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Ordered a sterling gray SEL with 302A package on 1/8/13. Got window sticker on 3/9/13. Built on 3/16/13 (Saturday). Unloaded from truck 3/27/13. Delivered on Friday, 3/29/13. :yahoo:
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It might have something to do with the problem of hybrid vehicles not accepting software updates. (which might be why they haven't rolled out the new MFT software yet.) Hopefully they will resolve this soon. I found this special service message on the C-Max in OASIS: SSM 32078 - 2012-2013 Battery Electric And Hybrid Vehicles Only - Navigation SD Card Fault and Clock Will Not Hold Correct Time Some 2012-2013 Battery Electric and Hybrid Vehicles equipped with My Ford Touch may exhibit concerns with navigation SD card and the clock not holding correct time. BEV and Hybrid vehicles at this time will not accept the A4 navigation card or the latest MyTouch update. A release for Hybrid vehicles is forth coming. Monitor OASIS for updates.
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The ABS being activated is probably a symptom of low battery voltage rather than the cause of low battery voltage. There are several sensors that the ABS module monitors. If these sensors don't have the proper voltage, they can send erroneous signals to the ABS module causing the module to try to modulate brake pressure (putting further drain on the battery).
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high engine/transmission speed and one cylinder not working
ceemax71 replied to petrim's topic in General Discussion
This new TSB might be related: TSB-13-3-12: Some 2013 C-MAX Hybrid/Energi vehicles built on or before 2/13/2013, Fusion Hybrid and MKZ Hybrid vehicles built on or before 2/6/2013 may intermittently exhibit a flashing MIL under hard acceleration with DTCs P0301, P0302, P0303, P0304 or P0316 in the Powertrain Control Module (PCM). The engine may also exhibit a misfire or runs rough condition during the event. -
No. Only on OASIS right now. It is TSB 13-3-11. "GLOBAL POSITION SATELLITE MODULE - TRAFFIC DIRECTIONS AND NAVIGATION - UNABLE TO LOCATE VEHICLE - BUILT ON OR BEFORE 1/15/2013" Ford should have a link to the TSB in a few days. Google "Ford TSB 13-3-11".
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A TSB came out today for the GPS NAV that applies to vehicles built before 1/15/13.
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This is directly from the C-Max shop manual: Daytime Running Lamps (DRL) NOTE: The DRL is a programmable parameter for this vehicle. The DRL system utilizes the existing circuitry and components from the headlamp system and operates the low beam headlamps at a reduced intensity. There has been some dispute as to whether this parameter is actually configurable by the service department. I have seen on other forums that on 2013 Ford models the DRL programmable parameter is "read-only". http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=258795&page=10 Has anyone been successful in getting it enabled on the C-Max?
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They could put a crank on it like the first Ford Model T. :)
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And not very safe with the 300 volts DC on the cables.
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I believe Ford actually has a charger that can charge the high voltage traction battery. If they didn't how could they bring a hybrid back to life if the high voltage battery was discharged to the point that it couldn't start the gas engine?
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The fuse for SYNC is Fuse 67 in the passenger compartment fuse panel. The owner's manual shows fuse 67 only protecting the Energi cell phone passport. According to the workshop manual, fuse 67 protected components actually are the "Message center module, Navigation system module, Accessory Protocol Interface Module (APIM), and Telematic Control Unit Module (TCU)". The APIM is the SYNC computer. The TCU is the cell phone module (Energi only). If the SYNC screen is still functional, it might be easier to reset it through the SYNC menu. http://support.ford.com/sync-technology/perform-master-reset-sync-myford-touch
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I just learned a new one: SSM = Special Service Message This is an OASIS communication from Ford to dealers regarding a known issue or a clarification to functionality.
