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I recall the BMW i3 operates that way by design. The brake pedal in that car is solely for the physical brake pads and really only needs to be used if regenerative braking can't stop you quickly enough or on an incline.

Or use the link (actually, a link to the post where it is linked) posted earlier in the thread and use it to update your car. There are several of us who have used it and had it work perfectly.

Yes, only the 2013 had the mileage for each trip. Not sure why they removed it but most agree they wish they had it on the non-2013 models.

Yes, the 2016 has Sync 3: http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/brochures/2016/2016+C-MAX+Hybrid.pdf

I suppose it could have something to do with ABS. I have a hard time thinking it might be rust on the brake pads, considering I'd been driving for several minutes before it happened, with several stops and turns prior. I'm thinking it is likely pointless to have it checked out as it appears to have been a one time issue, and as near as I can tell without checking, no codes were generated -- at least no lights came on, even momentarily.

Forgive me for adding this to the thread but it seems it could be a related issue. I'm thinking I've seen it mentioned here before but don't recall when. In any case, while slowing to make a turn recently, the car shuddered as if I had been rear ended -- but the car behind me was far enough back (10 ft or so) that I wasn't actually hit by another car. It really seemed like there was a mild "bang" sound, again like I had been hit, to go with the shuddering. Afterward the car seemed fine, fuel economy doesn't seem to be different, so not quite sure what to think. As I said, I recall someone else here saying they had something similar happen, just wondering if other people have and if we have any idea what might have caused it. Is there something happening that I should be concerned with or something I should check (or have Ford check out)?

Plus 3 Golfer gave the answer; when the battery is full going down a hill it will use the ICE, but have the fuel cut off, as an engine brake.

While this would be true of conventional cars with a fuel injected engine, it isn't true of a hybrid -- so the oil pump not turning could be an issue on a long, gradual hill.

I'll agree that it seems odd Ford didn't offer it as an option on more cars, particularly for how cheap it is to install for cars that have a decent color video screen. To me it seems it should be standard on any car with MFT. On the flip side, I believe it is now the 2017 models that the backup camera is required to be standard equipment -- though it could be automakers have gotten it pushed back yet again.

A minor correction, the HVB is heated/cooled on the Hybrid by cabin air. The Energi can be heated/cooled by outside air, since charging frequently takes place with the car off and sunlight can make the cabin temperature much hotter than the outside temperature.

Interesting thought, particularly with some of the comments on this board about how driving efficiently can upset drivers behind you.I can see other drivers getting really upset sitting behind a self-driving car. Rather odd, how trying to drive properly, legally, and efficiently is often viewed as a bad thing in our society.

I'll be interested to see more about it. My guess is that it will have a similar hybrid system to the Sonata Hybrid; two electric motors and the ICE tied together in a more traditional automatic transmission; though Hyundai may try pairing it with their dual clutch transmission for better city fuel economy (like VWs hybrids). With this being the case, I'm going to guess it will be somewhere around 50 mpg, with better highway mpg than city.

It seems like there are a few jokes in there, such as the hybrids having the sophistication/complexity that other teens aspire to. ;)

I don't see the switch to the LiON battery a major change. Yes, there are questions about the longevity, though so far from what I've seen, the estimations are holding true. While we don't have solid data about how long (in terms of time) the batteries will last, the technology has been around long enough that we are seeing the mileage estimates come true. While many of these vehicles are not Fords (Hyundai started using LiON batteries in their 2011 Sonata Hybrid), the fact is that many fleet vehicles are seeing 300,000 miles out of their car's LiON batteries. It is also worth noting that Hyundai is offering a lifetime hybrid battery warranty on their new Sonata Hybrids (as I recall, they started in 2013), which I think reflects Hyundai's comfort that the batteries were holding up to what their initial testing showed. Beyond the longevity, it makes little difference to the Hybrid system, other than how the system uses the power from the battery and how it charges it. I was tempted to mention TRW pioneering the Hybrid technology Ford and Toyota are using, though decided it wasn't worth mentioning. The fact is, both Ford and Toyota, with the "control systems and power converters," made the TRW system workable and owns enough patents that other manufacturers (such as Honda, VW, and Hyundai) have created their own hybrid systems. The fact is that the C-Max and Fusion both use Ford's third generation of hybrid systems. Yes, they are continually trying to improve things, such as using an electric motor with more power that can operate the car at higher speeds. Granted, at least part of this was driven by the creation of the Energi line, having a plug-in vehicle necessitated the ability for the car to operate at high speeds under battery power. But the fact remains, these changes were evolutionary in nature, built upon the first two generations of hybrid vehicles Ford produced; they were not revolutionary changes. Last, while the C-Max is Ford's first "dedicated" hybrid, the fact remains that even it wasn't much of a change. It is not a "dedicated" hybrid vehicle to Ford, since the same car is produced with both gasoline and diesel variants in Europe -- in fact this current generation of C-Max was a traditional car first before becoming a hybrid, this current body style was introduced in 2010 in Europe. There are signs in our cars that show it is not a true dedicated hybrid, such as the raised load floor in the cargo area. As such, there really isn't nearly as much difference between the Fusion and the C-Max, in terms of the C-Max being a dedicated hybrid, as you are trying to claim.

