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Any maintenance for C-MAX transmission?


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#1 OFFLINE   webcontrol

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 01:03 AM

I could not find anything regarding the transmission on C-MAX, does it need any maintenance at all?









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#2 OFFLINE   jdbob

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 01:32 AM

It's not expected to use any fluid unless there is a leak somewhere. In order to check you have to remove the pan underneath the engine compartment to get to the fill hole:

 

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Best left to the dealer. The scheduled maintenance says to replace the fluid after 150000 miles.


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#3 OFFLINE   jdbob

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 01:37 AM

Here's a couple of pictures of the transmission for anyone that is interested.

 

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 01:44 AM

Because any metal part will have tiny bits after running for a while, I always like to drain and refill the transmission fluid with best fully synthetic fluid like Royal purple synth MAX ATF after 10-20k miles with my other cars.  Does Ford car has fluid drain plug?  Thanks!



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Posted 09 March 2014 - 03:17 PM

There is a drain plug at the bottom of the transmission. However, from the Royal Purple web site:

 

"Max ATF is NOT recommended for the following applications: Allison TES-389, DEXRON® VI, Ford Type F and MERCON® SP & LV, Honda DW-1,....."

 

The C-Max uses MERCON type LV. And also from their website:

 

"Max ATF is not recommended for use in any CVT or DCT applications."

 

Sounds like a good way to ruin your car.


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 10:19 PM

Good to chat with you to know that, Amazon web site had wrong information saying that Royal Purple MAX ATF is good for Mercon LV.

Do you have any full synthetic transmission fluid to recommend for C-MAX?  What do you think Red Line Oil D6 ATF?

 

Also, if you could show a picture where is the drain plug, that would help.  Even using exactly MERCON type LV, I think it is better to replace the transmission fluid once for a while.


Edited by webcontrol, 11 March 2014 - 12:24 AM.


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Posted 11 March 2014 - 12:39 AM

After some reading, I think I will stick with MERCON LV fluid.  Do you know how many quarts C-MAX taking?  I also appreciate if someone can post a picture showing where is the drain.



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Posted 11 March 2014 - 03:52 AM

If you are going to be doing things like that you really need access to the workshop manual. You can buy a subscription at https://www.motorcra...pageid=cat_main or you can purchase a CD-ROM at http://www.helminc.c...2913&itemtype=N

 

Keep in mind that these ECVT units don't have all the sliding parts that conventional transmissions have, and therefore have less wear. 



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Posted 11 March 2014 - 07:41 AM

If you are going to be doing things like that you really need access to the workshop manual. You can buy a subscription at https://www.motorcra...pageid=cat_main or you can purchase a CD-ROM at http://www.helminc.c...2913&itemtype=N

 

Keep in mind that these ECVT units don't have all the sliding parts that conventional transmissions have, and therefore have less wear. 

 

 

It’s pretty hard to get the old fluid out of some transmissions (F250 6.0) no drain, you have to let the transmission pump the old out and the new in.

 

Some even with a drain (Mini Cooper S) it’s even harder to get the new in, no fill tube.



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Posted 11 March 2014 - 08:37 AM

The last transmission fluid I changed that only had a check level hole like the CMax I used a long piece of tubing and held it in the hole while a second person used a small funnel to empty the bottles down the tubing.  Added fluid until it ran out the hole.  The car must be level so I parked it pointed down the slope of my driveway before putting it on ramps.



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Posted 11 March 2014 - 12:00 PM

The C-max has a fill plug, drain plug and check plug.  The fill hole is accessed from the top after removing air intake stuff and cowl panel. After draining, add 5.4 liters, run engine for one minute, wait 5 minutes and drain excess oil from check plug shown in post 2 above.  I would not use the check level hole to add 5.4 liters as the manual show using a syringe to top off when checking.  It would likely be a tedious process like fotomoto describes.  Also, to get an accurate fill level, fluid temperature should be between 20*C - 40*C (remember the dipstick fluid method had a hot and cold fill line).

 

Also, I see no reason to change fluid at 10-20k miles.   But it's not my $$$.


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Posted 12 March 2014 - 06:36 PM

Anyone can post pictures for the drain hole and fill hole?

Although it sounds wasting money, from my past experience with other brand cars, that money is well worth, not because the fluid gone bad, rather there are micro metal particles in the fluid after running 10-20k miles.



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 06:41 PM

should the service publication be subscribed? Some how I can not paste anything to this forum.



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 07:28 PM

should the service publication be subscribed? Some how I can not paste anything to this forum.

 

 

This is the only forum I belong to that I have problems with.

 

Can’t Paste

Can’t Quote

Can’t use anything on the top tool bar (text color, can't change font size, smiley etc)

 

But I have found a few work arounds.

I copy and paste into a word document then copy and paste from there to the forum.

Use MultiQuote then delete the post I don’t want to quote.

A partial work around for the top tool bar.

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 05:19 AM

 

This is the only forum I belong to that I have problems with.

 

Can’t Paste

Can’t Quote

Can’t use anything on the top tool bar (text color, can't change font size, smiley etc)

 

But I have found a few work arounds.

I copy and paste into a word document then copy and paste from there to the forum.

Use MultiQuote then delete the post I don’t want to quote.

A partial work around for the top tool bar.

????

 

 

When you can't do something that everyone else can do, why do you assume it's a "forum" problem, rather than a "you" problem?m



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Posted 17 March 2014 - 10:51 AM

I can't quote either.


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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:36 PM

I can not paste, can not quote.  Please don't blame me for not able to paste or quote, I did nothing special on Windows 7 with IE browser.


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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:52 PM

Just checked and I can't paste either.  The toolbar kinda works. :confused: 


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Posted 18 March 2014 - 02:38 PM

When you can't do something that everyone else can do, why do you assume...

Why do you assume everyone else can?

 

My issue is weak passords, "weak" as in they don't last the session. I open a few threads and I'm no longer logged in to any of them. Previously open threads no longer allow me to reply. My base page (New Content) requires an active password to open, yet after opening a few new threads, I'm no longer logged in on any thread, includinge New Content!

 

It's an inability to recognize actions taken by logged-in members. Failure to forward credentials from one web page to another on the same site. How is that a local issue?



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Posted 19 March 2014 - 02:16 PM

FWIW, I've had no issues whatsoever.








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