allows you to do is walk more @fordmotorco</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Ford Motor Company ‏@Ford 5m</div> <div>.@1TallMensan Unfortunately it would take more than just the battery. Best just to buy a C-Max Energi #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Ford Motor Company ‏@Ford 9m</div> <div>@Treadmill90210 great suggestion! we will take it back to our gauge engineering team. #EVtalk</div> <div>Collapse Reply Retweet Favorite More</div> <div>12:24 PM - 24 Sep 13 · Details</div> <div>Tweet text</div> <div>Reply to @Ford </div> <div>Image will appear as a link</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 8m</div> <div>@Ford Thanks!</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 6m</div> <div>@Ford PleasePlease Please enable the SYNC calendar</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> sdaustin ‏@sdaustin 10m</div> <div>@Ford The last software update dramatically altered the way I have to drive the C-Max to get the 47mpg mark. #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> sdaustin ‏@sdaustin 11m</div> <div>@Ford Are there more software tweeks coming for the C-Max? #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Ford Motor Company ‏@Ford 11m</div> <div>This chat get too techy for you? Check out our #ConnectFord Hybrids 101 videos at <a href="http://bit.ly/16oKHHV">http://bit.ly/16oKHHV</a> #EVtalk</div> <div>Collapse Reply Retweet Favorite More</div> <div>3</div> <div>RETWEETS CrittendenAuto»Billx1000r/minWilliam A. Mattiace</div> <div>12:23 PM - 24 Sep 13 · Details</div> <div>Tweet text</div> <div>Reply to @Ford </div> <div>Image will appear as a link</div> <div> Brandon LeBlanc ‏@brandonleblanc 10m</div> <div>@Ford I want a Ford hybrid... unfortunately I just bought a new Focus last year though :-(</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Melissa Au ‏@momsreview4you 8m</div> <div>Yes for Me, no for @thedadscorner @Ford This chat get too techy for you? Check out our Hybrids101 videos at <a href="http://bit.ly/16oKHHV">http://bit.ly/16oKHHV</a> #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 7m</div> <div>@Ford what if it wasn't techy enough? ;-) Gadgetsage<-supergeek</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Shawn Kenney ‏@1TallMensan 11m</div> <div>@ford #evtalk can I upgrade my hybrid battery to an energi battery?</div> <div>Collapse Reply Retweet Favorite More</div> <div>12:22 PM - 24 Sep 13 · Details</div> <div>Tweet text</div> <div>Reply to @1TallMensan @Ford </div> <div>Image will appear as a link</div> <div> talthompson ‏@talthompson 10m</div> <div>@1TallMensan @Ford That's a very good question!</div> <div>Collapse</div> <div>1</div> <div>FAVORITE Victory Ford </div> <div>12:23 PM - 24 Sep 13 · Details</div> <div> Robert T. Shinn ‏@rtshinn 12m</div> <div>@Ford In the future, would it be possible to adjust the amount of coasting generation, if I don't want the drag/momentum loss? #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> talthompson ‏@talthompson 13m</div> <div>@triski05 @Ford #EVtalk OK. Any plans allow us bypass SYNC voice, and go directly to Siri on our iPhones by using the steering wheel switch?</div> <div> View conversation</div> <div> bikerchickbarb ‏@bikerchickbarb 13m</div> <div>@ford @MazenHammoud My wishlist: dashboard storage for cell phone/keys, better vent louvers to direct airflow, a real spare tire! #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Patricia Kellogg ‏@PatriciaKellogg 14m</div> <div>@talthompson the only answers I've seen from this #EVtalk isn't from @Ford but from a dealership in Alberta Canada. @Henrikerslev</div> <div> View conversation</div> <div> Ford Motor Company ‏@Ford 24m</div> <div>.@GabriellaH99 2/2 ^JD loves the one-handed fold-flat rear seat. All agree the car's super fun to drive. #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 22m</div> <div>@Ford #EVtalk true! it's one of my favorite places to be! also love the active noise cancellation</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 19m</div> <div>@Ford #EVtalk suggestion; 2nd lifetime average where we could select "CAR ON, PARKED" mode-I often spend a LOT of time sitting w A/C on</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 16m</div> <div>@Ford #EVtalk so "CAR ON, PARKED" mode-would not "COUNT" that time 4 ave mpg. I've gotten 70mpg on fwy in stop and go, reg 40-60mpg so I'm</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 15m</div> <div>@Ford #EVtalk so I'm quite happy with average mpg, but would like to be able to calculate a more realistic average that I get on the road</div> <div> Hide conversation Reply Delete Favorite More</div> <div>12:19 PM - 24 Sep 13 · Details</div> <div>Tweet text</div> <div>Reply to @Ford </div> <div>Image will appear as a link</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 11m</div> <div>@Ford @EVtalk the contact phone book can't handle "odd" characters, (i.e. !@#$%^&*()) when will that be fixed?