redEV Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) I did some checking into the availability of X-pricing on both the C-Max Hybrid and Energi and while I thought the Energi would not be included (as the FFE wasn't) it shows up now -- of course the $1,000 incentive isn't offered (yet) on the Energi but is on the Hybrid so a Hybrid SE base would net out at $23,103 (MSRP of $25,200, X-Plan at $24,103 and the $1,000 cash rebate); the C-Max Hybrid SEL base would net out at $25,935 (MSRP $28,200, X-Plan at $26,935 and the $1,000 cash rebate) and a base Energi would net out at $27,667 (MSRP of $32,950, X-Plan at $31,417 and Fed Tax Credit of $3,750) this doesn't include taxes, license fees, etc. but in states with high doc fees (over $100) it looks like Ford rebates the difference back to the dealer so would save a few bucks there as well. So this puts the difference at only $1,732 !! between the Hybrid SEL and the similarly equipped Energi !! Of course you need to check what equipment would be different between the Hybrid SEL and the Energi (most have said that the equipment level is quite similar, that's part of the reason why the Energi starts at where it is) but such a small difference makes me lean more towards getting an Energi for zero gas short commutes during the week. Here is a link to those companies that partner with Ford (I retired from one years ago and looks like retirees are eligible as well): http://bigval.addr.c...cial/x_plan.htm Edited November 2, 2012 by redEV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelld Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 I did some checking into the availability of X-pricing on both the C-Max Hybrid and Energi and while I thought the Energi would not be included (as the FFE wasn't) it shows up now -- of course the $1,000 incentive isn't offered (yet) on the Energi but is on the Hybrid so a Hybrid SE base would net out at $23,103 (MSRP of $25,200, X-Plan at $24,103 and the $1,000 cash rebate); the C-Max Hybrid SEL base would net out at $25,935 (MSRP $28,200, X-Plan at $26,935 and the $1,000 cash rebate) and a base Energi would net out at $27,667 (MSRP of $32,950, X-Plan at $31,417 and Fed Tax Credit of $3,750) this doesn't include taxes, license fees, etc. but in states with high doc fees (over $100) it looks like Ford rebates the difference back to the dealer so would save a few bucks there as well. So this puts the difference at only $732 !! between the Hybrid SEL and the similarly equipped Energi !! Of course you need to check what equipment would be different between the Hybrid SEL and the Energi (most have said that the equipment level is quite similar, that's part of the reason why the Energi starts at where it is) but such a small difference makes me lean more towards getting an Energi for zero gas short commutes during the week. Here is a link to those companies that partner with Ford (I retired from one years ago and looks like retirees are eligible as well): http://bigval.addr.c...cial/x_plan.htm I purchased my C-Max with X-Plan and got the $1000.00 incentive in addition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-MaxJaxon Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 I purchased my C-Max with X-Plan and got the $1000.00 incentive in addition. Same here. I wasn't interested in the Energi because of the cost and extra effort for the tax credit, the couple hundred extra pounds, lower gas mileage when using the gas engine, reduced cargo area, and an unknown wait time to order one. I was quite surprised and happy that it stays in EV mode for quite a bit of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Max Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 I purchased my C-Max with X-Plan and got the $1000.00 incentive in addition.I bought mine with A-Plan and got the $1000 incentive also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redEV Posted November 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Yes agree as you all bought the hybrid models; Energi is not currently eligible for the extra $1K cash off -- there was a quip on one of the forums that the only C-Max' being sold in Chicago would be to Ford employees (we have a Ford plant that assembles the Taurus, Lincoln MKS and Explorer) but looks like with all the Ford partners X-pricing that they needed to add them as well --- hey, a discount, is a discount!! Also just received word that my local dealer has a C-Max Energi now in stock so will be able to see for myself soon -- agree on the weight., cargo area, etc. but could actually drive much more in full EV mode which may offset these things but we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelld Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Yes agree as you all bought the hybrid models; Energi is not currently eligible for the extra $1K cash off -- there was a quip on one of the forums that the only C-Max' being sold in Chicago would be to Ford employees (we have a Ford plant that assembles the Taurus, Lincoln MKS and Explorer) but looks like with all the Ford partners X-pricing that they needed to add them as well --- hey, a discount, is a discount!! Also just received word that my local dealer has a C-Max Energi now in stock so will be able to see for myself soon -- agree on the weight., cargo area, etc. but could actually drive much more in full EV mode which may offset these things but we'll see. Two things kept me away from the Energi; 1. How the air cooled batteries would withstand Texas summers2. The uncertaintity of getting the tax credit. One big plus I see for the Energi aside from the larger battery is the ability to stay in EV mode up to 85 mph. So highway driving should see better FE. Not certain how much the additional weight will offset the added EV capabilities and it will be interesting to see what the early adopters report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redEV Posted November 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) An IL dealer posted these photos ... huge difference between the Energi and Hybrid out back https://www.facebook...=3&l=7ad7a9e727 Edited November 5, 2012 by redEV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScooterS Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 I looked hard at the Energi. Howevder, I don't yet have a charging station at work and the cargo room was just too small for me. C-Max Hybrid is now on order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNCGeek Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 I thought you could plug in the energi into any outlet, it just takes longer to charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redEV Posted November 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 I thought you could plug in the energi into any outlet, it just takes longer to charge. Correct -- Ford lists the charging time as 7 hours on 120V; only 2.5 hours for 240V for the Energi -- of course zero for the hybrid, just regen braking will do it for you! http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2013_CMAX_Specs.