RaPieR Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 image.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgGreat pictures! Can you take a picture of the rear windshield too? I saw an aero piece there on the prototype C-Max I saw a while back and I'm thinking that it would be another add in part that should be easy to install. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbov Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 I also believe I'm seeing a taller, longer seal across the front of the hood. I don't recall it covering the clips for the black grill panel...Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalbeluga Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 First 14 Cmax dropped today. Won't be able to take it out for a drive till next week, don't know if I will be able to tell any difference. Anyway all of the wheel moldings are there, and the back hatch molding, like the Escape. Don't see an a-pillar molding and I see no change in the hood seal however they have made the oil cap smaller. I have to check with my techs and what not but I see no reason these could not be added to the 13 model. Granted you may have to either drill some holes or replace a larger panel. Don't got too carried away with the mods. The cost of the parts will far out weigh any small dollar savings in increased mileage! hybridbear and Jus-A-CMax 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigalpha Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Don't got too carried away with the mods. The cost of the parts will far out weigh any small dollar savings in increased mileage! Unless you drive a lot. ptjones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edsel Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Are the wheels a darker silver or is it just the pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpeNivem Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Don't got too carried away with the mods. The cost of the parts will far out weigh any small dollar savings in increased mileage! Yeah, but it's fun. :) ptjones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptjones Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Don't got too carried away with the mods. The cost of the parts will far out weigh any small dollar savings in increased mileage! I guess some of us like to improve our CMAX's to see what is possible to do, so it's not all about the money, it's the challenge to improve too. My personal goals is to come up improvements to get 70mpg City, 50mpg HWY and over 1,000mi on a tank. I believe these goals are doable. IMO :) Paul hybridbear and John Sparks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wab Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 image.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpg I also believe I'm seeing a taller, longer seal across the front of the hood. I don't recall it covering the clips for the black grill panel...Frank Here they are, John Sparks 2014, wab 2013. Sorry for the 2013 picture quality, I'm breaking in a new camera. wab hybridbear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Sparks Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) I'll get some more pictures. It has the same molding on the rear window as the Escape. I thought I got a picture of it yesterday but I guess not. Here ya go. You guys let me know if you want more. Edited February 28, 2014 by John Sparks hybridbear, jhritz, ScubaDadMiami and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpeNivem Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Any idea how much those rear window pieces might cost? I bet others are interested in the hood seals too, so I might as well ask about those too. But personally, it's the rear aero effects I like, partly because I guess they'll probably help, but mostly because I just plain like 'em. They look cool. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Sparks Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) I don't see any difference in the hood seals, granted I haven't put them side-by-side, maybe I should try that one day when I'm not doing anything here at work but I see no difference. I've looked through the parts catalogue here at work I have checked body>lift gate / hatch / rear glass. I see no reference to the rear glass molding. There's even detailed schematics and it's not there so, I don't know when it will be available. Has to be at some point soon because I'm sure someone's going to have to replace one sooner or later. Edited February 28, 2014 by John Sparks hybridbear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptjones Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 I wonder if the ECAPES ones are the same? :) Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtb9153 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Any idea how much those rear window pieces might cost? I bet others are interested in the hood seals too, so I might as well ask about those too. But personally, it's the rear aero effects I like, partly because I guess they'll probably help, but mostly because I just plain like 'em. They look cool. :)I checked on the rear window deflectors right after I saw them on a 2014 CMax in January. The parts guy had no record of them on his parts list computer screen. Probably part of the rear window assembly which means probably can't buy them without buying the whole glass? But even under rear window assembly there was no mention of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtb9153 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I also believe I'm seeing a taller, longer seal across the front of the hood. I don't recall it covering the clips for the black grill panel...FrankI think your right Frank after repeatedly looking over and over at both pics. The front rubber seal does seem longer and