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Sounds like you got a great deal to me! :) Paul

You could have made it, did you just chicken out? LOL Did you ever compare your GPS to your odometer? Mine is off by 1.019% with new tires. You where probable short by 6-8mi. Oh well, there is always next time. :) Paul

I will have to try that for sure, but I have gotten on the Fwy in EV and gotten over 50mph with ICE cold. Will do more testing. :) Paul

To me it sounds like a bad ground to the 12v Battery not allowing the car to charge it. But putting the battery charger on the terminals would work. Quiet often is see voltages below 12v at front power point before starting the car. IMO :) Paul

Unfortunately this is old info which at the time a lot of us felt it was bias. They tried to drive a CMAX like a Prius and you don't get as good MPG's that way. I don't think the graph is accurate from my experience. It seems like the graphs should be getting closer together, because of less aero drag. Also I just got 70.9mpg averaging 40mph over at least 150mi. so take 2mpg off Smart Gauge # giving 69mpg, then try to put it on their graph and it doesn't work . I don't know how they figured out how to temperature compensate for a CMAX. On one Smart Gauge Pic the temp was 37*F, that would hurt CMAX by -7MPG's. It doesn't look like they even figured out how to come up with accurate numbers for the CMAX, It would have taken a lot of time and would not be easy to do. IMO :) Paul

Keep up the good MPG's, this can be fun! :) Paul

Air Temperature will also effect air density being a pilot it is very important consideration. :) Paul

I travel through Texas's 80 mph speed quiet often and can get 42-45mpg drafting semi's. Winds are a problem out there though and can make a BIG difference in MPG's. Just recently I drove from EL Paso to Abilene on I-10 to I-20 and the first about 200mi. with tale wind and drafting 80mph semi's, I was getting almost 50mpg :happy feet: , but then it all went down the tube. The Winds changed to strong cross winds and rain and I ended up with around 42MPG on that tank. :sad: Paul Paul

I bought my CMAX for the great gas mileage, not global warming which is now called climate change. We are fooling ourselves if we think we are making a significant difference in green house gases when a Hybrid starts out using a lot of extra energy to make the Hybrid System. And then there is the extra cost so it is going to take quiet a few thousands of miles to get to break even point. Having said that you aren't going to be able to take my CMAX from my death grip on it. Just saying. LOL I like my 64+mpg and over 900 miles tanks, Thank You Very Much FORD. :) :yahoo: Paul

OK, so I did it on my 5K trip to San Diego and back. I did it between Flagstaff,AZ and Amarillo,TX with two stops in Gallup,NM and Albuquerque,NM and made the 500mi. around San Juan,NM. I have New Michelin's on the car and Odometer is off by 1.019% according to Garmin GPS. Actual numbers are for mileage(512mi), speed(66MPH) and 47.1mpg for the whole tank and looks like 47.3mpg for 500mi. Here is how I did it, I used a banking system where I would save MPH and MPG. So if MPH got low I would trade MPG for MPH. I used Garmin to track MPH average and Smart Gauge to track MPG average. I took I-40 all the way to Memphis,TN. The elevation drop from Flagstaff to San Juan is about 3,000Ft, but there are three over 7K ft. summits between the two city's. Starting about 2PM in the afternoon from Flag with the plan that I should be able to bank both MPG's and MPH's going down to Winslow(50mi. and 2K ft drop), but things went BAD quickly with two different problems. Rain and Semi's, as it turns out it rained at least 1/3rd of my trip and had to deal with alot of Semi's, easily half of the traffic on I-40. Rain hurts both MPG's and MPH's and you can't draft Semi's in the rain if you want to see where you are going. On the other hand being forced to follow Semi's while they are passing each other helps MPG's but kills MPH's. So By the time I got to Winslow things where looking BAD, instead of having alot of extra MPG's and MPH's banked, I was already short with 45mpg, 67mph, I almost gave up not seeing how I could make up the deficit. Then things started to improve, the rain stopped and I was able to start passing Semi's and get some drafting help while I was waiting to get around them. Then about 40mi. later the winds changed from cross wind to tail wind so then the numbers were getting better. I stopped in Gallup, NM with about 67.5mph and 47.5mpg, but with stopping and getting going again I lost 1 mph on the Garmin, worse on Smart Gauge. OUCH! Then I hit rain again and winds stopped, still I was ahead of the game when I got to Albuquerque. Lost .5mph for that stop and hit rain again, but not to bad. Eventually I just kept MPH average at 66 and aloud MPG's to slowly climb knowing Smart Gauge would be optimistic by a couple of MPG's. Most of the time I was going 69-70mph when I wasn't stuck behind Semi's or in construction zones. You may have noticed my top speed on the Garmin was 81.3mph! This exercise shows that 500mi. is a long way to go without having weather and traffic problems. When conditions are favorable, my CMAX will get 47mpg at 70mph. :) Paul Also I used P%G when I could, no ECO Cruise.