</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> TerriAnn van Gosliga ‏@cookiesANDclogs 15m</div> <div>Eh? I'm seeing all the Q's but where are the A's? #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Kiki T. Bernawan ‏@triski05 15m</div> <div>Yap #BNFC @Ford: Hope you're enjoying the Q&A, we've got 15 minutes left. Keep the questions coming! #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Ford Motor Company ‏@Ford 24m</div> <div>.@GabriellaH99 2/2 ^JD loves the one-handed fold-flat rear seat. All agree the car's super fun to drive. #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 22m</div> <div>@Ford #EVtalk true! it's one of my favorite places to be! also love the active noise cancellation</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 19m</div> <div>@Ford #EVtalk suggestion; 2nd lifetime average where we could select "CAR ON, PARKED" mode-I often spend a LOT of time sitting w A/C on</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 16m</div> <div>@Ford #EVtalk so "CAR ON, PARKED" mode-would not "COUNT" that time 4 ave mpg. I've gotten 70mpg on fwy in stop and go, reg 40-60mpg so I'm</div> <div> Hide conversation Reply Delete Favorite More</div> <div>12:17 PM - 24 Sep 13 · Details</div> <div>Tweet text</div> <div>Reply to @Ford </div> <div>Image will appear as a link</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 15m</div> <div>@Ford #EVtalk so I'm quite happy with average mpg, but would like to be able to calculate a more realistic average that I get on the road</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> talthompson ‏@talthompson 17m</div> <div>#EVtalk @Ford Again, Any plansallowing us to bypass SYNC voice, and go directly to Siri on our iPhones by using the steering wheel switch?</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Ford Motor Company ‏@Ford 24m</div> <div>.@GabriellaH99 2/2 ^JD loves the one-handed fold-flat rear seat. All agree the car's super fun to drive. #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 22m</div> <div>@Ford #EVtalk true! it's one of my favorite places to be! also love the active noise cancellation</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 19m</div> <div>@Ford #EVtalk suggestion; 2nd lifetime average where we could select "CAR ON, PARKED" mode-I often spend a LOT of time sitting w A/C on</div> <div> Hide conversation Reply Delete Favorite More</div> <div>12:15 PM - 24 Sep 13 · Details</div> <div>Tweet text</div> <div>Reply to @Ford </div> <div>Image will appear as a link</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 16m</div> <div>@Ford #EVtalk so "CAR ON, PARKED" mode-would not "COUNT" that time 4 ave mpg. I've gotten 70mpg on fwy in stop and go, reg 40-60mpg so I'm</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Ford Motor Company ‏@Ford 19m</div> <div>Hope you're enjoying the Q&A, we've got 15 minutes left. Keep the questions coming! #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gabriella Harrison ‏@GabriellaH99 21m</div> <div>@momsreview4you @Ford fold flat rear seats are awesome!! #EVtalk</div> <div> View conversation</div> <div> Ford Motor Company ‏@Ford 24m</div> <div>.@GabriellaH99 2/2 ^JD loves the one-handed fold-flat rear seat. All agree the car's super fun to drive. #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 22m</div> <div>@Ford #EVtalk true! it's one of my favorite places to be! also love the active noise cancellation</div> <div> Hide conversation Reply Delete Favorite More</div> <div>12:12 PM - 24 Sep 13 · Details</div> <div>Tweet text</div> <div>Reply to @Ford </div> <div>Image will appear as a link</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 19m</div> <div>@Ford #EVtalk suggestion; 2nd lifetime average where we could select "CAR ON, PARKED" mode-I often spend a LOT of time sitting w A/C on</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Melissa Au ‏@momsreview4you 23m</div> <div>@Ford Sounds like you've heard lots of opinions both likes/dislikes today. How do you hope to address these issues for Ford users? #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Ford Motor Company ‏@Ford 24m</div> <div>.@GabriellaH99 2/2 ^JD loves the one-handed fold-flat rear seat. All agree the car's super fun to drive. #EVtalk</div> <div>Collapse Reply Retweet Favorite More</div> <div>1</div> <div>RETWEET CrittendenAuto»Bill</div> <div>12:10 PM - 24 Sep 13 · Details</div> <div>Tweet text</div> <div>Reply to @Ford @GabriellaH99 </div> <div>Image will appear as a link</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 22m</div> <div>@Ford #EVtalk true! it's one of my favorite places to be! also love the active noise cancellation</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 25m</div> <div>#EVtalk @Ford speed limit indicator size of small postage stamp, needs to be WAY BIGGER, like half te screen, it's too hard to read at speed</div> <div> View conversation</div> <div> Ford Motor Company ‏@Ford 25m</div> <div>.