taller. hybridbear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Sparks Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) Yeah. I just compared the the front seal and it is definitely longer. I don't think the rear seal has changed but I guess it wouldn't make much difference. I feel confident these mods can be applied to the 13 model. I would believe that the rear glass molding would be the easiest. I'm almost certain it's just stuck on. What I'm wondering is if the CVT can be reprogrammed to reach the better final drive ratio or if it's a physical change and the 13 isn't capable of it. I mean we are talking constant variable here so it could be possible. Okay so I got to looking and on the Escape it appear to be part of the glass. If any of you want to look around for yourself, you can pull up Fords parts catalogue at: http://www.fordparts.com/Default.aspx Edited March 1, 2014 by John Sparks hybridbear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigalpha Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Soooo, break the rear glass and have it replaced with '14 glass. Are the interiors the same as '13? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtb9153 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 From what I found out at my local Ford Dealer, they have nothing on their computer for 2014 models that even shows the air deflectors. The deflectors aren't shown as being part of the rear glass assembly. The parts guy showed me on their computer screen of the rear glass assembly, the illustration showing the exploded assembly view of all the components in the rear glass and the deflectors are not shown. It might have been that their database was still showing the illustrations and parts bill of material from the 2013 CMax? As far as I could see the '14 interiors are exactly the same as '13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdefny Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Maybe they are thinking of the Energi as a compliance car so they aren't worrying about it if there aren't any complaints. The Hybrid is supposed to challenge the Prius and they need to have their act together for that. The C-Max is a better car but the mileage is not in the same class and Prius reliability has set a very high mark. hybridbear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaPieR Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 The rear deflectors look like they are just adhesived on the rear windshield. Any pics on what they look like from the inside? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hybridbear Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Thanks for the pics. This is fascinating. John Sparks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salsaguy Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Jus did u get your cmax back after the accident and fixed up?what toysbeen gone too long so send me the link t catch up on your "return to glory " story :) Its been much cooler here and even with all the "toys" on Maxine, it's jus barely 56-58 MPG per day now, WAY DOWN than my 63MPG I was scoring in the summer. Amazing what lower temps can do to destroy MPG and hate to think what Maxine will be doing without her toys ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salsaguy Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Jus, how did you do this weekend in So Cal when we had these crazy heavy rain storms? I heard the valley got hit even harder than near me in North OC Its been really dry here in SoCal, we jus had some rain today but the temps have been pretty mild - and in some instance, feels like summer with mid 80s to low 90s. We hardly get any rain here anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salsaguy Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 wont matter much since the Sync is being scrapped by Ford and will be replaced with a Blackberry port of QNX software, which iswhats in the Audi and other German cars. It bothers me that Sync with MFT doesn't support Applink - something I only looked into and learned recently - so if that counts as a Sync complaint, then there it is.But other than that, Sync has never bothered me. I love it. In fact, Sync is one of the reasons I bought this car over a Camry Hybrid. Well, Sync and considerably more storage, so not really a fair fight, but still. It's the nicest music/nav system I've ever used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salsaguy Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) Im surprised Ford didnt swap out the wheels on the 2014 CMax to a more aero dynamic face to get better mpgs, like the wheels on the Jetta Hybrid. I was at my VW dealer to service my Passat and he said that is why they look like they do, to help with better laminar flow as the wheel holes/gaps mess up the drag a lot. Im sure you have seen hypermiller cars where they put lexan clear covers over the wheels or cover them up completely. very ugly but it works. these are a good compromise of being a FLAT surface with only minimal openings. Im sure they are harder to clean in some ways though... you can see a pix of them here: http://tinyurl.com/k5knvpxor here:http://tinyurl.com/lbc4vev image.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpg Edited March 2, 2014 by salsaguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptjones Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Maybe they are thinking of the Energi as a compliance car so they aren't worrying about it if there aren't any complaints. The Hybrid is supposed to challenge the Prius and they need to have their act together for that. The C-Max is a better car but the mileage is not in the same class and Prius reliability has set a very high mark.I think I've proved you actually can get Prius MPG's with some effort at it. :happy feet: And the CMAX weighs in at 600lbs more too. :) Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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