HannahWCU Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 I got my scangauge back from having its software updated to 4.10. I installed it into my CMax today (for the first time) and found an issue I am hoping someone might be able to help me with. When the CMax is running in EV mode the GPH (Gallons Per Hour) is reading 0.06. How do you "zero" this out? Also, I thought I saw somewhere where someone posted the xgauge codes for SOC (State of Charge) but I can't seem to find it. Any help on either of these issues would be GREATLY appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-MaxJaxon Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Also, I thought I saw somewhere where someone posted the xgauge codes for SOC (State of Charge) but I can't seem to find it. Any help on either of these issues would be GREATLY appreciated. http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showpost.php?p=369600&postcount=6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannahWCU Posted February 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Thanks! That is what I was looking for! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robodog61 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Did anyone get any more C Max codes? I got inside air temperature and HV battery volts, but that's it. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Lithium batteries have a very flat voltage curve. In other words, the voltage shows high when the battery is at 100%, and low when it's near empty, but between 90% and 10% there's almost no measurable change in voltage. You get voltage sag from high current draw, but again, that doesn't correlate much with state of charge. So while it may be mildly interesting to know the voltage, it's probably not useful for measuring state of charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannahWCU Posted February 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Did anyone get any more C Max codes? I got inside air temperature and HV battery volts, but that's it. Thanks Whats the codes for Air Temp and HV Battery Volts? The SOC from the link above seems to work ok, BUt I have seem the SOC as low as 5 on the scangauge with a what seems about 15%=20% left on the CMAX gauge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hybridbear Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Did anyone ever get more XGauge codes for the C-Max? I bet the C-Max codes are the same as the FFH. In this thread at the FFH Forum I've shared my SGII observations so far. Since the C-Max and FFH have the same powertrain this data may interest you too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshtex2 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Hi folks. It is good to find some Scangaugers. Mine limits out at 0.06 GPH. I'm guessing that the reason GPH never shows a 0.00, zero, is because when the gasoline engine is not running, the design has a little fuel recycle through the fuel line to keep fresh fuel immediately available when needed. I find these SCANGAUGE numbers are more quickly responsive than the C-Max graphics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannahWCU Posted October 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 I had a problem when running my scangauge. The VHR (Vehicle Health Report) would not run while the scangauge was plugged in. Anyone else have this problem? I also found that not all the FFH codes worked. At least for me they didn't. SOC worked (I have another thread on this http://fordcmaxhybridforum.com/topic/1927-interesting-information-on-the-high-voltage-battery/). Battery temp seemed to work. Inside air temperature seemed off to me. Anyone have the same problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viajero Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 I also found that not all the FFH codes worked. At least for me they didn't. SOC worked (I have another thread on this http://fordcmaxhybridforum.com/topic/1927-interesting-information-on-the-high-voltage-battery/). Battery temp seemed to work. Inside air temperature seemed off to me. Anyone have the same problems? Most of the Scangauge codes didn't work for me. The three that did were State of Charge, Battery Temperature, and Inside Temperature. My best guess as to the inside temperature is that it's a sensor somewhere in the back near the battery fans. If you're using A/C to cool the cabin the temperature in the back will lag the temperature in the driver's seat for quite some time. That's how mine behaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hybridbear Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 I had a problem when running my scangauge. The VHR (Vehicle Health Report) would not run while the scangauge was plugged in. Anyone else have this problem? I also found that not all the FFH codes worked. At least for me they didn't. SOC worked (I have another thread on this http://fordcmaxhybridforum.com/topic/1927-interesting-information-on-the-high-voltage-battery/). Battery temp seemed to work. Inside air temperature seemed off to me. Anyone have the same problems?It has been discovered that any device plugged into the OBD port will prevent you from running a VHR. Most of the Scangauge codes didn't work for me. The three that did were State of Charge, Battery Temperature, and Inside Temperature. My best guess as to the inside temperature is that it's a sensor somewhere in the back near the battery fans. If you're using A/C to cool the cabin the temperature in the back will lag the temperature in the driver's seat for quite some time. That's how mine behaves.The XGauge I use most is the one that shows the amps of current flowing in or out of the battery. I find this very useful while driving to help me maximize fuel economy as discussed in the thread on the FFH Forum I linked above. HVB temp also