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I HAVE FOUND THE ILLUSIVE MPG SWEET SPOT!
ceemax71 replied to Generalbeluga's topic in Hybrid Driving Tips & Tricks
If all else fails, read the manual. ;) I got a 30 day subscription for the C-Max service publications (http://www.motorcraftservice.com/vdirs/SPubs/). I found this in the workshop manual regarding the shutters: Active Grille Shutter The grille shutter actuator positions the grille shutters based on commands from the PCM. The grille shutter moves 90 degrees from fully closed to fully open and, based on the position commanded by the PCM, is set in 1 of 16 positions (approximately 6 degrees between positions). During normal operation, the grille shutter may be partially to fully open when the engine is off depending on the ambient temperature. When the engine is started, a calibration of the grille shutter system occurs which typically takes 15-20 seconds. The grille shutter system performs the calibration sequence by detecting the end positions, open and closed. The calibration sequence can begin in either direction, open or closed, and continues until it is successful or a fault is sensed. A long pause may occur between the 2 portions (open/close) of the calibration sequence. Calibration of the grille shutter system cannot be manually requested, it only occurs as determined by the grille shutter actuator. If certain faults are present (shutter blocked or actuator error), a recalibration is initiated in an attempt to resolve the problem. If the problem is not resolved after a calibrated number of attempts (usually 3 or 4), a timer starts and sets a DTC when the timer reaches a predetermined limit. The PCM communicates the desired position (open or closed) of the grille shutter based on various PCM inputs (vehicle speed, coolant temperature, ambient temperature, A/C system pressure, etc.). -
Disconnect low-voltage battery? (Frozen MyFordTouch screen)
ceemax71 replied to csavage7's topic in General Discussion
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Here are acronyms from the Ford C-Max shop manual. Some have already been listed. ABS: Anti-Lock Brake System APP: Accelerator Pedal Position ARB: Air Resource Board ATDC: After Top Dead Center BARO: Barometric Pressure BECM: Battery Energy Control Module BPO: Battery Power Off BPP: Brake Pedal Position BTDC: Before Top Dead Center CAFE: Corporate Average Fuel Economy CAN: Controller Area Network CCM: Comprehensive Component Monitor CHT: Cylinder Head Temperature CKP: Crankshaft Position CL: Closed Loop CMP: Camshaft Position CO: Carbon Monoxide CO2: Carbon Dioxide COP: Coil On Plug CT: Closed Throttle CTO: Clean Tach Output DC: 1. Direct Current 2. Duty Cycle DFSO: Deceleration Fuel Shut-Off DLC: Data Link Connector DMM: Digital Multimeter DRI: Deposit Resistant Injector DTC: Diagnostic Trouble Code ECT: Engine Coolant Temperature EEC: Electronic Engine Control EEGR: Electric Exhaust Gas Recirculation EEPROM: Electrically Erasable Programmable Read-Only Memory EGR: Exhaust Gas Recirculation EPA: Environmental Protection Agency ETB: Electronic Throttle Body ETC: Electronic Throttle Control EVAP: Evaporative Emission FAOS: Fore-Aft Oxygen Sensor FC: Fan Control FEPS: Flash EEPROM Programming Signal FLI: Fuel Level Input FMEM: Failure Mode Effects Management FP: Fuel Pump FTP: Fuel Tank Pressure GCU: Generator Control Unit GPM: 1. Grams per Mile 2. Gallons per Minute GVW: Gross Vehicle Weight HC: Hydrocarbon HO2S: Heated Oxygen Sensor IAT: Intake Air Temperature IDS: Integrated Diagnostic System IPC: 1. Instrument Panel Cluster 2. Independent Plausibility Checker ISO: International Standards Organization KAM: Keep Alive Memory KOEO: Key On Engine Off KOER: Key On Engine Running Km/h: Kilometers per Hour kPa: Kilopascal KS: Knock Sensor LEV: Low Emissions Vehicle LOS: Limited Operating Strategy MAF: Mass Air Flow MAP: Manifold Absolute Pressure MECS: Motor Electronics Cooling System MFF: Misfire Freeze Frame MIL: Malfunction Indicator Lamp MRFS: Mechanical Returnless Fuel System N: Nitrogen NOX: Nitrogen Oxide NVRAM: Non-Volatile Random Access Memory OASIS: On-line Automotive Service Information System OBD: On Board Diagnostics OC: Oxidation Catalytic Converter OHC: Overhead Camshaft OSC: Output State Control OSR: On Board System Readiness PCM: Powertrain Control Module PCV: Positive Crankcase Ventilation PID: Parameter Identification PIP: Profile Ignition Pickup PPM: Parts Per Million PSCM: Power Steering Control Module PTS: Professional Technician Society PWM: Pulse Width Modulated PZEV: Partial Zero Emission Vehicle RAM: Random Access Memory RCM: Restraints Control Module ROM: Read-Only Memory RPM: Revolutions per Minute RWD: Rear-Wheel Drive SAE: Society of Automotive Engineers SOBDMC: Secondary On Board Diagnostic Module SULEV-II: Super Ultra Low Emission Vehicles-II TAC: Throttle Actuator Control TACM: Throttle Actuator Control Motor TB: Throttle Body TDC: Top Dead Center TP: Throttle Position TR: Transmission Range TRID: Transmission Identification TSB: Technical Service Bulletin ULEV: Ultra Low Emissions Vehicle VCM: Vehicle Communication Module VCT: Variable Camshaft Timing VECI: Vehicle Emission Control Information VID: Vehicle Identification VIN: Vehicle Identification Number VSC: Vehicle System Controller VSS: Vehicle Speed Sensor WOT: Wide Open Throttle
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I had the same question several weeks ago. ICE = Internal Combustion Engine See the acronym thread.