@GabriellaH99 1/2 we just polled the room. ^PP and ^MH love the brake coach feature. ^PP's even gotten 100% score! #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Henrik Erslev ‏@Henrikerslev 26m</div> <div>#EVtalk what happened to the Ford People, Other then running an occasional commercial where were their answers?</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Melissa Au ‏@momsreview4you 26m</div> <div>Man, I need self-parallel park! lol RT #EVtalk I love many, speed limit indicator? owait, gotta be self-parallel park! @GabriellaH99 @Ford</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> talthompson ‏@talthompson 26m</div> <div>#EVtalk @Ford Ford CMax is by far the best affordable hybrid technology on the planet, shame it's being held back by Microsoft SYNC problems</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gabriella Harrison ‏@GabriellaH99 30m</div> <div>@ford Hey C-Max Team!! What's your favorite feature on the C-Max? #evtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 28m</div> <div>@GabriellaH99 @Ford #EVtalk hard to say, I love many, speed limit indicator? owait, gotta be self-parallel park!</div> <div> Hide conversation Reply Delete Favorite More</div> <div>12:05 PM - 24 Sep 13 · Details</div> <div>Tweet text</div> <div>Reply to @GabriellaH99 @Ford </div> <div>Image will appear as a link</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 25m</div> <div>#EVtalk @Ford speed limit indicator size of small postage stamp, needs to be WAY BIGGER, like half te screen, it's too hard to read at speed</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> talthompson ‏@talthompson 35m</div> <div>#EVtalk @Ford Any plans on allowing us to bypass SYNC voice, and go directly to Siri on our iPhones by using the steering wheel switch?</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 33m</div> <div>@talthompson @Ford #EVtalk 2nded but for android</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 31m</div> <div>#EVtalk @talthompson @Ford would love to incorporate a tablet into the car controls</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 29m</div> <div>#EVtalk @talthompson @Ford in general, the more buttons, LEDs, switches, knobs, etc, the better I like it. see 1967(?) tbird dash</div> <div> Hide conversation Reply Delete Favorite More</div> <div>12:04 PM - 24 Sep 13 · Details</div> <div>Tweet text</div> <div>Reply to @talthompson @Ford </div> <div>Image will appear as a link</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 26m</div> <div>#EVtalk @Ford please make bluetooth stream STAY connected (like it did originally), that DELAY when switching back=embarassing!</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gabriella Harrison ‏@GabriellaH99 30m</div> <div>@ford Hey C-Max Team!! What's your favorite feature on the C-Max? #evtalk</div> <div>Collapse Reply Retweet Favorite More</div> <div>12:04 PM - 24 Sep 13 · Details</div> <div>Tweet text</div> <div>Reply to @GabriellaH99 @Ford </div> <div>Image will appear as a link</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 28m</div> <div>@GabriellaH99 @Ford #EVtalk hard to say, I love many, speed limit indicator? owait, gotta be self-parallel park!</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> talthompson ‏@talthompson 35m</div> <div>#EVtalk @Ford Any plans on allowing us to bypass SYNC voice, and go directly to Siri on our iPhones by using the steering wheel switch?</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 33m</div> <div>@talthompson @Ford #EVtalk 2nded but for android</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 31m</div> <div>#EVtalk @talthompson @Ford would love to incorporate a tablet into the car controls</div> <div> Hide conversation Reply Delete Favorite More</div> <div>12:02 PM - 24 Sep 13 · Details</div> <div>Tweet text</div> <div>Reply to @talthompson @Ford </div> <div>Image will appear as a link</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 29m</div> <div>#EVtalk @talthompson @Ford in general, the more buttons, LEDs, switches, knobs, etc, the better I like it. see 1967(?) tbird dash</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Patricia Kellogg ‏@PatriciaKellogg 32m</div> <div>@talthompson @Ford That would be nice for my android too #EVtalk #myfordtouch because my SYNC can't hear commands correctly. BIG problem!!</div> <div> View conversation</div> <div> TerriAnn van Gosliga ‏@cookiesANDclogs 33m</div> <div>That's a TON less then small crossovers I've priced. RT @Ford C-MAX Hybrid is the lowest in the market at $25,995. #ConnectFord #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> talthompson ‏@talthompson 35m</div> <div>#EVtalk @Ford Any plans on allowing us to bypass SYNC voice, and go directly to Siri on our iPhones by using the steering wheel switch?