With a Jumper Battery this becomes just annoyance, show your wife how to use it, it will only take a couple of minutes. Then you don't have to worry about it. FORD will fix it eventually and in the mean time you are covered. IMHO :) Paul

They have them on Ebay Motors much cheaper than FORD, just an option. :) Paul

It would appear that very few percentage wise of CMAX's have the battery problem. :) Paul

Prius does stop faster. LOL :) Paul

I had my tires replaced by my FORD dealer and they said it was unnecessary to change the sensors. I don't know if you can take them off one set of wheels and put them on a new set. :) Paul

I like the the thought, but it wouldn't work unless you have a strong breeze going through your garage. LOL That is where most of the dead batteries happen. :) Paul

The slalom numbers say it all, I have driven my Daughters Prius on a long trip even with the extra weight the CMAX handles more like a sports car than the Prius. :) Paul

They should have replaced the 12v battery after the second time, it kills the battery to run it dead. IMO :) Paul

IMHO I don't think FORD was out of line borrowing Fusion Hybrids MPG numbers having driven both cars from my experience. I think FFH gets maybe 1mpg on HWY better and CMAX 1 MPG better in the City, they were very close. :) Paul

Well I tried to break my longest tank record and did by one mile on Garmin, but short by two miles on Smart Gauge, OUCH! Have new tires so Odometer is off by 1.019%. It would have been a total waste except I found the sweat spot for best gas mileage. When I was driving through MS on SR-80 and Natchez Trace Parkway, about 150mi. I got 70.9mpg on 50mph speed limit with P & G up to 55mph and down to 40-35mph with very little traffic. As I have thought from the past going through towns and having to stop at lights and stop signs hurts your MPG's by at least 5mpg. I currently have 73.6K mi. with almost all of that with Grill Covers on and only take bottom one off if I know I'm going to have long uphill grade. I only took my lower cover off three times on my 5K trip to San Diego and back. My LifeTime MPG is up to 46.7 and Fuelly 45.8mpg. :happy feet: Paul

Just an update on my CMAX lemon built in sept. 2012 with 73.6K miles, I LOVE it as much as Lemon Meringue Pie, YUM! :love_shower: Paul

OK, so I did it on my 5K trip to San Diego and back. I did it between Flagstaff,AZ and Amarillo,TX with two stops in Gallup,NM and Albuquerque,NM and made the 500mi. around San Juan,NM. I have New Michelin's on the car and Odometer is off by 1.019% according to Garmin GPS. Actual numbers are for mileage(512mi), speed(66MPH) and 47.1mpg for the whole tank and looks like 47.3mpg for 500mi. Here is how I did it, I used a banking system where I would save MPH and MPG. So if MPH got low I would trade MPG for MPH. I used Garmin to track MPH average and Smart Gauge to track MPG average. I took I-40 all the way to Memphis,TN. The elevation drop from Flagstaff to San Juan is about 3,000Ft, but there are three over 7K ft. summits between the two city's. Starting about 2PM in the afternoon from Flag with the plan that I should be able to bank both MPG's and MPH's going down to Winslow(50mi. and 2K ft drop), but things went BAD quickly with two different problems. Rain and Semi's, as it turns out it rained at least 1/3rd of my trip and had to deal with alot of Semi's, easily half of the traffic on I-40. Rain hurts both MPG's and MPH's and you can't draft Semi's in the rain if you want to see where you are going. On the other hand being forced to follow Semi's while they are passing each other helps MPG's but kills MPH's. So By the time I got to Winslow things where looking BAD, instead of having alot of extra MPG's and MPH's banked, I was already short with 45mpg, 67mph, I almost gave up not seeing how I could make up the deficit. Then things started to improve, the rain stopped and I was able to start passing Semi's and get some drafting help while I was waiting to get around them. Then about 40mi. later the winds changed from cross wind to tail wind so then the numbers were getting better. I stopped in Gallup, NM with about 67.5mph and 47.5mpg, but with stopping and getting going again I lost 1 mph on the Garmin, worse on Smart Gauge. OUCH! Then I hit rain again and winds stopped, still I was ahead of the game when I got to Albuquerque. Lost .5mph for that stop and hit rain again, but not to bad. Eventually I just kept MPH average at 66 and aloud MPG's to slowly climb knowing Smart Gauge would be optimistic by a couple of MPG's. Most of the time I was going 69-70mph when I wasn't stuck behind Semi's or in construction zones. You may have noticed my top speed on the Garmin was 81.3mph! This exercise shows that 500mi. is a long way to go without having weather and traffic problems. When conditions are favorable, my CMAX will get 47mpg at 70mph. :) Paul

I had a 2003 Diesel Jetta Wagon and sometimes it wouldn't run when it got real cold. Most VW Diesels don't get 50mpg on the Hwy which is better than 42mpg EPA. The Worst MPG's I have gotten on a tank with temps below zero is 36mpg with grill covers and my jetta diesel would not have been running. IMO :) Paul