works. SOC returns strange numbers for me but I found a discrepancy in the set of XGauge numbers I was provided by Linear Logic and what someone else posted on the C-Max Energi Forum in the MTH (math) section of the code. I'm guessing my data has an incorrect math calculation. FSI & FSD (Fan Speed Indicated/Demanded) also work to show when the HVB fans are running. HBV also works to show the voltage of the HVB pack. This is neat to watch how the voltage decreases when discharging and increases when charging. Typically pack voltage is around 280 when driving in EV Mode and about 285-290 when charging through regen braking or when the ICE is on. I have not yet entered the code for the ambient air temperature. I don't think I have seen that coding either. Can someone please post it here or show me where it is available? I probably am just missing it hiding in plain sight, sorry...and thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtb9153 Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Where do you buy this scangauge? Curious where everyone is getting them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtb9153 Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 So this plugs into the computer connector where ever it is located? I answered my previous question by google searching Duh! go figure, thanks anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannahWCU Posted October 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Yes the Scangauge plugs into the OBD2 port. There are two in the CMax. The one I was using is below the steering wheel just behind the lower panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannahWCU Posted October 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 It has been discovered that any device plugged into the OBD port will prevent you from running a VHR. The XGauge I use most is the one that shows the amps of current flowing in or out of the battery. I find this very useful while driving to help me maximize fuel economy as discussed in the thread on the FFH Forum I linked above. HVB temp also works. SOC returns strange numbers for me but I found a discrepancy in the set of XGauge numbers I was provided by Linear Logic and what someone else posted on the C-Max Energi Forum in the MTH (math) section of the code. I'm guessing my data has an incorrect math calculation. FSI & FSD (Fan Speed Indicated/Demanded) also work to show when the HVB fans are running. HBV also works to show the voltage of the HVB pack. This is neat to watch how the voltage decreases when discharging and increases when charging. Typically pack voltage is around 280 when driving in EV Mode and about 285-290 when charging through regen braking or when the ICE is on. I have not yet entered the code for the ambient air temperature. I don't think I have seen that coding either. Can someone please post it here or show me where it is available? I probably am just missing it hiding in plain sight, sorry...and thanks! I don't remember exactly where i found these, but they are for the FFH. I have not tried them all: Hv Battery State-of-Charge: units %TXD: 07E4224801RXF: 046245480601RXD: 3010Mth : 000100050000NAM: SOC [35%-70%] Hv Battery Voltage: units VoltsTXD: 07E422480DRXF: 04624548060DRXD: 3010Mth : 000100010000NAM: HVB Hv Battery Temp: units degrees FTXD: 07E4224800RXF: 046285480600RXD:3008Mth : 00120001FDBCNAM: BaT Maximum Discharge Power Limit: units kWTXD: 07E4224815RXF: 046245480615RXD: 3008Mth : 001900010000NAM: MxD Maximum Charge Power Limit: units kWTXD: 07E4224816RXF: 046245480616RXD: 3008Mth : 001900010000NAM: MxC Average Battery Module Voltage: units VoltsTXD: 07E4224841RXF: 046245480641RXD:3010Mth : 0001000A0000NAM: AvM Inside Car Temp: units degrees FTXD: 07E422DD04RXF: 046285DD0604RXD: 3008Mth : 00120001FE70NAM: InT Hv Battery State-of-Charge: units %TXD: 07E4224801RXF: 046205480601RXD: 3008Mth : 000850064FFB0NAM: SoC [0%-100%] Battery Age: units monthsTXD: 07E4224810RXF: 046285480610RXD: 3010Mth : 000100140000NAM: age Transmission Temp: units degrees FTXD: 07E1221E1CRXF: 0462851E061CRXD: 3010Mth : 000900080140NAM: TFT Hv Current: units ampsTXD: 07E122480BRXF: 04628548060BRXD: 3010Mth : 000100050000NAM: AMP Motor Electronics Coolant Temp: units degrees FTXD: 07E1224832RXF: 046285480632RXD: 3008Mth : 001200010140NAM: MeT Engine run time: units minutesTXD: 07E122F41FRXF: 046245F4061FRXD: 3010Mth : 001900100000NAM: TmE Generator Inverter Temp: units degrees FTXD: 07E122481ERXF: 04628548061ERXD: 3010Mth : 00120001140NAM: GnT Motor Inverter Temp: units degrees FTXD: 07E1224824RXF: 046285480624RXD: 3010Mth : 001200010140NAM: MoT Generator Speed: units RPMTXD: 07E1224821RXF: 046205480621RXD: 3010Mth: 000100010000NAM: GnR Motor Speed: units RPMTXD: 07E1221E2CRXF: 0462051E062CRXD: 3010Mth: 000100010000NAM: MtR hybridbear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recumpence Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Lithium batteries have a very flat voltage curve. In other words, the voltage shows high when the battery is at 100%, and low when it's near empty, but between 90% and 10% there's almost no measurable change in voltage. You get voltage sag from high current draw, but again, that doesn't correlate much with state of charge. So while it may be mildly interesting to know the voltage, it's probably not useful for measuring state of charge.Not true. I work with lithium batteries all day long in my ebike drive system business. They actually follow a very linear voltage drop from 100% to 20% (they should never go below 20%). I can say that is true for lithium polymer batteries. It is Nicad batteries that have a very flat discharge curve. They are strong right untill they are at around 10% SOC. Then they fall off tremendously. Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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