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Perfect weather to build a C-Max. Mine gets built this Friday. :)
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The top part or bottom part doesn't show up even if you print the window sticker from here?
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The build date should be at the top of the sticker with a number like 120130201. Ignore the first number. The next four are the year, then month, then day of month. So this code would be a build date 2/1/2013.
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I don't think the fuel pump runs all of the time. I had a Ford Ranger that had a relay to turn the fuel pump on and off to maintain pressure. I know this because the relay would intermittently fail to turn on the fuel pump and cause the engine to die.
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The delay seems to be due to the dealer allocation thing. After doing a google search, I found this regarding the dealer's allocation. Link "Ford determines on a monthly basis, based on existing inventory, sales rate and "Days Supply" how many of each vehicle line will be produced for the following production month. Once that number is determined, Dearborn determines the allocation for each Region which eventually gets down to determining the allocation for each Dealer. It's a simple "Turn & Earn" system where the more vehicles sold, the greater the allocation." The delay is not all bad, though. I missed having to drive it in the 2 feet of snow we had in the last 2 weeks. The average fuel efficiency should get off to a better start with warmer weather. And hopefully Ford will have solved some of the software issues with MFT. :)
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Finally got the window sticker today!! It is a sterling gray SEL with 302A package ordered on 1/8/2013. The sticker shows a build date of 3/15/2013. It should be here just in time for spring weather. :happy feet:
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Without all of the electrical load data, wiring diagrams, and detailed functionality of the C-Max electrical systems, I am only speculating on the dead 12 volt battery problem. But, following is my speculation: The BCM (body control module) is powered up at all times to be able to listen for radio signals from the key FOB (for door unlock, remote start), sense the presence of the key FOB, and probably for several other functions. The BCM will eventually run the 12 volt battery down below the minimum voltage to allow the systems to power up. This is true on most all vehicles made in the last several years. The time it takes to drain the battery varies depending on the capacity of the battery, age of the battery, and actual power load when the key is off and engine is not running. Some will go for months; some will go for weeks before the battery is dead. And obviously some vehicles will only go for days/hours before the battery is dead. Because the 12 volt battery is not used to power a starter motor, hybrid vehicles have a much lower capacity battery to reduce weight and space. The gas engine is actually started with the high-voltage motor-generator. With all of the accessories requiring high current (head-lights, heated mirrors, defrosters, heated seats, power lift gates, etc.), the 12-volt charging system could struggle to charge the 12 volt battery at the same time as powering all of the 12 volt loads. The result being that when the car is shut down, the 12 volt battery might not be fully charged. Driving patterns such as short trips with headlights on and heating devices would compound the problem. I would predict that during the summer there will be fewer issues with dead 12 volt batteries since power won’t be needed for the heated seats, defrosters, and heated mirrors. So the 12 volt battery will have a better chance of staying charged. I am sure Ford engineers are working hard to solve the problem and I would bet that some even monitor this forum to get valuable feedback from C-Max owners. It would be nice if someone at Ford would chime in and explain what is actually going on. But, I am sure that Ford corporate policy strictly forbids doing so because of the legal ramifications.
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Check with your dealer. The dealer I ordered from said that I would get the cash incentive in place at the time I ordered. And if the cash incentive in place at the time of delivery was better, I would receive the better cash incentive.