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salprint Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 I bought with xplan partner....got 2500 off sticker on the C-Max and almost 3000 off on Fusion SE hybrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLdr1 Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 We just purchased our C-Max SEL last Saturday, November 10th, using X-Plan Partner and recieved the $1,000 Incentive. The MSRP was $33,080, X-Plan pricing was $31,425, a $1655 savings, plus the $1K incentive added up to a $2,655 discount. The other nice thing about X-Plan is it caps "Dealer Fees" at $100. Some of the dealers in this area charge up to $600 for "Dealer Fees", mine usually charges $299, so that was another $199 saved with X-Plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redEV Posted November 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 We just purchased our C-Max SEL last Saturday, November 10th, using X-Plan Partner and recieved the $1,000 Incentive. The MSRP was $33,080, X-Plan pricing was $31,425, a $1655 savings, plus the $1K incentive added up to a $2,655 discount. The other nice thing about X-Plan is it caps "Dealer Fees" at $100. Some of the dealers in this area charge up to $600 for "Dealer Fees", mine usually charges $299, so that was another $199 saved with X-Plan. +1 on the savings for dealer doc fees; apparently some states don't regulate these (ours adjust yearly for inflation), Ford will pay back the dealer for any difference from the $100 the buyer pays so most dealers are OK with it but, I've heard that some don't participate in X-pricing so it's always good to check before assuming that they do. I like seeing the actual pricing printed out so no negotiating (other than of course the trade-in). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtberman Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 I didn't think I qualified for X-Plan, but recently found out that you can get X-Plan if you own shares of Ford stock. You have to own at least 100 shares, and you have to have owned them for at least six months. I filled out a form and faxed it, along with my last six month's account statements, but I got an X-Plan approval via email two days later. I can find the form and post it here if anyone's interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonCmax Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 The fine print on the incentive says you have to "take delivery from dealer stock". The dealer wouldn't sell me a C-Max off the lot with X-Plan pricing, but were happy to order one for me. Does anyone know if I can get the incentive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Max Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 (edited) Anyone can get X-plan if you know a Ford employee. They can give it to anyone. You can order or buy from dealer stock. Edited December 10, 2012 by Michigan Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fits2at Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 Does anyone know if the $1K rebate is still active? We were told about a $750 rebate which was given to us but nothing was said about $1K rebate. We purchased on D-plan pricing as my husband is an employee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Max Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 Does anyone know if the $1K rebate is still active? We were told about a $750 rebate which was given to us but nothing was said about $1K rebate. We purchased on D-plan pricing as my husband is an employee.Looks like the rebate is now $750. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelld Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 Does anyone know if the $1K rebate is still active? We were told about a $750 rebate which was given to us but nothing was said about $1K rebate. We purchased on D-plan pricing as my husband is an employee. Depends upon your zip code, my area still shows 1,000 incentive for the C-Max but nothing for the Energi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob999 Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 I didn't think I qualified for X-Plan, but recently found out that you can get X-Plan if you own shares of Ford stock. You have to own at least 100 shares, and you have to have owned them for at least six months. I filled out a form and faxed it, along with my last six month's account statements, but I got an X-Plan approval via email two days later. I can find the form and post it here if anyone's interested.Please post the form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdefny Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 I got $750 on my Energi, but the additional $1,000 was only for the C-Max. By the way, the trunk in the Energi is a bit disappointing, but is bigger than my '02 Prius trunk and there is more than enough cargo space for my needs. Driving to and from work without burning any gas more than makes up for it most days. It always got to me that my Prius was gas only for short trips while the engine warms up. With the Energi, my commute or a trip to town and back are gas free, as is the warmup if I choose remote start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtberman Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Regarding the rebate on an order, I was told that the buyer gets the rebate as long as the dealer orders the car during the period and keys the rebate into their Ford dealer account at that time. This apparently "locks in" your qualification for the incentive, in case it expires or is cancelled while the order is in process. They said it was really important to do this properly, and proceeded to do it while I watched. They also said that if there's a better incentive at the time of delivery, you would get that instead. We agreed that Ford is almost certain to allow the C Max rebate to expire in January, so they felt it was critical to write the order up with the rebate listed and also to enter it into their system promptly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtberman Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Please post the form.Sorry for the delay, I had to find it. Here is the form to get the X Plan if you own Ford stock: XPlan PIN Application for Shareholders.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhak Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Regarding the rebate on an order, I was told that the buyer gets the rebate as long as the dealer orders the car during the period and keys the rebate into their Ford dealer account at that time. This apparently "locks in" your qualification for the incentive, in case it expires or is cancelled while the order is in process. They said it was really important to do this properly, and proceeded to do it while I watched. They also said that if there's a better incentive at the time of delivery, you would get that instead. I have a C-MAX SEL that was slated to be built today, 12/11. It has a tentative delivery date of 1/7/2013, which is probably reasonable. It has rail transport to Kent, Washington, and then ship transport to Anchorage, AK. For a little more assurance I asked my salesperson about the rebate due to expire 1/3/2013 and got this back. You are price protected for the cost of the vehicle, and the Consumer Incentives that were in play at the time you placed your vehicle order. You and I agreed upon a specific price, and we intend to stand behind that number. If the Consumer Incentives increase by the time your C-Max arrives, it's more money for you. The initial quote had the standard disclaimers that rebates are not guaranteed and are subject to the incentives in effect at the time of delivery. It is nice to have some written assurance that they intend to honor the rebate at the time of order unless a new rebate offers more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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