</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 33m</div> <div>@talthompson @Ford #EVtalk 2nded but for android</div> <div> Hide conversation Reply Delete Favorite More</div> <div>12:01 PM - 24 Sep 13 · Details</div> <div>Tweet text</div> <div>Reply to @talthompson @Ford </div> <div>Image will appear as a link</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 31m</div> <div>#EVtalk @talthompson @Ford would love to incorporate a tablet into the car controls</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> ❤Shelby Barone❤ ‏@GlitterfulFelt 33m</div> <div>What about recycled products? Will more be going into the cars? @Ford #EVTalk #ConnectFord</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 34m</div> <div>#EVtalk @Ford lincoln town car hybrid? pretty please? ;-) no I'm not joking. woulda bought lincoln hybrid if more trunk space & better ride</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> tellis ‏@ellistimothy46 34m</div> <div>My C-MAX got the software upgrade for better MPG. Seems to be worse now. Can they reboot at dealer? #EVtalk #ConnectFord</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> talthompson ‏@talthompson 35m</div> <div>#EVtalk @Ford Any plans on allowing us to bypass SYNC voice, and go directly to Siri on our iPhones by using the steering wheel switch?</div> <div>Collapse Reply Retweet Favorite More</div> <div>11:59 AM - 24 Sep 13 · Details</div> <div>Tweet text</div> <div>Reply to @talthompson @Ford </div> <div>Image will appear as a link</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 33m</div> <div>@talthompson @Ford #EVtalk 2nded but for android</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Ford Motor Company ‏@Ford 36m</div> <div>.@GlitterfulFelt C-MAX Hybrid is the lowest priced hybrid utility in the market at $25,995. ^PP #EVTalk #ConnectFord</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> TerriAnn van Gosliga ‏@cookiesANDclogs 36m</div> <div>RT @Ford @rfruth no it only keeps the battery happy when you're driving ^MH #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Patricia Kellogg ‏@PatriciaKellogg 36m</div> <div>@Maclin_Ford currently #myfordtouch #SYNC system is in Lemon Law and I encourage all with that problem to file the same #EVtalk</div> <div> View conversation</div> <div> Henrik Erslev ‏@Henrikerslev 37m</div> <div>@cookiesANDclogs @Ford @GlitterfulFelt What are they for this year 2013 #EVtalk</div> <div> View conversation</div> <div> TerriAnn van Gosliga ‏@cookiesANDclogs 37m</div> <div>@PatriciaKellogg @Ford 522 miles is claimed and, yes, that's a super long drive! #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Henrik Erslev ‏@Henrikerslev 38m</div> <div>@IronFistJason @Ford Amazing rebate, now wouldn't it be nice to let the costumer know that #EVtalk</div> <div> View conversation</div> <div> Melissa Au ‏@momsreview4you 38m</div> <div>Great question! RT @ford @Glitterfulfelt Are you getting closer to making hybrids more comparable in price to a gas-fueled vehicle? #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> TerriAnn van Gosliga ‏@cookiesANDclogs 38m</div> <div>@Ford @GlitterfulFelt What are the refunds being spoken about on the Energi? #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Ford Motor Company ‏@Ford 39m</div> <div>.@GlitterfulFelt With newest generation EVs, we've reduced development costs by 25% and continue to work on this everyday. ^PP #EVTalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> TerriAnn van Gosliga ‏@cookiesANDclogs 44m</div> <div>@Ford Your media page claims that one tank can last from LA to the Grand Canyon. I'd love to take you up on that challenge one day! #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Patricia Kellogg ‏@PatriciaKellogg 41m</div> <div>@cookiesANDclogs @Ford Thats one long drive! They are claiming 620 Miles on a tank? Its a 10 hour drive! #EVtalk</div> <div> Hide conversation Reply Retweet Favorite More</div> <div>11:53 AM - 24 Sep 13 from Chardon, OH · Details</div> <div>Tweet text</div> <div>Reply to @PatriciaKellogg @cookiesANDclogs @Ford </div> <div>Image will appear as a link</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 38m</div> <div>@PatriciaKellogg @cookiesANDclogs @Ford Grandmas 1996 lincoln towncar can go L.A. to san fran on 1tank 25-30mpg hwy! AWESOME! bring it back?</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Jason ‏@IronFistJason 41m</div> <div>With the amazing rebates the Energi have going right now we are getting a lot of sales on them. Great job @Ford #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> bikerchickbarb ‏@bikerchickbarb 41m</div> <div>@Ford @MazenHammoud Will any 2014 CMax body enhancements be made available for the 2013 CMaxs? Do they impact FE? #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> TerriAnn van Gosliga ‏@cookiesANDclogs 41m</div> <div>@shanamama9197 @Ford Ha! Please not! #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Ford Motor Company ‏@Ford 41m</div> <div>.