SnowStorm Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 In Virginia ( :wub2: ) new drivers must learn how to save gas. Code 22.1-205 says: "The program shall include instruction concerning .... (vi) fuel-efficient driving practices,"Sorry guys, but this forum may become obsolete. :cry:Any other states out there that care about saving gas? Or does the Old Dominion remain; One State To Lead Them All. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wab Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 "fuel-efficient driving practices" hhmmm let's see fuel efficent drivers but you'll be penalized for a fuel a efficient car... strange state :drop: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Twin Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 For my efforts of going green. I now get to pay a Tax for my Sins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
METROMAN Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 For my efforts of going green. I now get to pay a Tax for my SinsI can feel your pain brother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Harbinger Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Virginia's political climate is not particularly favorable to environmentally friendly causes, and are probably proposing this as an "anti-green" measure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchman Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 (edited) So they are requiring us to learn how to drive more efficiently, and then raise taxes ONLY on hybrids/EVs? After teaching everyone to drive more efficiently, they will have to raise taxes (again) on everyone for buying less gas. Edited June 9, 2013 by Hatchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Harbinger Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 After teaching everyone to drive more efficiently, they will have to raise taxes (again) on everyone for buying less gas. The cost to build and maintain roads doesn't decrease just because people use less gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchman Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 (edited) The cost to build and maintain roads doesn't decrease just because people use less gas. OK, so why does a 47 mpg hybrid have to pay the tax, but a 41+ mpg VW TDI does not? This VW TDI here in VA gets 58 mpg, and doesn't have any extra TDI/Diesel tax. http://thinkblue.vw.com/5882-mpg-guinness-world-record-set-by-jetta-tdi/ I'll just go do some burnouts in my Mustang, make sure I get the road wear I'm paying for. :rockon: Just kidding. Edited June 9, 2013 by Hatchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Harbinger Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 OK, so why does a 47 mpg hybrid have to pay the tax, but a 41+ mpg VW TDI does not? This VW TDI here in VA gets 58 mpg, and doesn't have any extra TDI/Diesel tax. Well, diesel fuel is assessed about 5 cents per gallon more in federal fuel taxes... I think the main reason is that there just aren't that many diesel passenger cars sold in the US. It's a niche market, and as long as that's true, it won't affect the ability of states to maintain roads enough that they would need to be treated any differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchman Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 (edited) Well, diesel fuel is assessed about 5 cents per gallon more in federal fuel taxes... I think the main reason is that there just aren't that many diesel passenger cars sold in the US. It's a niche market, and as long as that's true, it won't affect the ability of states to maintain roads enough that they would need to be treated any differently. OK, so TDIs aren't taxed because they are not enough of them. Why are hybrid SUV's taxed and not a gasoline car that gets better gas mileage? There are dozens of cars that get better gas mileage than a Lexus RX 450h, but the hybrid has to pay the extra tax and buy more gas, thus paying more tax. I guess those hybrid SUVs really chew up the road, so they have to pay their "fair share". Edited June 9, 2013 by Hatchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Harbinger Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 OK, so TDIs aren't taxed because they are not enough of them. Why are hybrid SUV's taxed and not a gasoline car that gets better gas mileage? There are dozens of cars that get better gas mileage than a Lexus RX 450h, but the hybrid has to pay the extra tax and buy more gas, thus paying more tax. I guess those hybrid SUVs really chew up the road, so they have to pay their "fair share". In every regulation there's a tradeoff between complexity and rationality. A perfect law would charge each person exactly based on how much they contribute to the maintenance and expansion of the highway system. But to do so would be impossibly difficult to measure. And while it's true that particular hybrid doesn't get Prius-like milage, it does very much decrease fuel used compared to vehicles of the same weight/power class - which gets back to the point of "these vehicles are not contributing their fair share towards maintaining public infrastructure". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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