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Half way through this tank now with my average up to 57.9 mpg up from 56.6 mpg. It would appear all I can get going back and forth between work and home is 56.6 mpg. Just a reminder that even with temps in the low 90's I still have center and bottom Grill Covers on. This weekend I had a few additional trips around town that pushed my average up to 57.9 mpg. I'm going to try to remember to plugin Block and Oil Pan Heaters an hour or two before I go home to see if it helps. :) Paul

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Great Job Scott! :yahoo: :happy feet: :camera: Keep up the good MPG's. This thread has been pretty Quiet lately and We need to remind Members to post their 600 mile+ Tanks on this thread. :) It's been over a year and 9 months since I Posted my record and I have learned some new things sense then that with pretty ideal conditions it is possible on slow (Sight Seeing) Trip to get 1,050 to 1100 miles on a tank of gas. :) I'm working on planning a trip to do it. The Big Question is whether my wife is up for it or not. :shrug: :shift: Paul

I have been doing it for a couple of years. Remember in a Prefect CMAX Hybrid World when you first start out in the morning the ICE WT would be 202*F for Max ICE Efficiency, the less time and gas to get to that temp the better trip FE. :) Up Date: Last couple of days I've been trying to heat up the ICE sooner with not very good results. :drop: My take away from this experiment is that unless you are going 15 miles or more don't use the ICE anymore than you have too. It wastes to much gas heating up the ICE and you don't have the time to make it up in efficiency. I knew there was a reason why I drive like I do. :) Driving on the FWY it would be good to heat up ICE as quickly as possible if you were going 10+ miles, I think you could make up the difference. Paul

Interesting observation this morning, I got 58.7mpg going to work. My garage was 84*F and I had left the ICE Block and Oil Pan Heaters on for 3.5 Hrs, WT was 163*F, I normally leave it on for 1.5hrs with WT of 130*F. SOC was 46% with OT of 81*F, I had to get the ICE going right a way because of traffic, so I wasn't able to do a real good job of Hypermiling. My WT was upto 202*F by the time I got the 7 miles to work, usually I'm around 180*F. I think this points out the importance of getting WT up to 202*F to improve ICE efficiency. My EV was 4.5mi., Regen .5mi. and BKS 99% and SOC 32%. It looks like what CMAXer's have been saying about heating up the ICE as quickly as possible is the best FE thing to do, leave the EV to later. I will try to emphasize this strategy in my future trips to see if there is something to this. :)

Didn't go, spent day at Corning Museum and when went down Hudson looking at Lighthouses. :) Averaged 24mpg's in F150, I need to put Grill Covers on it. LOL. :lol2: Paul

OM has instructions on resetting the oil change reminder. :) It's pretty easy. Paul

That's getting a little complicated for me. Here is what I do know, Smart Gauge reads .1 gal. for 7 miles which means it's not very accurate for short distances. The useful HVB capacity at most is around 30% at full. This means looking at Smart Gauge HVB going from the top to bottom = 30% of total capacity of HVB. So with ScanGaugeII it works out to 32% to 62% SOC and I typically only use between 38-48% SOC. I believe the HVB charges the quickest in that range so the ICE runs the shortest amount of time there. The less time the ICE is running the better your MPG's. :) My current tank : 221.1 mi., EV 148.1 mi.(67%), 56.8 mpg and 3.89 gal. Trip to work with no preheat, no neutral coasting and 53% SOC: 7 mi., EV 4.7 mi.,.6 regen., 57.6 mpg, .1 gal and BKS of 100%. :) Not sure what else you are looking for. BTW I'm having Fun, you too? :) Paul

I use a ScanGaugeII, so no Bluetooth, My 12v voltage has been low for years but it still keeps on working.(136kmi.) :) I would first replace the battery because it's time and FORD is going to recommend it because of how old the battery is. Changing the battery is relatively easy to do and you can save the $100 they will charge you to do it. Remember you will need a 12v jumper batt.or charger to keep power to electronics so you don't lose all the stuff in the memory when disconnecting the 12v batt. If for some reason this doesn't solve the problem at least you have done the first step. :) Paul

WOW! :drop: :sad: :gaah: Paul

Well I drove home last night and was surprised to get 80 mpg and my average went up to 56.9 mpg. :) This morning going to work I started out with usual ICE preheat of an hour and a half , WT140*F with 42% SOC and ended up with 47.5% SOC, 51.4 mpg and my average dropped to 56.6 mpg. :sad: This I consider about average going to work and shows with 42% SOC I get 51.4 mpg and with 50% SOC I got 56 mpg for same 7 mi.trip. The long term will give a better idea on whether FE is improving or not. :) Paul

