valkraider Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) Based on discussion in another thread, I did some experimentation to get some concrete info. Here is what happens with electricity provided to the accessory outlets when you turn off the car (based on my experimentation): USB and the Inverter (the 110v AC plug for the back seat) lose power immediately when the car is shut down. The 12v outlet in the center console up front stays hot for 30 minutes after shutting down the car. The 12v outlet in the cargo area does not turn off, it is always hot. (I am still investigating the 12v inside the arm-rest cubby) Let us know if your experiences differ.... Edited December 31, 2012 by valkraider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurel Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Thanks for being CSI Portland! We will all need the info. you are gathering. Happy New Year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBGrad Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Based on discussion in another thread, I did some experimentation to get some concrete info. Here is what happens with electricity provided to the accessory outlets when you turn off the car (based on my experimentation): USB and the Inverter (the 110v AC plug for the back seat) lose power immediately when the car is shut down.Let us know if your experiences differ.... Yah, it looks like I can put my phone on the USB at any time and it will charge. I just walked down to the car right now and tried it, charge light went on as soon as I plugged it in (one of my 2 USB ports has a USB to phone cable attached at all times). The car hasn't been 'on' since yesterday afternoon, I didn't even have the access fob with me when I tried it just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill-N Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Yah, it looks like I can put my phone on the USB at any time and it will charge. I just walked down to the car right now and tried it, charge light went on as soon as I plugged it in (one of my 2 USB ports has a USB to phone cable attached at all times). The car hasn't been 'on' since yesterday afternoon, I didn't even have the access fob with me when I tried it just now.But you probably open a door. That may make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob999 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 But you probably open a door. That may make a difference. I agree based on my experience. I have found that the 12v electric outlet shuts off after a period of time but that it reactivates when a door is opened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBGrad Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 I agree based on my experience. I have found that the 12v electric outlet shuts off after a period of time but that it reactivates when a door is opened. Yah, that's it. Open door, powerpoint works. Open it a 2nd time, powerpoint shuts off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RachelnLa Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Our cars are smarter than us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z32k12 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 The outlet in the back of my car isn't always hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudenHoggart Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Since I have both a 12 volt charger and, obviously, a 110 volt phone charger, is there a difference in the draw that the two systems make on the car battery? That is, since I have both, is there one I should use as a matter of routine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill-N Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Since I have both a 12 volt charger and, obviously, a 110 volt phone charger, is there a difference in the draw that the two systems make on the car battery? That is, since I have both, is there one I should use as a matter of routine? Interesting question. I guess it depends on which battery powers the 110V outlet as phone charging would have less impact on the big, 480V battery. Perhaps someone with access to the shop manual can help (hint, hint :)). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceemax71 Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 From the shop manual:The DC- AC inverter converts low-voltage (12 volts) DC to 110 volts AC to power a device that uses AC with a rating of less than 150 watts. I would say that there would be a smaller load on the 12 volt system to use the 12 VDC power outlet to charge the phone.There would be some efficiency loss in the conversion of 12VDC to 110VAC. C-MaxSea and Noah Harbinger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill-N Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 From the shop manual:The DC- AC inverter converts low-voltage (12 volts) DC to 110 volts AC to power a device that uses AC with a rating of less than 150 watts. I would say that there would be a smaller load on the 12 volt system to use the 12 VDC power outlet to charge the phone.There would be some efficiency loss in the conversion of 12VDC to 110VAC. There we have it; the definitive answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamalou16201 Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Will the plug in the back seat be able to power a crockpot? Want to use when traveling this Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan McEachern Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 No, even a small crockpot draws 600w. The max sustained wattage of the on-board inverter is 150w. Your best bet is to get the crock pot extra good and warm with your product inside, then wrap it up with multiple layers of towels, and put it in a box, then garbage bag over it all. The product will stay hot for an amazing long time. We have a big cast iron dutch oven that works well for this, I suppose a ceramic brown betty would work too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamalou16201 Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Thanks for the information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan McEachern Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Mamalou, I just looking on-line at some diferent crockpots, and was amazed to see that some only drew 125 watts on the low setting, and one even says 60 watts on the keep warm setting, so I was wrong. Depending on your crock pot, you could very well run it off the on-board inverter, as long as it is under 150 watts. Look on the bottom of the appliance, it should say the amperage needed, and times that by 120 volts to get the wattage. It may say the wattage needed instead, which is even easier. Let me know! The one we have just says 600 watts, but I bet that is only for the high setting, and would be lower on low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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