@Glitterfulfelt Are you getting closer to making hybrids more comparable in price to a gas-fueled vehicle? #EVTalk #ConnectFord</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Cindy Schultz ‏@MomMaven 41m</div> <div>I wish I had a C-Max to drive to #typeacon this weekend-would save me lots on fuel costs #evtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> tellis ‏@ellistimothy46 42m</div> <div>@Ford #EVtalk My C-MAX got the software upgrade for better MPG. Seems to be worse now. Can they reboot at dealer?</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> TerriAnn van Gosliga ‏@cookiesANDclogs 44m</div> <div>@Ford Your media page claims that one tank can last from LA to the Grand Canyon. I'd love to take you up on that challenge one day! #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Cindy Schultz ‏@MomMaven 51m</div> <div>#evtalk My dad loves his Fusion Hybrid I'm interested in the C-Max</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Ford Motor Company ‏@Ford 45m</div> <div>.@MomMaven the C-MAX will be a great addition to the family; customers love the fuel economy, roominess & it's fun to drive. ^PP #EVtalk</div> <div> Hide conversation Reply Retweet Favorite More</div> <div>1</div> <div>RETWEET CrittendenAuto»Bill</div> <div>11:49 AM - 24 Sep 13 · Details</div> <div>Tweet text</div> <div>Reply to @Ford @MomMaven </div> <div>Image will appear as a link</div> <div> Cindy Schultz ‏@MomMaven 44m</div> <div>@Ford yeah, I just need to find a job so I can buy the C-Max :-)</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Henrik Erslev ‏@Henrikerslev 46m</div> <div>#EVtalk I know that there are three functions. Battery, engine or both but the both function doesn't seam to do anything but burns up the</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> TerriAnn van Gosliga ‏@cookiesANDclogs 47m</div> <div>RT @henrikerslev: @Ford @cookiesANDclogs I get 26 on pure #EV am I burning it up? #EVTalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Ford Motor Company ‏@Ford 47m</div> <div>.@shanamama9197 After rejecting the potato battery <img class="bbc_emoticon" src="http://fordcmaxhybridforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png" title=";)" /> we chose lithium ion. It packs more power in less space. ^PP #EVTalk #ConnectFord</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Gadgetsage ‏@Treadmill90210 47m</div> <div>@Ford #EVTalk when can we use the SYNC calendar?</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Ford Motor Company ‏@Ford 1h</div> <div>.@SedonaRaye1 C-MAX Energi plug-in hybrid lets u drive like an EV & for long trips can go 620 miles on 1 tank of gas & 1 charge. ^PP #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> judy511 ‏@judy511 1h</div> <div>@Ford @SedonaRaye1 drove the c-max hybrid NYC 2 Boston. Great car <a href="http://www.shebuyscars.com/5560-2013-ford-c-max-hybrid-creating-eco-happy-campers/">http://www.shebuyscars.com/5560-2013-ford-c-max-hybrid-creating-eco-happy-campers/</a> … #EVtalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Dixieland Mom ‏@SedonaRaye1 1h</div> <div>@judy511 @Ford I am going to HAVE to drive this car!</div> <div>Collapse</div> <div>11:29 AM - 24 Sep 13 · Details</div> <div> judy511 ‏@judy511 49m</div> <div>@SedonaRaye1 @Ford for sure! #EVtalk</div> <div> Hide conversation Reply Retweet Favorite More</div> <div>11:44 AM - 24 Sep 13 · Details</div> <div>Tweet text</div> <div>Reply to @judy511 @SedonaRaye1 @Ford </div> <div>Image will appear as a link</div> <div> rfruth ‏@rfruth 49m</div> <div>@Ford Does the high voltage cooling fan(s) continue to run if need be after the C-Max hybrid is shut off ? #EVtalk</div> <div>Followed by Ford Motor Company</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Ford Motor Company ‏@Ford 50m</div> <div>.@shanamama9197 what is the battery technology that @Ford uses for its electric vehicles? #ConnectFord #EVTalk</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Melissa Au ‏@momsreview4you 51m</div> <div>For my readers- Have you had a chance to check out the 2014 @Ford Focus Electric Car? Its a beauty! <a href="http://www.ford.com/cars/focus/trim/electric/">http://www.ford.com/cars/focus/trim/electric/</a> … #EVTalk</div> <div>Collapse Reply Retweet Favorite More</div> <div>11:43 AM - 24 Sep 13 · Details</div> <div>Tweet text</div> <div>Reply to @momsreview4you @Ford </div> <div>Image will appear as a link</div> <div> Cindy Schultz ‏@MomMaven 51m</div> <div>#evtalk My dad loves his Fusion Hybrid I'm interested in the C-Max</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> Johnny Lai ‏@VolvoCop 55m</div> <div>@Ford #EVTalk in a commute of say 30 miles on the Energi, with 50% highway, should I switch EV off on highway and turn it back on in city?</div> <div>Retweeted by Ford Motor Company</div> <div>Expand</div> <div> tippytoes ‏@tippytoes 59m</div> <div>That is awesome! Thanks! 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Oh, and I had to turn the backup guidelines back on, thought it was a malfunction at first, then remembered that all my preferences were wiped by the update.