Well after two days of testing it does look like wheel covers are worth around 2 mpg, but it does point out the importance of SOC and how you use it. Here are few things that affect FE: 1. For ten miles or less the SOC can have a significant impact. 2. Sitting at a traffic signal or McD's drive thru for more than 30 sec starts to use up the HVB. a) When waiting for above the SOC of the HVB goes down slower in Park than in Drive. :drop: b) If you need to stop more than 30 sec. it is better to turn off the car. :doh: 3. Remember outside temp has an effect of 2mpg for every 10*F change, + MPG goes up,- MPG goes down. :shift: 4. Remember if you use Neutral to coast stepping on the breaks doesn't activate regenerative breaking so you need to put it back to Drive before stepping on the brakes to charge the HVB. My first day with everything back on the results were disappointing which I tribute to SOC problems caused by #2a&b and #4. Yesterday I had my act together and I got low 60's. Today going to work I got 56 mpg, normally get 50 mpg, the noticeable difference my SOC when up over night from 44% to 50% so I was able to EV a half a mile before the ICE started on 7 mile trip. Going to Subway for lunch the HVB had done some maintenance from this morning , SOC went from 37% to 30%, Ouch! So the ICE started immediately until I stopped for a signal a block away and SOC moved upto 42% and probably 5 mpg. Turned off car while waiting for the light to change about 4 min.later. Another 3/4's of a mile to Subway and got 56 mpg. and 35 mpg. coming back, not good except my SOC went from 30% to 54%. I'm guessing I might get 70 mpg going home. My lunch trip took my tank average from 56.8 to 56.2 mpg, hoping my trip home will get me back over 57 mpg. :) Paul

You are right! If you have your seat belts on this is a non issue. LOL :) Paul

Me too. LOL :) Paul

That's the usual way. :) It looks like a potential problem down the road, doesn't sound like they have had that many problems for that many vehicles. Paul

I think the problem maybe the Trans also has two Motor/Generators which I believe are high voltage IIRC, just to many problems to deal with. :sad: Paul

Sad it had to go that way when It seemed so obvious it was covered. :sad: I'm glad they finally came to their senses and did the right thing. :) BTW FORD doesn't allow FORD Dealers to disassemble the CVT, they have to send them back to FORD and last I heard they are still replacing them with New Ones. :yahoo: So did you have to drive back and forth from St Louis? Paul

I just reset oil change reminder and went another 10K miles. I figured only used ICE 50% of the time. :) Had my oil checked by BlackStone Labs and they said it was fine, I'm using Mobil 1 so I'm going 30K this time. I have 136k miles so far on my CMAX. Paul

Here is a link to our sight: http://fordcmaxhybridforum.com/topic/4335-remove-rear-seat/with the info you need. You can also look at FORDPARTS.com for parts and prices. Good Luck. :) Paul

Yesterday I got FORD to Cross rotate my tires, didn't feel like doing myself in the heat. I removed wheel covers and rear side wheel well covers so they could take wheels off. This morning I went to a do it yourself car wash and then off to work. I had preheated the ICE like I normally do, but my mpg's were down 2 mpg anyways. :headscratch: I hadn't put the wheel covers back on and as it turns out FORD lowered my tire pressure to 42psi from 50psi. This does imply that the wheel covers are worth 2 mpg and I will see when I go home tonight now that I put them back on. :) Paul

Can you keep track of all the values? How does it compare MPG wise? :) Paul

I'm sorry you are having problems with your 2013 CMAX Hybrid, CMAX's are fairly rare and FORD Dealers don't have alot of experience with them. It is important to remember that this forum is for helping members with problems with their CMAX's and relaying this info to the service adviser. Sometimes this works and sometimes it doesn't, but it is better than nothing. :) Not all FORD Dealers are Created Equal. :sad: With the low miles you have on your CMAX you are better off keeping it and extending the warranty. Otherwise I would shop around to FORD Dealers 100-200 miles away to see if you can get more for your CMAX. IMO :) Paul

My wife makes Banana Walnut Bread from ripe ones, YUM! :) She puts them in the freezer to save them for later. Paul

Just curious does plugging in charge Hybrid portion too? :) Paul