It may be Ford's first "dedicated hybrid" but it is worth noting it is using the same powertrain as the Ford Fusion Hybrid. It also isn't Ford's first hybrid powertrain; it is the same basic technology Ford used on their previous hybrids, and even roughly the same as Toyota uses (Ford and Toyota use the same basic hybrid technology, cross licensing each others patents) in their hybrids, including the Prius. If anything, it has more to do that modern hybrid powertrains are in their teens, being in production less than two decades. By contrast, the ICE has 150 years of development.

I noticed that a few days ago, forgot to post about it here. Just too bad the car is an Energi. ;)

A woman hit a truck and a van but left the scene of the accident. However, the 911 Assist feature activated, calling 911, providing authorities the time and her location from the GPS. As the sub-title of the article asks, "Whatcha gonna do when your car narcs on you?"

It's also worth noting that the battery indicator on the dash is not the actual battery charge -- zero on the dash indicator is around 30% charge on the battery, 100% on the dash indicator is only about a 70% charge on the battery, at least from what I can recall. You can see the actual battery charge using the OBD2 port and a reader that has the codes for the hybrid battery charge.

I'm thinking you'll get better answers if you ask this on the C-Max Energi forum, since most of us on this forum don't have the Cabin Preconditioning.

Not only have I not received the letter but this recall does not show up on the Ford Owner site for my car. Since, per Etis, my car was manufactured on 2 June 2013, my car should clearly be included. I'd be interested in knowing what is going on with this recall.

While this video is from Canada and doesn't deal with Oil Flushes, I still think it does a good job of showing what occurs at many of those shops. If you search on YouTube, you'll find plenty of other, similar, exposes of these shops -- not to say all are bad but many do suggest services that just aren't needed and a few don't do the service they charge you for. This is another case where you just need to make sure you follow the maintenance schedule found in the owner's manual. As for if you need an oil flush, I will point to the users here who have had the oil tests done after oil changes, and found that the oil they change out is still relatively clean and in great shape. From everything I've seen, particularly with our engines only running a third or half the time (depending on the driving you do) you shouldn't have any issues if you just change the oil as recommended.

I'll second this, it is an issue I had to get used to when I first got my C-Max.

To disagree, a bit, with the posts ahead of mine, only you can decide. As the posts above mine point out, you will lose a pretty fair chunk of cargo space -- particularly the amount of space that can fit under the cargo cover behind the back seats. Only you know what your wants/needs are for cargo capacity, so you'll have to decide if that lack of space is something you care about. Beyond that, the Energi has a slightly different final gear ratio than the Hybrid, so you'll use more energy at freeway speeds. It is believed this is to help protect the electric engine at those higher speeds while in EV mode, since the electric motor does not provide as much power as the ICE. I don't think this is anything to really be concerned about, just something to realize. The Energi has an electric heater so that the car can be heated in EV mode without needing the ICE -- the hybrid requires the ICE for heating. The Energi has an electric transmission pump for cooling while the Hybrid uses a pump attached to the ICE -- not sure this is an issue for the hybrid, but the electric pump is needed on the Energi when running Electric only. Again, likely not anything you need to worry about for buying, just a difference to be aware of. Where the Energi has a huge advantage is in short trips, such as if you are going to a store close to your home on a quick errand or have a short commute. The Energi can do the drive electric only, so long as the battery is charged. By contrast, the hybrid will use mostly gas -- the ICE typically stays on until warm, and on a short drive that can last a good portion of the errand, particularly on cooler days. The Hybrid, on short trips, typically doesn't do much better than a comparable non-hybrid car. OTOH, in hybrid mode, the hybrid will get slightly better fuel economy than the Energi (about 10% or so) because the Energi has a couple of hundred extra pounds in battery. So, again, a lot depends on if you need the storage room. The other consideration is the types of driving you will do (length of commutes and other trips) and how frequently you will charge the battery on an Energi. The last is merely which car you prefer and which you feel is the best deal for you.

Toyota is not being entirely truthful, the 0.24 CoD is tied for the lowest with the Hyundai Sonata Hybrid and the Tesla Model S. I'll also be interested in the difference in fuel economy between the Prius with a LiPo battery, and the base model that still has the older battery, as well as the weight difference.

I think the key line, for me, is: "Due to the car’s lower stance and seating position, getting in and out of the 2016 Toyota Prius hybrid requires a bit more ducking, and more of a controlled fall than a proper sitting motion." I like the ease of entry/exit I get from my C-Max, I don't want a car I have to do a "controlled fall" to get into.