Also briefly experienced tempo speeding up / slowing down, but mostly just stream cutting in / out.

just had 3.5.1 update done, and only tested liftgate kick one time (dinner waiting) but it worked flawlessly, where before it was a 50/50 thing, even pressing the button on the dash or the liftgate button itself, half the time it would just unlock, but then required another press/kick to lift. Touchscreen is a lot faster too, which is nice, it was excruciatingly slow before... bluetooth streaming still seems to disconnect each time you switch to another audio source, which means a delay in switching back, (displays; "connecting to bluetooth audio" and the little spinning dandelion which means it's doing something) which is annoying, as it used to just stay connected, you could check am/fm radio, sirius, etc., and just switch back if nothing good was on and be listening to your phone media instantly. Is there a place / forum / email we can make suggestions to Ford? I was hoping this update would fix the streaming bluetooth stuttering/cutting in and out/skipping/tempo speeding up/slowing down but it didn't, though the instructions left by the tech explained what the problem was, "odd" characters such as emoticons (;-),:-p,!@#$%^&*();':"<>?,./ etc.) in the contact phone book (these things mean stuff to computers, and for some reason, the SYNC computer is reading the contact phonebook as if it were code, which screws up the bluetooth timing/causes too heavy a load on the cpu. My thousands of contacts might have had something to do with it as well...). I deleted my whole phonebook from the car, had thousands of customers in it, and it NEVER displayed who was calling correctly anyways. That fixed the bluetooth stuttering/cutting in and out/skipping/tempo speeding up/slowing down immediately. Kind of disappointing that my $700 phone has 4 cpus, and my 35K car only has one.... Maybe the 2014 C-max will have TWO!

