ptjones

Yesterday I started out with a full charge and ended up with 49.4 miles all electric EV when I got home. I went about 2 miles on 0 range with a good part down hill, was surprised that the ICE didn't start. I parked in front of the garage to get my bike out and wash it off. Then I drove it into the garage and the ICE started, if I had driven strait into the garage it would have started. The range started out at 54 miles so 49.4 mi. is pretty close to 54 mi.

Sorry to see that and glad you are OK. I miss MADMAX, It was the best car/ FORD I have ever owned with 273k mi., we figured we have had around 30 Fords. I'm getting use to FEHP and like the extra room and the plugin. I had two deer run into MADMAX and they didn't total it. Let us know what you do. Paul

I have done very little EV driving on the FWY, I have gone about 1500 miles in Hybrid Mode where I have gone to 85 mph. My Life Time stats/ trip 2 are 80.7 mpg combined, total miles 2539 and total electric miles 1632. My Hybrid Mode is 45.7 mpg on Fuelly and under dry road conditions I'm getting 49.7 mpg. I'm thinking maybe the range computer is learning to be more accurate, this morning with a full charge I had a range of 50 mi., another low , I only lost 10 miles in range going 7 miles to work. I usually loose more like 15 miles. Paul

Ran my HVB empty today for 48.5 mi. range, interesting that the car went over a mile on empty before the ICE came on. So it looks like I'm averaging 48 miles on a full charge for a 1k miles now. I believe that anyone who drove a CMAX/Fusion Hybrid should get 44 mi. /charge non HWY driving with 44 psi in they're tires. Just checked SOC after a hour of charging, it has 7 miles. When I started charging it would take 11.4 hours to fully charge the HVB. dividing 11.4 into 48.5 =4.25 mile/hour so the HVB can be charged quicker at the beginning of charge and slow down at the end. I don't have enough HWY driving in HVB Mode only to come up with a range yet. This morning when I left for work the charger was still charging the HVB, but the ScanGaugeII had 93% SOC and the range was 52 mi. It is usually 56 to 59 mi. and SOC is 91%, strange. When I got to work the range had dropped to 42 mi. after the 7 mi. drive. That was better than normal. Paul

I got 99K mi. on first trans and FORD replaced for free, got 173k mi. on second trans still working when I traded it in.? Paul

I charged up last night and this morning the range was 59 mi. a new record ?. Drove the 7 miles to work and range was 44 miles and when I turned on the car again it had dropped to 39 miles. ? The climb to work is bad for the range. LOL When I go home range only drops 4 miles for the 7 miles trip. Something to look for when you drive your FEHP when you get it. Paul

On page 209 in the OM it says: "Why does my vehicle have hum or fan noise when charging?" "A hum or a fan noise could be present when charging the high voltage battery. This is normal operation as your vehicle is keeping the battery cool while charging." This is a good thing to help the HVB last longer. I usually wait a hour or two before charging when at home. Paul

Good info there, From what I have seen max charge is 90-91% SOC. Ran the HVB to empty last night and had to use the ICE for 1 mile of ICE use. I used a charging station for 44 min. for free for about 7.5 mile increase in range for a total of 57.5 mi. EV Paul

I got the impression that high temps caused from charging the HVB and believe owners were using Level 2 chargers which heat up the HVB more. Here's what I'm doing. 1. Let HVB cool off for a couple of hours before start charging. Most of my charging has been at night when it's cooler. 2. I believe the HVB is being cooled when charging. 3. I didn't use EV on my long trip and in EV later it only uses 2% of the HVB. 4. Once I put the Grill Cover on I will use EV to control temps if I need too on long trips. Paul

A New high for range with a full charge, 57 miles and after going to work 7 miles it has dropped to 38 mi. Currently have 2202 miles on the odometer. Still getting 47 to 49 miles per charge. I should clarify that by saying I'm not running it empty, usually 5 to 15 miles left and charge at night at home. I went out to lunch and now up to 17.6 mi. with 29 mi. range left which works out to 46.6 miles total range and this number will go up when going home. Paul

Some more things I've noticed are the WT runs most of the time below 202*F (195-198*F) once in awhile I saw it get up to 207*F in EV Later Mode. It could be cooler in Normal Mode, maybe try it on next trip to see WT numbers. Generally the display for range is over optimistic after charging, this morning I started out with a range of 53 mi. and ended with 37 mi. after going 9.9 mi. which still gets me 47 mi. range for this charge. I have a couple of 49 mi., but most are 47 mi. Paul

Filled up and the Displayed Trip had 52.5 mpg and Fuelly actual mileage 49.8 mpg, off by 2.7 mpg. I got the total range for ICE miles to 560 miles, divided by 11.2 g =50 mpg. So adding 47 mi. EV range = 607 miles total. Display shows 576 mi. after fill up. Paul

