MacGyver Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Tthere's a recall affecting braking smoothness/cruise shutoff/downhill lurching- my max is smooth again after they fixed this issue, and they were unaware of this recall until I took it in for an unrelated issue. They didn't even know about the rcall until they looked for it. robertcwalker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus-A-CMax Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 What recall is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver Posted December 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 I don't even know the # or whatever, but it has definitely improved the smoothness of braking- just before they fixed mine, it would LURCH badly when braking on a downhill or when braking and turning off the cruise control, as if the brake pedal had to travel so far to activate the switch that cut off the cruise control that you would simultaneously be braking while the engine was still trying to pull the car forward, then a bit more pedal travel would cut cruise and thus engine power, resulting in a LURCH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Z Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 I find our cmax will lurch when going down hill and coming to a slow/stop when it switches from ICE power to electric. I wonder if this recall would be related to this and would be glad to know the number so I can look into it at dealer. It is quite noticeable as you brake to slow and it switches from ICE power to EV when going down hill. I will be keeping my eye on this thread to see if any more info come up or even if others have noticed this lurching. Cheers, Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edsel Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Is this the big clunk you feel when hitting the brake with the cruise on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tehuti Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 I get that lurch as well. If someone finds out the recall number please let us know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordService Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Hi everyone, If you're looking for more info on recalls, I suggest checking out this link on Owner.Ford.com. It'll let you know if there are any announced recalls affecting your vehicle. :) Ashley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelot Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Is there a place we can find TSB's? I had a clicking noise on my on my axles on my Ford fusion hybrid back in January and when I heard about the Tsb on the ffh forum It surprised the dealer who didn't know it existed. But the washers were back ordered 2 mos anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill-N Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Look in the Brakes sub-forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalbeluga Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) Go to the Ford ETIS recall information website at this link: http://www.etis.ford.com. Click on the "Vehicle" tab at the top of the page and input your vin number and it will let you know if your specific car has outstanding recalls. Edited December 24, 2013 by Generalbeluga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhackwyatt Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 Is this smoothness thing a recall or a TSB? If it's a TSB then the fix will only be applied if the owner reports the car is having that problem and so won't show up on etis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbov Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 I have a very consistent case of brakes grabbing just before I stop. I believe it's condensation-related as it only happens when the car is cold and it's either raining or misty. It seems as if the rotors are below ambient temperature, so they condense water vapor. When braking for a high regen score, you're not using the mechanical brakes. Eventually the car comes to a stop, and without motion, there is no regen, so how does the car remain stopped? Brakes. I think I'm sensing the moment when regen braking transitions to mechanical brakes at rest, as I can still get a 100% score, but it's darn hard to stop smoothly. Once the rotors warm up, the grabbing is gone. Anyone else seeing that? HAve fun,Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ldcarson Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 I have a very consistent case of brakes grabbing just before I stop. I believe it's condensation-related as it only happens when the car is cold and it's either raining or misty. It seems as if the rotors are below ambient temperature, so they condense water vapor. When braking for a high regen score, you're not using the mechanical brakes. Eventually the car comes to a stop, and without motion, there is no regen, so how does the car remain stopped? Brakes. I think I'm sensing the moment when regen braking transitions to mechanical brakes at rest, as I can still get a 100% score, but it's darn hard to stop smoothly. Once the rotors warm up, the grabbing is gone. Anyone else seeing that? HAve fun,FrankYep, I am seeing that on my energi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaDadMiami Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 My ride is pretty smooth. I don't feel a sudden grab just before stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wab Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Posted Today, 08:47 PMMy ride is pretty smooth. I don't feel a sudden grab just before stop. Like Scuba I have a very smooth stop, but I rarely use my brake pads.When I use the pads I have a brake score in the 80's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus-A-CMax Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 I don't even know the # or whatever, but it has definitely improved the smoothness of braking- just before they fixed mine, it would LURCH badly when braking on a downhill or when braking and turning off the cruise control, as if the brake pedal had to travel so far to activate the switch that cut off the cruise control that you would simultaneously be braking while the engine was still trying to pull the car forward, then a bit more pedal travel would cut cruise and thus engine power, resulting in a LURCH.I have experienced this twice...and MacGyver would know this road...when Kannan meets the PCH, there is a long a$$ downhill till you come to a stop at the PCH. Kanann is long enough to full charge the battery...and this is what I suspect happens..when the battery is full, the "extra" grip by the regen component seems to have gone and you only have the more traditional gas-engine brake. You'll know this brake feeling when you cannot charge anymore. Anyway...I had this feeling and as I came to a stop, it lurch a wee bit - unsettling but I figure that was just the brakes-only doing that. I get this same brake feel when going down the longer a$$ Sherwin grade. No lurch really as I was still cruising at 70 mph. At times like this, I wished I had the extra capacity of the Energi...it s*cks to lose all that regen with the battery as full as it gets. Ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbov Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 It's a sudden grab, all right, but from 2 mph to 0. I might never have noticed if not for a practice of releasing the brake as the car comes to a full stop. And the key bit is moisture - not wet, not dry, moist. In this week's cold, it's not present. Once the brakes warm up, it's not present. I only see it when driving a cold car in a condensing environment. Have fun,Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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