just had 3.5.1 update done, and only tested liftgate kick one time (dinner waiting) but it worked flawlessly, where before it was a 50/50 thing, even pressing the button on the dash or the liftgate button itself, half the time it would just unlock, but then required another press/kick to lift. Touchscreen is a lot faster too, which is nice, it was excruciatingly slow before...

I'd also describe the bluetooth as skipping, it would cut out for a half-second and then come back, with all different media players on the phone, tunein radio, beyondpod, etc. Hope this helps!

Streaming Bluetooth stuttering SOLVED- just got my c-max back from the 3.5.1 update, and my Streaming Bluetooth stuttering problem was still there. The problem was; some emoticon or odd characters in my phone book, or too many contacts. I just deleted my entire phone book as it was thousands of contacts, and NEVER displayed who was calling anyways... Found this out by looking at the papers the Sync guy left in my car with instructions on re-pairing my phone. I will post pics of the details later after dinner. Apparently these "odd characters" or excessive contacts can cause this, slow navigation recalculation, displayed time jumps, audio popping, etc.

That is absolutely brilliant. There will be crackers in my car from now on.

a) it makes me sad that this is true. b) I've used the tactic of parking juuuuuuuuust bad enough (in boonies) that it doesn't look like I was TRYING to take 2 spaces, but with one corner of the car far enough into the next space so they kind of have to straddle two themselves to park next to you... gives them permission to park that way, if the whole row filled up, everyone wins, everyone has plenty of clearance to not get dinged, I hate those a-holes who drive crappy old cars and secretly like to ding your car- because you represent someone/something to them?

Using premium will not result in high mpg since your c-max is tuned for regular. If premium is the only gas available without ethanol, it should be possible to tune the car to work with premium, but you'd have to talk your dealer into doing that.

I dunno, watching the instant mpg while going up a long hill to tujunga, there's not a big difference between mpg at 65mph and 75mph, and if you're spending about the same amount of gas and doing it for less time, and getting there faster, seems like faster is better.

I kinda remember reading that somewhere too, but I've tested it with the A/C on, and you can definitely feel cool air coming out.

From the article you linked to; "If you're wondering why the word "gear" still appears in the explanation of a CVT, remember that, broadly speaking, a gear refers to a ratio of engine shaft speed to driveshaft speed. Although CVTs change this ratio without using a set of planetary gears, they are still described as having low and high "gears" for the sake of convention." Unless you have a better suggestion of something that would more accurately describe changing the gearing ratio that uses two words or less? So again I ask, does anyone know if the gearing ratio changes in respect to how hard you brake so as to provide more rpms to charge the battery faster?

Yeah, there is a vent in there, that console is designed so that you can put a cup in there and keep it cooler via that vent that blows cool air. I didn't use it as much as I did the trash bag hider, (and noticed the bag moving slightly in the airflow when A/C was on, then verified it with a mirror) so it became that for me, but yeah it'll hold a big ole 44 ounce cup in there no prob.

Oh, oops, how'd I manage to confuse you two? I guess when you quoted him. No harm done I hope. Anyways; PJUREK99, you should not have to SLAM your door to get it to close all the way- depending on your definition of slam- I've noticed it doesn't take much force for it to SOUND like a slam, and have to restrain myself from complaining when the wife closes her door because of that- but your doors may be misaligned enough to prevent easy latching, check with your dealer if you think that may be the case... or there may be a missing plastic shim that is necessary to push the latching mechanism far enough for it to "catch". This was the case with a toyota celica I had, I kept wrapping the metal bar with electrical tape to substitute for the plastic shim that I didn't even know should be there. When I found out, it was a Doh! moment. I have noticed my rear doors require a bit more force than the fronts to securely latch, nowhere near a slam, just a tad more.