I drove to Cleveland and back in EV later Mode for the first time and posted fill ups on Fuelly.com I took a picture of my current tank when I got back. My previous three tanks I averaged 45.4 mpg in the rain. The tanks were off anywhere from 1.5 to 7 mpg. I think I will fill up the tank and see how it is off. Every time you start the car you have to reset to EV Later. Paul

Does include maybe 20% coasting, but very little drafting, not that many opportunities for drafting on slower, two lane roads. Paul

I think the reason for the big change is the computer is assuming that the kWh has changed to more kWh per mile. I set AC temp to 76*F and I'm sure the kWh/mi. goes down as temp equalizes in the car. When I stop using the AC the range increases showing the change in efficiency. Paul

I think I'm averaging 4.8 kWh, it goes down pretty fast going uphill and up slowly going down hill. Range is pretty much 47 miles. The right display is similar to the Hybrid's. I'm surprised how good the plugin acceleration is in EV mode. Paul

That's the difference between range before and after trip miles at the bottom of display and actual trip miles off of trip 1 display. Paul

I didn't notice the power usage. I have been getting consistently 47 miles/charge, I have gone to zero only once, here is todays start with full charge. Paul

AC takes a 25% hit on range on 10 mile trip and with 93*F OT. Paul

Another thing about coasting it allows your HVB to cool down some when you don't use it. Was noticeable with my 2013 CMAX Hybrid. So far I have 331.9 total miles, 312.2 electric mi. and 341.2 MPG. When I got the car it had 395 mi to E gas and currently has 387 mi. to E. It seems to be averaging 47+ mi. per charge range so 10 miles over EPA estimate range. Interesting that after a short 7 mi. trip the electric range goes up 1 mile when you use the car later. The highest HVB temp I have seen so far is 89*F with outside temps high 80's to low 90's*F. As far as handling goes the FEHP has more body lean in the roundabouts than the CMAX Hybrid, probably from the additional weight in the back. CMAX Energi had less lean, but similar issues. From an efficiency standpoint it seems to me on a + 60 miles trip it would be better to use the ICE block heater to warm up the ICE and then stay in Hybrid/ ICE Mode to start the trip to keep WT up to improve ICE efficiency. Just HVB at the end of trip when the WT doesn't matter when you don't use the ICE. Paul

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I checked this morning and the All Electric mode didn't change. Last night when I plugged it in the display showed 100% charge range at 50 mi., but this morning it showed 45 mi. and when it got to work it had 38 mi., 7 mi. to work. My garage doesn't cool down very well and the HVB temp was 84.5*F and when I got to work it was 86*F. Specs say that the HVB has 14.4 kw capacity , the SGII says at 0 there is 24% left and fully charged 91% which means EV is only using 9.5 kw (91%-24%=67%x14.4 kw), the numbers don't seem to be coming out right. Last night when I got home the Display showed 4.5 mi./kw and range of 50 miles which = 11.1 kw capacity. This morning at 100% charge the range dropped down to 45 mi. and divide that by 11.1 kw=4.05 mi./kw. On the Electric Efficiency display it says "Average 4.5 mi/kWh or Estimated range on next full charge is 50.2 mi". Decided to go ahead and install Gas Pods and raise tire pressure to 44 psi., they were 32psi according to my digital pressure gauge. Paul

Actually it has an annoying sound is suppose alert people you are driving a EV. It takes about eleven hours if totally empty which works for me, I plug it in when I get home from work about 7 PM and is ready by 7 AM. It looks like I could go two days without charging if I can get 45 mi on a charge. It looks like the car sets itself every time you restart the car. Will check again tomorrow morning. Paul

I have to pay more attention to the HVB temp in the future. When the HVB is fully charged the SGII shows 90% SOC and fully discharged HVB SGII shows 24% SOC. I'm not worried about fully charging the HVB which I do at night with Level 1 charger that came with the car. At this point I don't see I need a Level 2 charger. Can't you run your Energi in Hybrid mode and not use the HVB?

This morning with 100% charge it showed a range of 46 miles and it went up to 47 miles when going some down hill and ended up with 39 mi. range to go when I got to work. When I turned car back on it dropped to 35 miles range. I went to lunch and back, 8 miles + the 7 miles to work = 15 mi. and add that to the 32 mi. range left it looks like I can get 47 mi. on this charge. This is with speeds of 35 to 55 mph. I think EPA range per charge is 37 mi. so that works out to 10 miles farther without any Mods or Hypermiling. I'm using coasting in Neutral going downhill though, I can't help myself. If I used the same plan tomorrow I would end the day with 42 miles and 5 mi. left on the range. Maybe by the end of next week I will have my Mods ready. One of the easy things to do is raise tire pressure from 34 to Max pressure of 44 psi. I have my Gas Pods from CMAX they're magnetic, easy to install. I'm thinking I will be able to improve range by atleast 3 miles, maybe 5 mi. Paul