Curious what you liked about the Panoramic Moonroof? You know it doesn't open, right?

Well, the 5 cents you're saving by buying gas with 10% alcohol in it is not worth it because it's impacting your mpg by about 10%. If you would have gotten 60mpg, that's 6mpg(!) 50mpg=5mpg lost, 40mpg=4mpg lost so 36mpg, which I can understand why you're underwhelmed with that. If only gasahol is what is available in your area, I'm sympathetic, but just understand that that alcohol is lowering your max mpg by the same percentage as it is mixed into the gas. And that might be 9%, or 10% or even 11%. If you can, try a tank without gasahol, you should get 10% better mpg just from that. And like you, initially I had some wrong assumptions about the most efficient "hybrid driving style" which don't apply to the C-max that I had to discover. Namely, better mpg at 60-65mph=40-50mpg (yes really) than 55-60mph=30-35mpg. I also read an interview of a Ford engineer saying you need to drive a little faster than you would think to better charge the battery. Not stomping the gas, but the C-max is designed for American driving styles, i.e., FASTER, not so grandmotherly like a prius. Also, the quick liftoff the gas pedal to return to EV once you reach the speed limit is a biggie. Also, looking at how little you got on any given trip is kind of a glass half empty attitude- I like to focus on how all-around fantastic the C-max is; performance, ride quality, quietness, etc. I once got 70mpg REAL in traffic, so much stop and go EV/recapturing all the energy spent, and that's what I like to focus on, that that is how efficient the C-max can be. If you focus on how little mpgs you get when flooring it, or fail to take into account that time spent doing paperwork with the A/C on can lower lifetime mpg by 2,3,4,even 5mpg, of course you're going to be unhappy. I just think that's an unrealistic way to look at it. As for Ford using the EPA numbers, that may have been the least bad of several bad options- if all the other car companies are using the EPAs numbers, where does that leave Ford in marketing their car? And as someone who travels different routes all the time, I sometimes get 50-60mpg trips, and some much less. So I don't think the 47 is inaccurate, but there are a LOT of factors that are going to affect whether you get 47 or more or less or whatever.

Hmm, it's sounding like charging the lithium battery is something of a thorny problem, I had considered this myself- but not as in depth as those commenting above... What about adding additional batteries? Heard a rumor about a guy who bought some batteries at Walmart in Georgia and installed them himself in his C-max hybrid and was getting 100mpg... sounds pretty urban-legendy, but I could see it having a beneficial effect with a lot less hassle...

How do you do that?

Confirmed it does turn off after a few minutes, I use a cellphone battery charger that plugs into the cig power inside the center console with an LED, saw it wink out after a while, I forget how long it took.

Here ya go, I had the black aftermarket one, and in Los Angeles summers, it helped noticeably, maybe in Florida it would help even more, I finally got tired of putting it on the window when I parked as it didn't result in the car being cool when you got back in, just coolER. Plus, it looks clunky on your space-age new C-max... https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&gs_rn=12&gs_ri=psy-ab&tok=wzbznDtP_JbAagIKav1a4Q&cp=12&gs_id=9d&xhr=t&q=solar+car+window+fan&es_nrs=true&pf=p&safe=off&sclient=psy-ab&oq=solar+car+wi&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.45960087,d.cGE&fp=59522ab026b941d4&ion=1&biw=1092&bih=533 Always thought about making it internal, hiding away the fan in the headliner or something and running tubing down to the bottom of the car to suck in cooler air from down there, never did tackle that project...

Very very interesting stuff, thanks. I tried to take a different approach than I thought the drivers with bad mpg were getting, and so pretty much drove it hard (not super-hard, but not gentle like I do now) to vary the compression and seat the piston rings properly. I'm just above 5000 now, and seeing some modest increases in mpg, so I guess it worked out ok- I think I got a good one anyways, I've been seeing good to excellent mpg even from the beginning, my sel had very few miles on it, like 50 from my dealer getting it from another one for me. Wondering if the break-in is even longer than they thought, given that it's a CVT/hybrid?